1. #27781
    We still have 9.2.5 which (probably) gonna add something to the ending

  2. #27782
    all shadowlands cinematics are terrible

  3. #27783
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    ??? He just explicitly explained his motive. He found the check and balance system of the six/seven cosmic forces implemented by the First Ones to be flawed and unsustainable, and so he was going to rewrite the universe into a monolithic autocracy where he, as the ruler of death, had complete control of everything.
    That was plainly established, yes. The issue is that it doesn't really do much with his death other than "what is to come", which I presume is just the result of the perceived flaw he wanted to fix.

  4. #27784
    Quote Originally Posted by Cherry123 View Post
    all shadowlands cinematics are terrible
    Hey now. The ending of Revendreth was pretty cool.

    That's it, that's all I got.

  5. #27785
    My god the expansion wasn’t just cut but the story is non existent

    This is pathetic and the worst part is it can be used to say the one leak is true

  6. #27786
    Well that was rather meh. I hope we see some 9.2.5 stuff soon.

  7. #27787
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Cool so impending Even Bigger Cosmic Bullshit.

    Light-Void for 10.0 I guess?
    I suppose I could see a sensible stage for an invasion from the lens of a normal, classical Azeroth invasion. If Light – Void is not 11.0 instead, I could see a new crusade on Azeroth under Turalyon culminating in a Lightbound invasion, which would be for the purposes of sterilizing the Void corruption in Azeroth, and there's already indication that Yogg-Saron is active again (especially with this new kickstarter, but it may only prove to be the same as Sargeras' sword near C'Thun—a moot point).

  8. #27788
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    That was plainly established, yes. The issue is that it doesn't really do much with his death other than "what is to come", which I presume is just the result of the perceived flaw he wanted to fix.
    I also assume that, but it seems like a bunch of people somehow misconstrued it as being "there's some other bigger villain that's going to show up", when it's pretty clear all he meant was that (exactly as we've already seen) the cosmic forces are actively trying to tear the whole universe apart in their vying for power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    That was plainly established, yes. The issue is that it doesn't really do much with his death other than "what is to come", which I presume is just the result of the perceived flaw he wanted to fix.
    Knowing Blizz I bet the "flaw" is some high-concept kinda-meta thing like a "Universe built on War cannot survive."
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  10. #27790
    Quote Originally Posted by The-Shan View Post
    "Dont worry everyone, We'll zoom out even more and make everything we've already developed even more irrelevant! Welcome to Dragonball!"
    The hilarious thing is that the sole fan of Zovaal on here seems to get excited for exactly that, having this be a mindless escalation of power levels and bombastic threats with no soul.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I also assume that, but it seems like a bunch of people somehow misconstrued it as being "there's some other bigger villain that's going to show up", when it's pretty clear all he meant was that (exactly as we've already seen) the cosmic forces are actively trying to tear the whole universe apart in their vying for power.
    "What is to come" infers a bigger threat.

    Either way, not confident in what is allegedly to be Steve's "baby."

  11. #27791
    So cosmos...
    I guess it's gonna be a voidlord expansion.

  12. #27792
    Now that was pure quality. The future is looking bright for this game

  13. #27793
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I also assume that, but it seems like a bunch of people somehow misconstrued it as being "there's some other bigger villain that's going to show up", when it's pretty clear all he meant was that (exactly as we've already seen) the cosmic forces are actively trying to tear the whole universe apart in their vying for power.
    That's what I'd figure based on context, but it is also true that there's a continuous sequence of increasingly-powerful villains, which has probably soured people to the idea and made them convinced that there will have to be a bigger, badder villain. I can see this as a problem, but I also am more inclined to hope Blizzard has developed somehow from their past mistakes and will actually make a decent plot out of this coming war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    Where?

    Having traveled to the Shadowlands, Gallywix was able to gain access into Tazavesh, the Veiled Market. He can subsequently be found within the Myza's Oasis, where he seems to be in a meeting with the broker negotiators of Cartel Xy. He is accompanied by Hired Scoundrels, and despite officially no longer leader of the Bilgewater Cartel, he still appears with the title Trade Prince
    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Jastor_Gallywix

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    Not really since they brought the Goblins back to Kezan, just like they said they would in BFA. So now that that’s done, revealing Undermine is back on the table.


    I doubt it's the end of WoW.
    Secondly, no one said it's 10.0.
    Fighting the literal void is the end of WoW. And again, I’m talking about 10.0.

    Currently part of the other specs. You do know i'm for an Earth tanking spec, right? You don't need to convince me.
    But, just because someone wants it, doesn't mean it has priority over others.
    Again, the point is that if Blizzard was planning to add tank specs to existing classes, Shaman would be on top of the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    I suppose I could see a sensible stage for an invasion from the lens of a normal, classical Azeroth invasion. If Light – Void is not 11.0 instead, I could see a new crusade on Azeroth under Turalyon culminating in a Lightbound invasion, which would be for the purposes of sterilizing the Void corruption in Azeroth, and there's already indication that Yogg-Saron is active again (especially with this new kickstarter, but it may only prove to be the same as Sargeras' sword near C'Thun—a moot point).
    Much as I'd hate to say it, 10.0 has high odds of looking like BFA 2 right now. Just swap Sylvanas and Turalyon.

    And throw in Y'rel because no way they'll make the faction war front and center so Turalyon will need third party troops when most of the Alliance comes to their senses in the pre-event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Knowing Blizz I bet the "flaw" is some high-concept kinda-meta thing like a "Universe built on War cannot survive."
    Realistically, when you're dealing with forces that aren't binary good-and-evil systems, then a system built on conflict isn't a bad one. It would just be a physical equivalent of Hegel's philosophy, with the underlying sublation that results from every conflict being better than the preceding non-sublated concepts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Much as I'd hate to say it, 10.0 has high odds of looking like BFA 2 right now. Just swap Sylvanas and Turalyon.

    And throw in Y'rel because no way they'll make the faction war front and center so Turalyon will need third party troops when most of the Alliance comes to their senses in the pre-event.
    I'm honestly hoping that we get to side with Turalyon. I never got the weird "Light bad" stuff they're trying to shove down our throats—oh noes! The very embodiment of good and benevolence might be using slightly extreme methods against the Axis-esque faction of imperialistic war criminals on some backwater time-warped planet? Clearly, they must the bad guyerinos!

  17. #27797
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlands-is-fake View Post
    How the hell is the Lich King cinematic when Arthas died so good, and this is so bad? It lasted 4+ minutes, had character development, emotion, great music, sweet voice work, and a satisfying conclusion ON TOP OF teasing a potential future problem.

    This is just a big meh.
    Because the WotLK ending was building off years of buildup to a character we've seen basically from birth, slowly losing his humanity as he descends deeper into villainy while keeping a strong core. Then several expansions where he was set up as a big baddie we would have to defeat, leasing to a long awaited ending.

    The Jailer was introduced this expansion, got forcibly crowbarred into the plot, never got proper characterization or had his motivations established.
    Then finally he went straight for the big endgame and we have no clue what this character is about beyond being evil.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  18. #27798
    I did say to not expect much, if anything.

  19. #27799
    Can someone give me a quick TL;DR on the Jailer cinematics? Anything interesting happened or was it as lame as Reddit suggests?
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  20. #27800
    What's really sad is that the Jailer cinematic was better than the N'zoth one. In comparing the build up for the two characters.

    But the forge of souls intro was cool and I do not hate the Jailer ending cinematic. I actually got more information from it then I expected to.

    Also, to me anyway, the "A Cosmos divided will not survive what is to come" implies a force outside of the 6 known forces, and people shouldn't be shocked at that as a possibility. That is one thing they have actively starting to build up and we could accurately guess we know would be happening eventually. Not that I'm gunna like it.

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