Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Syegfryed]

"Everything is Danuser's fault!"
"I can't believe they're saying everything is Afrasiabi's fault!"

i commend the tentative of strawman, but it wasn't good enough.

[Teriz]

Was it ever explained why the Soul Forge was built? Like why would the Titans build a forge to extract Azeroth's soul? Is it to destroy her if she becomes too corrupted?

[Hitei]

i commend the tentative of strawman, but it wasn't good enough.

Not a strawman, you literally tried to blame Danuser for a three expansion arc in the same post where you pointed out the absurdity of blaming a single person for story mistakes.

[Teriz]

The end of BFA and the SL story were actually a vision of a potential future thrown at us by N'Zoth who isn't dead at all. He has used the time we were "dreaming" to free C'Thun/Yogg and take over Azeroth.

Yep. That makes much more sense. Now let's get back to something better Steve.

I have a feeling that 10.0 is largely going to pick up where BFA left off.

[Syegfryed]

Not a strawman, you literally tried to blame Danuser for a three expansion arc in the same post where you pointed out the absurdity of blaming a single person for story mistakes.

Again, i didn't, i said the writing team and him, because he was aprt of the writing team, read again.

What happen in shadowlands is entirely his fault, but, previous "rumors" claimed he was just trying to fix afrasiabi mistakes.

[Hitei]

Again, i didn't, i said the writing team and him, because he was aprt of the writing team, read again.

What happen in shadowlands is entirely his fault, but, previous "rumors" claimed he was just trying to fix afrasiabi mistakes.

That's not what you typed though?

without him making legion-bfa-shadowlands sylvanas trilogy

Him is a singular pronoun. Did you mean to type "them"? Also, lmao

What happen in shadowlands is entirely his fault

I appreciate you doubling down and proving my exact point. Thank you.

[huth]

Again, i didn't, i said the writing team and him, because he was aprt of the writing team, read again.

What happen in shadowlands is entirely his fault, but, previous "rumors" claimed he was just trying to fix afrasiabi mistakes.

No, you didn't. You said "a writing team without danuser", which implies that you're blaming everything on him.

[Raetary]

Was it ever explained why the Soul Forge was built? Like why would the Titans build a forge to extract Azeroth's soul? Is it to destroy her if she becomes too corrupted?

The Forge of Souls was built by Arthas and the scourge.
It's not a titan facility.

[Arcinatoss]

No, you didn't. You said "a writing team without danuser", which implies that you're blaming everything on him.

Steve's narrative lead on WoW so if shit sucks then he's to blame, makes sense, no?

[KainneAbsolute]

Iam playing this patch, does anyone know if the characters have any dialogue after the raid? Uther, Jaina, Sylvanas???

[Triceron]

Him is a singular pronoun. Did you mean to type "them"? Also, lmao.

Everything the team writes has to go through his approval. Everything that is being written goes through him. So yes, it's his responsibility. While the writing overall may be a collaborative effort, the vision holder is the lead narrative designer.

[Archmage Xaxxas]

Steve "I used to dream of being a famous game designer" Danuser ...

Careful what you wish for

[Teriz]

The Forge of Souls was built by Arthas and the scourge.
It's not a titan facility.

Ah got it. So is the story now that Zovaal made Arthas and the scourge build it specifically to suck out Azeroth's soul?

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Steve "I used to dream of being a famous game designer" Danuser ...

Careful what you wish for

I think people are being too hard on Danuser. WoW's story has never been amazing. It was mostly the gameplay that made it a cut above everything else. The problem really is that the end game systems suck, the lack of end level abilities suck, and the lack of new races and classes suck as well.

And Yogg Saron's blood was used to build it...

Oh ffs......

[KainneAbsolute]

Ah got it. So is the story now that Zovaal made Arthas and the scourge build it specifically to suck out Azeroth's soul?

And Yogg Saron's blood was used to build it...

[huth]

Ah got it. So is the story now that Zovaal made Arthas and the scourge build it specifically to suck out Azeroth's soul?

His modus operandi seems more opportunistic and pragmatic. So it's more likely him just making use of something Arthas built for a completely different reason.

[ro9ue]

Steve "I used to dream of being a famous game designer" Danuser ...

Careful what you wish for

Too much hate for one guy. This level of failure required a team.

[Archmage Xaxxas]

Oof this quote of his could be applied to Shadowlands humorously.

“I don’t have many talents in life, but chief among them is being able to blend disparate nonsense into something a tiny group of people will find vaguely interesting.”

Happen to like a bit less vaguely interesting and a lot more awesomely interesting things in our Warcraft. Just me? lol

I think people are being too hard on Danuser.

Too much hate for one guy. This level of failure required a team.

and yea I wasn't so much trying to add more to the pile, but making light of the abundance of 'negative attention' he's getting atm.

My biggest red flag with the guy is just that he even speaks like that in his blogs, twitter etc.
Even being on West Coast Canada, if you say things like that where I live you'd get the strangest looks. Probably a local thing I guess.

[pacotaco]

Void Lords are part of the divided cosmos that according to Jailer needs to unite.

"What is to come" is something even bigger and badder than the Void Lords.

My guess is that he wanted to dominate the cosmos to work like a single mind (his mind) in the hopes that way the Coming Threath could be stopped.
Also, it's hinted to be the 7th Force outside the know reality, so we probably next expansions is us uniting the different Forces to fight back.

[Catastrophy349]

My guess is that he wanted to dominate the cosmos to work like a single mind (his mind) in the hopes that way the Coming Threath could be stopped.
Also, it's hinted to be the 7th Force outside the know reality, so we probably next expansions is us uniting the different Forces to fight back.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-Cosmic-Forces How about that?

[Vakir]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-Cosmic-Forces How about that?

Already debunked when it says he left a rift or whatever. No indication.