Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Catastrophy349]

https://twitter.com/SteveDanuser/sta...Z9hO1VOKUFmXuQ Steve Danuser's thoughts on the ending of Shadowlands and "what is to come."

[Varodoc]

Have people here already forgotten that the Ren'dorei's racial passive is "ENTROPIC Embrace" and it gives them a unique Void transformation?

Either Entropy is part of the broad domain of the Void or the Ren'dorei, on top of the Void they have mastered (which in itself is clearly the most lethal of the 6 forces), also wield the most primordial and most dangerous of the forces, the force that dooms all others unless they unite, Entropy.

I'm fine with either option honestly.

[Nyel]

Most likely to have the pre orders via 9.2.5

Only makes sense when 9.2.5 contains something that makes pre-orders worth. I doubt it at this point.

[Raetary]

It's probably Entropy.

Devourers would be the lowest level form of it

Unlikely, Blizzard baked the concept of Entropy into Fel and Void magic.

[Shinrael]

For the Pale, that was the Void.

Whoops my bad there. Minus the pale orcs part

[Catastrophy349]

https://twitter.com/SteveDanuser/sta...Z9hO1VOKUFmXuQ Steve Danuser's thoughts on the ending of Shadowlands and "what is to come."

With him saying that AFTER the Jailer's defeat, I hope we get something from either that Epilogue chapter or at-least something before the next expansion launches to connect stuff.

[username993720]

Have people here already forgotten that the Ren'dorei's racial passive is "ENTROPIC Embrace" and it gives them a unique Void transformation?

Either Entropy is part of the broad domain of the Void or the Ren'dorei, on top of the Void they have mastered (which in itself is clearly the most lethal of the 6 forces), also wield the most primordial and most dangerous of the forces, the force that dooms all others unless they unite, Entropy.

I'm fine with either option honestly.

You do realize entropy is part of Fel too, right?
It's literally chaos, or randomness, in any given system.

[Syegfryed]

https://twitter.com/SteveDanuser/sta...Z9hO1VOKUFmXuQ Steve Danuser's thoughts on the ending of Shadowlands and "what is to come."

If it seems like I say “wait and see” a lot, it’s because it’s difficult to talk in specificity about upcoming story points without spoilers.

No Steve, if you said "wait and see" a lot is because you are doing a terrible job in the story, "multi expansion narrative" isn't working and isn't satisfying to play, especially when you tease yet again another big bad evil guy when we are ending the current one.

[Catastrophy349]

No Steve, if you said "wait and see" a lot is because you are doing a terrible job in the story, "multi expansion narrative" isn't working and isn't satisfying to play, especially when you tease yet again another big bad evil guy when we are ending the current one.

Yeah, who knows anymore. Lol.

[Nyel]

https://twitter.com/SteveDanuser/sta...Z9hO1VOKUFmXuQ Steve Danuser's thoughts on the ending of Shadowlands and "what is to come."

Sick and tired of this trope. "Wait and see, everything will make sense!"

[Varodoc]

You do realize entropy is part of Fel too, right?
It's literally chaos, or randomness, in any given system.

Sure, but I don't care about Fel or any of its users, so why would I mention them? I lack an incentive.

[Nyel]

Why do all these "villains" that try to save us from the big baddie never tell us what or who that big ominous mysterious baddie is? It's pretty laughable at this point, all this gaslighting, but being as vague as possible.

[Syegfryed]

You know he's literally only been lead writer for one expansion right? Half that depending on when everything went down internally..

only one expansion and he is saying "wait and see" a lot, kinda weird right? no wonder why its in shadowlands that the lore reach the lowest point, he took what happened in legion and bfa and throw into the dumpster

Regardless of him being the lead only in shadowlands, he was already a high rank designer before in BfA, you can see him doing Q&A instead of Ion in some interviews.

[uikolertekopoku]

Its downgrading the Cosmic Forces.

They set up for something outside the Planes and „Reality, like

The First Ones

Or adding „Cosmic Forces“

A „unknown 7th“ Force…

They just keep adding possibilities for Future Expansions.

Now that we know that a divided Cosmos cant stand against whats to come suggests something NEW no way he is talking about The Void.

The Void is part of the Cosmos.

Now Face The unknown Forces from beyond the Planes or the Counterpart’s of the First Ones.

[Syegfryed]

Pretty sure SL isnt WoD so no the lore hasnt hit its lowest point. Its been better sure but it's really not that different from their usual tiny brain storytelling.

Wod was 10x better than shadowlands in terms of lore and storytelling, so yeah, lowest point was BfA and now is shadowlands. Multidimension and time travel bs made more sense than those planes of the death, and at least Draenor was a cool word

"draenor is free" is a better final than yet another "wait and see" from a failed villain.

[Nyel]

Pretty sure SL isnt WoD so no the lore hasnt hit its lowest point. Its been better sure but it's really not that different from their usual tiny brain storytelling.

What's wrong with WoD lore besides the time-traveling stuff? WoD has done less damage to Warcraft lore than Shadowlands exactly because it's alternate universe stuff. As soon as Shadowlands lore is treated as "serious" and real it becomes highly problematic. WoD just contained one of many universes, but Shadowlands is representing "death" everywhere.

[ClassicPeon]

What's wrong with WoD lore besides the time-traveling stuff? WoD has done less damage to Warcraft lore than Shadowlands exactly because it's alternate universe stuff. As soon as Shadowlands lore is treated as "serious" and real it becomes highly problematic. WoD just contained one of many universes, but Shadowlands is representing "death" everywhere.

I know quite a few people who completely stopped following lore in WoD because they didnt want to invest the time to understand who was a WoD copy and who wasnt.

I honestly think that did much more damage then an expansion like SL that is just going to be forgotten in a few years(much like bfa).

[Makorus]

Breaking News: People are now trying to say that WoD had good writing to put Shadowlands down.

What's next, WoD actually had excellent content outside of raiding and Shadowlands is way way worse than it?

[Soulwind]

Unlikely, Blizzard baked the concept of Entropy into Fel and Void magic.

The old writers did. But the new writers have this amazing new idea about Entropy being an almost unstoppable outside force that threatens all life in the universe, and only by fighting together we stand a chance against it.

[crusadernero]

Pretty sure SL isnt WoD so no the lore hasnt hit its lowest point. Its been better sure but it's really not that different from their usual tiny brain storytelling.

WoD was a shit xpac but is miles ahead of SL now. Even the time travelling shite in WoD is better than this. At the very least we got lots of cool characters in WoD.