Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Syegfryed]

Sure you can. Doesn't change anything though. Please tell me about the Scourge on Azeroth and the fate of Bolvar. Do you think they'll resolve that?

Still pisses me off what they did with Bolvar this expansion, they said for everyone to hear he was going to be a important and key character in this expansion, feature him left and right in the marketing, and he is simple ignored the rest of the expansion, especially bullshit after they ruining him in the cinematic, guess his time was cut short to have more Sylvanus and Anduin time.

They also ended all the possibility of new death knights appearing, so i guess any new race will not be able to be one, i guess they didn't think that far ahead while destroying the helm and making a golden tiara, the scourge is also supposed to be rampant across the world without a lich king, but i guess they forgot about that too.

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Pelagos' story is not over.

The Golden One claims a vacant throne. The crown of Light will bring only Darkness.

Pelagos is likely to become a villain and we'll go back to Shadowlands eventually to put him down like his predecessor.

We are not going back to shadowlands for at least a decade and a half lol.

[Super Dickmann]

Pelagos' story is not over.

The Golden One claims a vacant throne. The crown of Light will bring only Darkness.

Pelagos is likely to become a villain and we'll go back to Shadowlands eventually to put him down like his predecessor.

This won't happen, but if we're ever so unlucky that it does, here's to hoping there's a better VA next time, like Microsoft Sam.

[Triceron]

Pelagos' story is not over.

The Golden One claims a vacant throne. The crown of Light will bring only Darkness.

Pelagos is likely to become a villain and we'll go back to Shadowlands eventually to put him down like his predecessor.

Could also mean Turalyon. More likely him than Pelagos.

[Varodoc]

This won't happen, but if we're ever so unlucky that it does, here's to hoping there's a better VA next time, like Microsoft Sam.

It will happen. Unfortunately I have read and reread the whisper many times, and my mind cannot fathom any other candidate other than Pelagos. Truly I can't think of anyone else who could fit the whisper.

Especially after Ion stated that, if they ever explore Alliance drama, they'll focus on Genn Greymane King of the Worgen, and not Turalyon

[Syegfryed]

Could also mean Turalyon. More likely him than Pelagos.

Even so because pelagos isn't claiming any throne.

[Skildar]

What's with the Scourge?

What's with the Lich King / Bolvar?

What's with the Souls that have been misjudged?

What happens with the Maw?

What's with the Covenants?

What's with Kael'thas, Draka, Vashj, Uther?

Wrapping up its plot by killing the big baddie doesn't solve the underlying issues of which Shadowlands has a lot.

play the quests and you will find the answers...

[Kiivar86]

What's with Kael'thas, Draka, Vashj, Uther?

What about them? Kael'thas will likely continue with his service in Revendreth (we know that it can take centuries), Draka and Vashj are ensconced with Maldraxxus and Uther's back with the Kyrian.

What else needs to be done about them?

[Syegfryed]

Classic mop when?!?

[Sondrelk]

Well yeah because you cant wrap your head around Alleria or Turalyon going insane

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2025 right? If we figure 1 1/2 -2 years for each classic era.

You really have to wonder with the WoW Classic releases. It started getting diminishing return immediately with TBC. WotLK is probably going to see a decent spike, bit what about after that? I guess Season of Mastery for TBC and WotLK?

[Foolicious]

Pelagos' story is not over.

The Golden One claims a vacant throne. The crown of Light will bring only Darkness.

Pelagos is likely to become a villain and we'll go back to Shadowlands eventually to put him down like his predecessor.

Even if its about pelagos doesn't mean he becomes a villain. Magni was a pawn of the old gods and wasn't a villain.

[Arcinatoss]

I worry that the playerbase would get too dilluted if they go with a classic version of every expansion. Every cata and up private server are extremely low pop while the vanilla-wotlk servers have thousands of players on them.

[Nyel]

Pelagos' story is not over.

The Golden One claims a vacant throne. The crown of Light will bring only Darkness.

Pelagos is likely to become a villain and we'll go back to Shadowlands eventually to put him down like his predecessor.

This still could be edit: Turalyon, sorry, not Uther. I hope we'll never, ever get back into the Shadowlands. I'd rather visit Draenor again than.

[Lahis]

[Nyel]

play the quests and you will find the answers...

They don't answer anything. Blizzard made Shadowlands SO HUGE that some quests saying "everything is fine now" don't fix the apparent plot holes and cracks in the lore. It worked in WoD because nothing mattered. But Shadowlands is the entire afterlife of Warcraft. You can't introduce that in one expansion and gloss over all of the missing plots and glaring plot holes with a nice little "they lived happily ever after".

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Still pisses me off what they did with Bolvar this expansion, they said for everyone to hear he was going to be a important and key character in this expansion, feature him left and right in the marketing, and he is simple ignored the rest of the expansion, especially bullshit after they ruining him in the cinematic, guess his time was cut short to have more Sylvanus and Anduin time.

I mean Bolvar was even in the expansion announcement cinematic and he was the most pathetic and useless NPC in the entire expansion.

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What about them? Kael'thas will likely continue with his service in Revendreth (we know that it can take centuries), Draka and Vashj are ensconced with Maldraxxus and Uther's back with the Kyrian.

What else needs to be done about them?

They are household names. Mostly beloved by fans. Were they just brought back for some flashy quests and interactions and that's about it? It just feels wrong on so many levels.

[Sondrelk]

I worry that the playerbase would get too dilluted if they go with a classic version of every expansion. Every cata and up private server are extremely low pop while the vanilla-wotlk servers have thousands of players on them.

It's more a question of why WotLK should get a classic version, but other beloved expansions like MoP shouldn't.
The easy solution is that you didn't need Classic beyond Vanilla, but now that genie is out of the bag.

[Dracullus]

It's more a question of why WotLK should get a classic version, but other beloved expansions like MoP shouldn't.
The easy solution is that you didn't need Classic beyond Vanilla, but now that genie is out of the bag.

Because Blizzard, Activision and Microsoft are known for hating easy money, duh.

[Super Dickmann]

It's more a question of why WotLK should get a classic version, but other beloved expansions like MoP shouldn't.
The easy solution is that you didn't need Classic beyond Vanilla, but now that genie is out of the bag.

Cataclysm is the biggest stumbling block for the classic re-releases. Its endgame content is simply not very good and there's less of it than there is of Shadowlands whereas its revamp feature is completely available in the retail game. Mists is a lot more distinct in class design and daily work and has content, but lacks the nostalgia bucks Wrath can bring in.

They are household names. Mostly beloved by fans. Were they just brought back for some flashy quests and interactions and that's about it? It just feels wrong on so many levels.

Last time they got brought in it was as loot pinatas in one-off raids, I've no idea why you write as though we're in some unprecedented territory either in terms of leaving loose plot threads, of which there are very few or in terms of character beats. They got brought in to tell their specific storybeats and give you an idea of what they'll be doing going forward. Their arcs were resolved. Vashj avenged her house and became Margrave. Kael overcame his hubris and went on the way to becoming a better person, etc. etc. You can argue about the quality of those stories, I personally don't care about either all that much, but they've got very clear start and end points.

[Grimbold21]

We should go back to Defias level conspiracies, or how Onyxia was puppetering SW's nobility around.

[Vakir]

This won't happen, but if we're ever so unlucky that it does, here's to hoping there's a better VA next time, like Microsoft Sam.

"Golly gee, Mr. Stark Kleia, I sure am conflicted and timid. W-wait for me, uwu!"

In any event, he's not becoming a villain for extremely apparent reasons that we aren't allowed to talk about.

The golden one whisper can be applied to any number of things that have happened or are yet to happen because constructing your story around vague portents is a dead end and reinforces the community to get invested in the shit mystery box style that got us here. Then everyone is confused and upset why they keep doing the "wait and see" when those same people keep buying into it.

[Super Dickmann]

The golden one whisper can be applied to any number of things that have happened or are yet to happen because constructing your story around vague portents is a dead end and reinforces the community to get invested in the shit mystery box style that got us here. Then everyone is confused and upset why they keep doing the "wait and see" when those same people keep buying into it.

J.J.Abrams's Ted Talk and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.