Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Makorus]

Look, don't get me wrong, personally, I think the Empire of Dragons logo is fake, but why are we believing Bagina saying that they were the one who faked the logo without any proof whatsoever?

Did I miss something, lol?

I am probably one of the biggest opponents of EoD, but throwing it out the window just because someone said they faked it doesn't mean anything without any proof that they did do it.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Look, don't get me wrong, personally, I think the Empire of Dragons logo is fake, but why are we believing Bagina saying that they were the one who faked the logo without any proof whatsoever?

Did I miss something, lol?

I am probably one of the biggest opponents of EoD, but throwing it out the window just because someone said they faked it doesn't mean anything without any proof that they did do it.

They have provided a HD logo and a gif of the process of how they did it. Bagina did that logo, period.

:P

Here it is for reference.

[Raetary]

Did I miss something, lol?

Yes.

:P

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[Makorus]

Okay, well that's okay then. I skimmed through some pages, but most of it was just the same old drivel about store mounts and what not.

Carry on!

[Fahrad Wagner]

So do we all agree the only plausible leak left is AoG? Or am I missing anything?

[Chain Chungus]

Look, don't get me wrong, personally, I think the Empire of Dragons logo is fake, but why are we believing Bagina saying that they were the one who faked the logo without any proof whatsoever?

Did I miss something, lol?

I am probably one of the biggest opponents of EoD, but throwing it out the window just because someone said they faked it doesn't mean anything without any proof that they did do it.

They could have easily faked the animated gif. Worked backwards erasing shit and whatnot.

[Sondrelk]

They have provided a HD logo and a gif of the process of how they did it. Bagina did that logo, period.



Here it is for reference.

That is some damn fine trolling he did there. I am not ashamed to say I was willing to believe it was real.
(Not that I necessarily believed it, because let's face it, the odds of finding the real leak is almost nonexistent.)

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So do we all agree the only plausible leak left is AoG? Or am I missing anything?

I still refuse to believe that Blizzard would allow such a cumbersome title through, or for that matter that they would just copy the name Galapagos in stark contrast to previous habits.

[Yossarian]

So do we all agree the only plausible leak left is AoG? Or am I missing anything?

therewillbedragons has been debunked?

to me, it was the only one plausible, Galakaros is gone unfortunately

[Makorus]

therewillbedragons has been debunked?

to me, it was the only one plausible, Galakaros is gone unfortunately

therewillbedragons confirmed he made it up. The crossfaction stuff lining up was just pure luck.

[Fahrad Wagner]

That is some damn fine trolling he did there. I am not ashamed to say I was willing to believe it was real.
(Not that I necessarily believed it, because let's face it, the odds of finding the real leak is almost nonexistent.)

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I still refuse to believe that Blizzard would allow such a cumbersome title through, or for that matter that they would just copy the name Galapagos in stark contrast to previous habits.

Stark contrast to previous habits? I mean, they're usually original-ish when it comes to places names (emphasis on the ISH), but they already straight out copied stuff from the scandinavian mythology so... Galakaros is not unthinkable. Especially if the inspiration for the place already was that exotic Galapagos vibes and someone noticed that Galakrond and Galapagos share a few letters... I don't know, for me the name doesn't sound that bad. Is it a model of originality and creativity? Clearly not. But I don't think it's terrible (although, I'm not a native English speaker, so maybe there is some aspect I don't perceive here, but for me it's rather catchy and easy to say).

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therewillbedragons has been debunked?

to me, it was the only one plausible, Galakaros is gone unfortunately

AH! I missed that information! So back to square one

[Yossarian]

therewillbedragons confirmed he made it up. The crossfaction stuff lining up was just pure luck.

oh thank you, just yesterday night and four pages ago, I'm reading it now

what's left? nothing?

[Revamp Man]

So I missed a few pages, let me guess: Teriz arguing that Tinker is the only viable class to be added?

No

After EoD was debunked there was a short discussion about the next expansion and hints with the cat mount and the link between expansions and final mounts

Then the talk about bards

Both situations got the Teriz treatment

1. Mechanical dragon that had no link or part of a pattern outside of the panda monk pet in wrath and also mentioning the mechanical dragon pet from the anniversary and that the dragon is the true last mount and the only reason I didn’t agree was because it was mechanical and the demon soul placed in the steamscale makes it dragon lore because the dragon soul was originally named the demon soul

2. Bards don’t have a wc3 or HotS rep

[Makorus]

oh thank you, just yesterday night and four pages ago, I'm reading it now

what's left? nothing?

Why is Ashes debunked?

About the store mount thing:

People latch on to the store mounts that have a connection to future expansions without considering that the vast majority of storemounts DO NOT have connections to future expansions

[Teriz]

Which is exactly what I pointed out lol

You are retroactively applying the Pandaren Monk pet as a hint an expansion that came YEARS later. That was not a pet hinting to a future expansion theme, that is correlation between unrelated release of store items and expansion. There were numerous pets and mounts released after the Pandaren Monk pet that had nothing to hint at Mists or an Asian themed expansion.

Yeah, because Blizzard tends to not release a ton of hints to their future content. That said, the Pandaren Monk pet was the first time the term monk was used in reference to Pandaren martial arts. In addition, the pet came with a letter from Chen Stormstout, and this was in WotLK, after Cataclysm had been announced.

The Steamscale is also a store-based item released after the announcement of the next expansion. If it's following the same trajectory as the Pandaren Monk pet, then it is hinting at the expansion following Shadowlands. Given that we've gotten so many dragon and goblin/gnome hints since BFA, it makes sense.

The ones that hinted MoP was the Heart of Azeroth mount and pet, which were known about shortly before Mists announcement.

Incorrect. The Heart of the Aspects was announced in November of 2011, and released in February of 2012. Mists of Pandaria was announced at the 2011 BlizzCon that took place in October of that year.

[Super Dickmann]

I am all for Tinkers. Otherwise some players would have to ask another 10 years for it.

This is the best pro-tinker argument. Other arguments need not apply. Half-measures got us void elves instead of high elves, only to basically turn them into high elves anyway. Don't make the same mistake.

[Yossarian]

Why is Ashes debunked?

warcraft mobile grimoire
announcement date
overwatch news

all that we could check until now was wrong, I don't give it anymore credit

[Teriz]

This exactly.



I respectfully disagree, I feel you're presenting Pandaria and the Pandaren as if they were a well established race within the game before MoP: they're not. They were an April's Fool joke in WC3 which became a popular meme/reference amongst the players, mainly due to the (awesome) art of Samwise Didier, and the only main reference we really had was Brewmaster Chen Stormstout. Oh and we knew he came from a mysterious land called Pandaria (some even argued it wasn't canon at that time). That's it. We had nothing about Pandaria itself, the pandaren culture, the Monk class, the Mogu, the Sha, the Celestials, the Mistweavers, all of that was literally whipped out of thin air and the only concrete element was the introduction of Chen in WC3 as a funny brewmaster (and he was never referred to as monk).

We had additional lore about Pandaria, Pandaren, and Brewmasters from the WoW RPG books that came out following WC3. Blizzard used material from those books to help flesh out the lore in Mists of Pandaria. You can read some of that lore on this page when you scroll down to RPG;

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Pandaren
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Brewmaster

[Hyrja]

Scales of Time leak was the most genuine looking leak so far. And the name is great

[Super Dickmann]

I remind by the way that while Empire of Dragons was debunked, the true EoD - Explosion of Dragons remains undefeated.

[Makorus]

We had additional lore about Pandaria, Pandaren, and Brewmasters from the WoW RPG books that came out following WC3. Blizzard used material from those books to help flesh out the lore in Mists of Pandaria. You can read some of that lore on this page when you scroll down to RPG;

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Pandaren
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Brewmaster

I read through that and I don't see how that is relevant at all? Nothing from the RPG really seemed to have carried over, other than obvious tropes like "Brewmasters use brews to fight" or "they are peaceful monks because they are inspired by Asian culture".