Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Teriz]

So because they are both mechanical dragons they are related in terms of design

This is why I mentioned lore and why I mentioned that the pet isn’t from the store so it has no place in that discussion

They use the same skin, and the TMD is the companion pet to the mount.

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It’s not relevant to my point you’re right, and on top of that the RPG source was (and still is) considered not a canon source. So that wasn’t canon at the time, and the only things from there which became canon were the ones seen in MoP; and they became canon through MoP, and not through an acknowledgment of the RPG source (it pains me to say so, as the RPG has a lot of good unused material, but at the end of the day if Blizzard doesn’t consider it canon, it’s not).

Uh, the RPG was canon until around 2011. And it is relevant to your point because multiple portions of the RPG were brought over into WoW for the Pandaren, Pandaria, and the Brewmaster. Thus your initial argument that the only lore we had for the Monk class for MoP was from the WC3 hero unit isn't true. In fact, Blizzard continues to pull stuff from the RPG into WoW. One recent example was Mogul Razdunk, the boss from The MotherLODE. He was from the RPG and didn't show up until BFA.

[Lady Atia]

I doubt so.

BC offered the best raiding experience.

Casuals and hard core all could enjoy it at different pace and for a long while 4 raids at ocne were relevant content.

TBC had the worst lore and the raiding "experience" was quite bad compared to WotLK.

Legion > MoP > WotLK = Shadowlands > Cataclysm > WoD > BfA > TBC

[Revamp Man]

They use the same skin, and the TMD is the companion pet to the mount.

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Uh, the RPG was canon until around 2011. And it is relevant to your point because multiple portions of the RPG were brought over into WoW for the Pandaren, Pandaria, and the Brewmaster. Thus your initial argument that the only lore we had for the Monk class for MoP was from the WC3 hero unit isn't true. In fact, Blizzard continues to pull stuff from the RPG into WoW. One recent example was Mogul Razdunk, the boss from The MotherLODE. He was from the RPG and didn't show up until BFA.

Well the MC core hound mount and Mc corehound pup are related so next expansion is firelands 2.0

[Pheraz]

The big theme will eventually be the dragon theme. (I think)
Last time we had the dragon theme (cataclysm) we had a dragon villain and dragon NPC heroes.

Maybe, since they haven't been super creative in creating a new threat with the jailor, which is just the bald, lame and stronger version of the lich king, we soon have a uber-deathwing, too.

I saw someone calling the dragon theme in WoW lame here, maybe I am alone but the cata trailer is until now my fav wow trailer :shrug:

[Teriz]

Well the MC core hound mount and Mc corehound pup are related so next expansion is firelands 2.0

Doubtful since those items are nearly a decade old at this point.

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Lol, wut? I'm not the one claiming the steamscale is related to the next expansion, so why would I do the same? I'm not claiming the next expansion to be goblin related at all

Uh, I mean that if the next expansion IS related to the steamscale I doubt you would admit that you're wrong.

Just like you didn't admit you were wrong about the Heart of Aspects mount.

[Kiria]

In german it says "vielversprechend", which translates to "promising"

In English it says "Bright", a Light and Void expansion could be interesting.

I am all for Tinkers. Otherwise some players would have to ask another 10 years for it.

And what about the players who have been asking for Necromancers and Dark Rangers or other numerous classes over the years?, NOT everyone even likes the thought of a Tinker.

[TriHard]

Has there been anything new at all going on the last week? Or are we all just speculating until April?

[Makorus]

You really think they could say Sylverian Dreamer is from a realm of Shadowlands called Ardenweald before the expansion was announced?

Of course they can't do that, so they write something else for the store page.

I mean, instead of saying "It comes from a magical dreamworld", they could write something that kind of hints at the Shadowlands? I am not saying they should say "Yep, this mount hails from the ARDENWEALD REALM in the SHADOWLANDS".

You can't really say that "Oh yeah, that mount totally predicted this expansion" when nothing about the mount even references the mount, and actually mentions a completely different place. It's only a hint in hindsight. Just like every storemount is, other than the Manasaber, which is the only one that kind of references the future events in some way.

[Raetary]

Watch when the cat mount is part of a Red Dragon zone.

[Revamp Man]

The big theme will eventually be the dragon theme.
Last time we had the dragon theme (cataclysm) we had a dragon villain and dragon NPC heroes.

Maybe, since they haven't been super creative in creating a new threat with the jailor, which is just the bald, lame and stronger version of the lich king, we soon have a uber-deathwing, too.

I saw someone calling the dragon theme in WoW lame here, maybe I am alone but the cata trailer is until now my fav wow trailer :shrug:

Just saying we have 3 dragon baddies
1. Chromatus who is currently dead but his body is “sealed” and he had healing capabilities
2. Galakrond who is a skeleton but his remains are powerful enough to corrupt things close to it…also a datamined map without his remains there
3. Moruzond and Nozdormu has been absent for a while and was the only living aspect absent from 8.3

Now you could easily argue that the rift in icecrown has had some effect on the two threats currently in northrend

[huth]

In English it says "Bright", a Light and Void expansion could be interesting.

The point is the German version cannot be read that way at all. So unless they bungled the translation, you're likely just taking a metaphor to mean more than it does.

[Revamp Man]

I mean, instead of saying "It comes from a magical dreamworld", they could write something that kind of hints at the Shadowlands? I am not saying they should say "Yep, this mount hails from the ARDENWEALD REALM in the SHADOWLANDS".

You can't really say that "Oh yeah, that mount totally predicted this expansion" when nothing about the mount even references the mount, and actually mentions a completely different place. It's only a hint in hindsight. Just like every storemount is, other than the Manasaber, which is the only one that kind of references the future events in some way.

Wasn’t the shadowlands originally just a reflection of the dream in the lore?

[Raetary]

It's just "the future is bright", you guys are reading too much into it.

[Kiria]

The point is the German version cannot be read that way at all. So unless they bungled the translation, you're likely just taking a metaphor to mean more than it does.

You're probably right.

Although the monochrome map is intriguing.

[Varodoc]

Just saying we have 3 dragon baddies
1. Chromatus who is currently dead but his body is “sealed” and he had healing capabilities
2. Galakrond who is a skeleton but his remains are powerful enough to corrupt things close to it…also a datamined map without his remains there
3. Moruzond and Nozdormu has been absent for a while and was the only living aspect absent from 8.3

Now you could easily argue that the rift in icecrown has had some effect on the two threats currently in northrend

You also forgot Vexiona and the Dragon Cult of the Void.

In fact it will be revealed that, much like Wrathion the Black Emperor, the Vexiona we fought in Ny'alotha was actually a Faceless one disguising itself as the Void matriarch. A diversion distracting the heroes from the REAL Vexiona, who is MIA and is leading the Cult of the Void and the Void Dragonflight.

Vexiona is in a prime position to usher in the supremacy of the Void and the whispers in the Dragon Isles. What better way to strike, than when the champions are busy fighting in another dimension entirely?

[Teriz]

Has there been anything new at all going on the last week? Or are we all just speculating until April?

Pretty much speculating. All of the major leaks have been thoroughly debunked.

[Makorus]

Wasn’t the shadowlands originally just a reflection of the dream in the lore?

I mean, before Shadowlands, Shadowlands was nothing really. The lore was really really sparse, and at most, it was the opposite of the Emerald Dream.

Anyway, the Sylverian Dreamer wasn't even connected to the Emerald Dream either, because it references a different kind of dream magic.

"An artist in the magical city of Dalaran fell asleep on her brush, and dreamed of painting a beautiful feathered dragon. Her artwork lept from the page, and when she awoke, she found it sleeping gently beside her."

[Teriz]

And what about the players who have been asking for Necromancers and Dark Rangers or other numerous classes over the years?, NOT everyone even likes the thought of a Tinker.

Honestly if I wanted to play a Necromancer, I would have a great deal of fun with Warlocks and Death Knights. As for Dark Rangers, Forsaken or Void Elf MM Hunters or BM Hunters with undead pets should scratch that itch quite well. You could even obtain Sylvanas' Quiver and Bow for icing on the top.

[Makorus]

Honestly if I wanted to play a Necromancer, I would have a great deal of fun with Warlocks and Death Knights. As for Dark Rangers, Forsaken or Void Elf MM Hunters or BM Hunters with undead pets should scratch that itch quite well.

If you want to play Tinker, play a Survival Hunter with Robot Pets and Engineering as a profession.

[Kiria]

Honestly if I wanted to play a Necromancer, I would have a great deal of fun with Warlocks and Death Knights. As for Dark Rangers, Forsaken or Void Elf MM Hunters or BM Hunters with undead pets should scratch that itch quite well.

JUST STOP IT!!!

You are being an absolute hypocrite with these statements, JUST STOP!!!

As other have mentioned if you want to be a Tinker, Gnomes get mechanical pets and you can use gun aswell as engineering as a profession just stop with your hypocritical bullshit it's tiring.