Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Revamp Man]

WoW 10.0 will have Soulslike combat revamp confirmed. So THIS is what Towelliee was talking about when he said 10.0 was going to be "different"...

Or this is one of like 10 mentions of the sun since 8.3

The whisper about the bright surface
The newsletter saying bright
The SUNwell having that void thing
The SUN warmed feline

[Polybius]

you are right
and now, because it happened once, a logo "leak" is the most common fake thing

there was also a written leak btw, even not fully accurate

my favorite leak remains MoP one
someone found out a trademark, and someone else posted a picture with what seemed a very far pandaren in an asian landscape some day before blizzcon

I remember some even thought it was software for kids, similar to children's books based on mature entertainment.

[Soulwind]

Or this is one of like 10 mentions of the sun since 8.3

The whisper about the bright surface
The newsletter saying bright
The SUNwell having that void thing
The SUN warmed feline

That's it. We're not going to the Dragon Isles. We're not going to the Undermine. We're not even going to one of the moons. We're going to the sun!

[Revamp Man]

That's it. We're not going to the Dragon Isles. We're not going to the Undermine. We're not even going to one of the moons. We're going to the sun!

So a working theory is that Elune has a fellow member of the life pantheon who is the sun representative that Tauren worship and they will play a big part

We do have the genesaurs and everything from WoD that was plant based

Also what force better to balance out the aftermath of death

[Dracullus]

Peak raiding was WoD and everyone who disagrees didn't raid in WoD.

BRF was the best tuned raid with the most fun fights. Yes, it was better than Ulduar, because most fights in Ulduar are snorefests and people like to circlejerk the setting rather than the actual raid encounters.

Don't know if best tuned, but for sure it's raid with best layout, design and theme. You raid orc stronghold, not run around weird shit. Sadly it came so soon after 14 month orc tier.

I like raids taking place in single area in general - like Nighthold, Uldir or Nathria.

[Thenatural]

Peak raiding was WoD and everyone who disagrees didn't raid in WoD.

BRF was the best tuned raid with the most fun fights..

It was especially fun to be a hunter and cheese stuff with aspect of the fox.

BRF had better encounters, but it's really hard to beat how absolutely epic ulduar felt. It was just mind-blowing for it's time. It visually holds up today (lots of WotLK stuff does, actually).

[huth]

That's it. We're not going to the Dragon Isles. We're not going to the Undermine. We're not even going to one of the moons. We're going to the sun!

Well, that's going to be a rather short expansion.

[Soulwind]

Well, that's going to be a rather short expansion.

Nah, see, we'll go at night. The First Ones/Naaru/Danuser won't be expecting that!

[Kiivar86]

I sometimes wish people weren't so gullible. Can we have 1 terrible fake leak without a few people going "actually, not too bad..." please?

You were here for the leadup to Shadowlands, don't you recall how people responded to every single "leak" with "This is it, this is the one!"

Some people just wanna believe.

[Nyel]

Some days offline and apparently new "leaks" happened? Can someone give me a tl;dr?

[Kiria]

Can someone answer a question I have?

After Zovaal is defeated we see the bridge between the Shadowlands and our world close, how are we meant to get back home? because surely that bridge closing would also cut off all portals due to them being well... completely different realms.

[ercarp]

Can someone answer a question I have?

After Zovaal is defeated we see the bridge between the Shadowlands and our world close, how are we meant to get back home? because surely that bridge closing would also cut off all portals due to them being well... completely different realms.

I'm not going to make any excuses for Danuser's shitty writing, but I feel like you're making a pretty big assumption here. Is there any precedent for why this should be the case? However, even if that were the case, I'm sure the Eternal Ones or some other powerful entity within the Shadowlands can help yeet us back to Azeroth using their Plot Magic™ as thanks for helping them defeat the Big Bald. It's not an issue in the slightest.

[Izalla]

Some days offline and apparently new "leaks" happened? Can someone give me a tl;dr?

More like leaks unhappened. I don't think we've seen anything that was more than an obvious fake. EoD logo and therewillbedragons leaks were admitted as faked.

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Can someone answer a question I have?

After Zovaal is defeated we see the bridge between the Shadowlands and our world close, how are we meant to get back home? because surely that bridge closing would also cut off all portals due to them being well... completely different realms.

We were able to get back from Draenor even after we destroyed the portal, but years later the connection had waned to where we couldn't access it anymore without bronze dragon magic. I would assume that even though things are closed up there is still a lasting, lingering connection in the same way, even ignoring that denizens of the Shadowlands such as Kyrian have always been able to pass through into our realm.

[Lahis]

Can someone answer a question I have?

After Zovaal is defeated we see the bridge between the Shadowlands and our world close, how are we meant to get back home? because surely that bridge closing would also cut off all portals due to them being well... completely different realms.

Kyrian's literal job is to travel ourside of Shadowlands to collect souls and Necrolords, including former mortal souls, have traveled outside of Shadowlands to fight Legion and other forces.

[Kiria]

Kyrian's literal job is to travel ourside of Shadowlands to collect souls and Necrolords, including former mortal souls, have traveled outside of Shadowlands to fight Legion and other forces.

Fair enough reasonable answers I just find the whole thing fully odd considering we are alive mortals in the realm of the dead so to speak... some plot holes with this expansion.

[Kiivar86]

The Helm of Domination's breaking caused the rift, and pieces of it allowed further passage through. Presumably the reforged Crown of Wills will retain that ability.

[Lahis]

Fair enough reasonable answers I just find the whole thing fully odd considering we are alive mortals in the realm of the dead so to speak... some plot holes with this expansion.

All the more reason to get us out. Kyrian, Necrolords and Brokers have means to open portals from Shadowlands to other realms so they can get us out from there.

[pacotaco]

Fair enough reasonable answers I just find the whole thing fully odd considering we are alive mortals in the realm of the dead so to speak... some plot holes with this expansion.

The way I see it, it's like old mythology: the lands of the dead are literal lands of the world. Mortals could physicaly go, but they are forbiden (hence Cerberus). This is sort of the same.
Wwe also see other Forces opening portals to the Shadowlands, so it doesn't seem to be even hard to do.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

And nope, Shadowlands is great. Haters gonna hate. People just dislike the setting or the lore or Covenants before they pulled the ripcord but that's ok. Contentwise atleast Shadowlands is great right now.

... you actually think Shadowlands is great, content-wise? Then why is there a larger proportion of the forums complaining about it and why are search trends and engagement reducing?

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I'm not going to make any excuses for Danuser's shitty writing, but I feel like you're making a pretty big assumption here. Is there any precedent for why this should be the case? However, even if that were the case, I'm sure the Eternal Ones or some other powerful entity within the Shadowlands can help yeet us back to Azeroth using their Plot Magic™ as thanks for helping them defeat the Big Bald. It's not an issue in the slightest.

Let's also not forget that, somehow, traveling from one point to another through the Twisting Nether works to get you to the Shadowlands. Somehow.

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I think it's potentially a (kinda fart-sniffing) meta commentary by the developers.

The First Ones are creator deities utilizing geometric patterns, calculated order, and sound to create the spark of life that is the disparate cosmic forces.

Kind of like the people making the stories and world(s) of Warcraft.

Can't be. The First Ones apparently make good art.

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To be honest that puts it into a bit of a different perspective. The denizens of SL that were created by the first ones aren't just programmed robots.
They are created based off geometry/math (Logic) and Music (Creativity), basically the 2 spheres of the brain. They brought these together to create the spark of life, not just have brainwashed robots that follow programming.

I always took the geometry to be an underlying thing, more akin to the function of the universe itself—the geometry thing in particular seems to relate to theology, similar to the "watch and the watchmaker" thing. Of course, they seem to accidentally construe that as "God makes robots in a big factory".

[Akta]

i was watching the OW2 update, posted today. They said the pvp will be testable this week and a new hero is gonna be available Sojourn. There was a leak ( ashes of something ) saying that OW2 would have be testable mid march with new heros , one of them being sojorun. Am i wrong?