Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Shadochi]

While I totally agree that they nailed the marketing for WoD and Legion, I am not sure about BfA. Was it that good? I really cannot remember. Or do you mean the Warbringer videos as part of the marketing etc.? If so yes, those did a great job in introducing us to crucial parts of the expansion. I just checked them again and Jaina has more views tham Azshara and Sylvanas combined (granted, the Jaina Warbringer was fantastic).

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Oh, curious to see what @Marlamin has to say about this!

He talked about it last night a bit.
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...8#post53652518

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...5#post53652695

[ercarp]

Btw dunno if the green parrot guy here already noticed but on wow tools the Galakrond bones in the dragonblight map has gone missing this update.

Oh, curious to see what @Marlamin has to say about this!

He already did, a few pages ago:

Pretty much. The map itself isn't insignificant, but the fact it was "updated" pretty much is. Format updates, changes to files the map uses or some dev randomly opening it could all trigger updates. It's just another thing that got blown out of proportion by Reddit.

[Lahis]

My question with the whole Sylvanas / Jailer meeting is how did he circumvent the Arbiter in the first place?

Or was it just an illusion because he had part of her soul?

Or was she really destined for the Maw because the Arbiter knew what she would do. In which case, why didn't the Arbiter try to warn anyone what Zovaal was doing?

Doing suicide on top of ICC which already was Zovaal's conduit on Azeroth probably gave him chance to step in before Kyrians got Sylvana's soul.

Atleast that's how I believe Blizz will handwave this issue.

[Shadochi]

Gonna do a wild guess and say the book will retcon a lot of stuff since she jumped from icecrown, legion interaction with helya and her pact, all bfa and shadowlands, trying to make some sense in a storyline, since the public clearly didn't like it, basically a damage control situation, explaining how we were wrong all along, and how things rly are.

Hopefully the don't retcon Garrosh calling her a bitch. Make that a huge point after ICC that brought her to do what she did, WoW 10.0: Sylvanas, new class Sylvanas Justice Warrior (SJW)

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Do anyone know when we see a Vendor'd PTR how long it usually takes before it goes up?

[ercarp]

Hopefully the don't retcon Garrosh calling her a bitch. Make that a huge point after ICC that brought her to do what she did, WoW 10.0: Sylvanas, new class Sylvanas Justice Warrior (SJW)

I thought they already retconned that, no? Didn't they update the voice line a while back to remove the b-word?

[Syegfryed]

Hopefully the don't retcon Garrosh calling her a bitch. Make that a huge point after ICC that brought her to do what she did, WoW 10.0: Sylvanas, new class Sylvanas Justice Warrior (SJW)

they basically did that already with the removal of the dialogue.

But i don't doubt if they make an entire new narrative of how everyone, including garrosh, was to blame about her actions, everyone else push her to do this, she is not the one to blame

[deftualjuice]

Surprised this one wasn't posted yet. They say it's from some discord group.

Empire of Dragons really sounds like someone put "Black Empire" and "Dragon Isles" together, which is probably why the logo is all voidy, but the name sounds odd. Imagine creating such a good logo and then picking such a nonsense name.

[Shadochi]

I thought they already retconned that, no? Didn't they update the voice line a while back to remove the b-word?

they basically did that already with the removal of the dialogue.

Yes but i refuse to acknowledge it because that one quest left some of the most impact on me to remember from the revamped leveling zones, and I did it only once since I usually play Ally.

But i don't doubt if they make an entire new narrative of how everyone, including garrosh, was to blame about her actions, everyone else push her to do this, she is not the one to blame

That is what I fear, turn Sylvanas more into the victim and completely ignore all the victims to what she did.

[Varolyn]

If that logo is fake, then it's a really good fake since it does look very polished and has some unique designs to it, rather than the typical re-color of a past expansion logo with some assets swapped around that many fake logos have.

I almost want to believe that it's a real logo, but the expansion name is really dumb. But then again, I thought "Warlords of Draenor" and "Battle For Azeroth" were dumb names when they first leaked, and they ended up being true...

[Shadochi]

If that logo is fake, then it's a really good fake since it does look very polished and has some unique designs to it, rather than the typical re-color of a past expansion logo with some assets swapped around that many fake logos have.

I almost want to believe that it's a real logo, but the expansion name is really dumb. But then again, I thought "Warlords of Draenor" and "Battle For Azeroth" were dumb names when they first leaked, and they ended up being true...

Yes it is fake, @bagina came out and admitted to creating it. If you check their post history you will se a gif of the process

[KOUNTERPARTS]

So now I'm waiting for a highly detailed, thoroughly convincing, fan-made logo but with the stupidest/silliest/most ridiculous expansion name like 'World of Warcraft: Sylvanaclysm' or 'World of Warcraft: Mall Cop' or some shit.

[Nyel]

Ah, thank you guys for the clarification!

[Catastrophy349]

So now I'm waiting for a highly detailed, thoroughly convincing, fan-made logo but with the stupidest/silliest/most ridiculous expansion name like 'World of Warcraft: Sylvanaclysm' or 'World of Warcraft: Mall Cop' or some shit.

Hold my beer

[Dioporco]

He talked about it last night a bit.
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...8#post53652518

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...5#post53652695

RIP my theory that Galakrond and Devourers are tied.


At least my idea that Devourers are the "external 7th force" that keeps thing in balance, by emh consuming, so opposite to the continuous motus of creation that is the universe but something went wrong, could still be :,(

[Lady Atia]

RIP my theory that Galakrond and Devourers are tied.


At least my idea that Devourers are the "external 7th force" that keeps thing in balance, by emh consuming, so opposite to the continuous motus of creation that is the universe but something went wrong, could still be :,(

This weeks campaign quest implied that the Devourers are part of the cosmos, basically there to delete old files but something went wrong. I have the feeling the "external 7th force" is more akin to the Tyranids - coming from the outer cosmos, not something that already exists.

On another topic, Rygelon says that "there is no universe in which you prevail" would that mean that there is in fact a wider warcraft multiverse as opposed to simple timelines that vanish if they don't interact with the prime timeline?

[Izalla]

New confirmed expansion leak from friend, O'ros. O'ros tell me on Exodar, he confirm it is such.

World of Warcraft: O'ros

Feature: Level 120 cap. O'ros want to double it up again for good measure, make level same as before. It's no worries.

Class combination:

Draenei with knife
Draenei with pistol

Zones: Exodar

System: O'ros coins. Create coin and give to O'ros, provider for Draenei.

Plot: O'ros have big plans, but not tell anybody on Exodar. I consult O'ros. O'ros say he not such good fan of Shedowlands and bring hero back, so hero come back.

Hero go to Exodar to find O'ros. Hero will grind for coin around Exodar, maybe ride Elekk for fun. Once coins are ready, give to O'ros. This is the end.

This is the best leak yet and I love this leak.

[Catastrophy349]

World of Warcraft: Rise of Galakrond

No Draenei with knives nor pistols

[Polybius]

they basically did that already with the removal of the dialogue.

But i don't doubt if they make an entire new narrative of how everyone, including garrosh, was to blame about her actions, everyone else push her to do this, she is not the one to blame

This trope is becoming tiresome in many narratives, especially in current day with zero accountability and shift of blame.

[Soulwind]

World of Warcraft: Rise of Galakrond

No Draenei with knives nor pistols

Please, you can try and deny Tinkers, but we KNOW Draenei with pistols are coming.