Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

They keep trying to hint that things are changing, I don't buy it at all. Weird to not see a statement or anything. I guess, it is just to get another free win.

[Dracullus]

Welp, Blizz is permanently opening Mage Tower in a week.

Silly Blizzard, we all knew it will happen sooner or later.

Or silly me, cause Blizzard knew from day 1 and just moved it to post 9.2 launch.

[Sondrelk]

Welp, Blizz is permanently opening Mage Tower in a week.

As much as this is a clear improvement in terms of accessibility, I cannot help but feel this is just evidence Blizzard doesnt want to make Timewalking better.
The Mage Tower being updated for Legion Timewalking is probably the best single thing added to Timewalking beyond extra themed mounts, and detaching it from the actual Legion Timewalking just makes me think Blizzard is going to keep neglecting Timewalking.

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

I just read the "Primus is the Jailer" theory and something kind of made me think. When speaking of Allied races of the Shadowlands races, most people can picture the Fauns, Kyrians, and Venthyr becoming playable, but there's difficulty in think of a possibility of Maldraxxus' denizens being playable. What if there's a reason for that? What if this theory is true and down the road we get an Allied Race quest where we recruit those three races after finding out the Primus is not who he said he was? It would certainly play out a lot like the Mag'Har questline where we realize we left things to go sideways and then promptly drop the thread while we go fight...I dunno, void kobolds or something?

Just something I thought about after realizing that the possibility of a Maldraxxus playable race would either be skeleton undead or rotting Kul Tiran.

[huth]

Bastion was leaked roughly a week before but didn't get a lot of attention the first few days. Then the bolvar art and a banner on blizzcon with the bastion art was leaked two days before.
So it was in direct preparation for blizzcon. Chances are even less likely this time cause at blizzcon there are a lot of outsiders who can leak it during preparation. Most likely is that blizzard leaks it again when updating some website or shop a few days prior to the announcement.

We also had no idea what it was initially.

[Edlarel]

As much as this is a clear improvement in terms of accessibility, I cannot help but feel this is just evidence Blizzard doesnt want to make Timewalking better.
The Mage Tower being updated for Legion Timewalking is probably the best single thing added to Timewalking beyond extra themed mounts, and detaching it from the actual Legion Timewalking just makes me think Blizzard is going to keep neglecting Timewalking.

I'm going to take the opposite stance. I think this shows that they're willing to extend timewalking beyond the pseudo-monthly voyage to older content dungeons. Having reasons to go back to those zones would be awesome, and they could even breathe life back into them with events like this. Evergreen content across WoW has been much desired by many for some time, particularly those of us who enjoy solo content as well as group/mmo content.

[Khaza-R]

As much as this is a clear improvement in terms of accessibility, I cannot help but feel this is just evidence Blizzard doesnt want to make Timewalking better.
The Mage Tower being updated for Legion Timewalking is probably the best single thing added to Timewalking beyond extra themed mounts, and detaching it from the actual Legion Timewalking just makes me think Blizzard is going to keep neglecting Timewalking.

Fair point, but I think MT was incompatible with a rotational event that only pops twice a year to begin with. I don't really take it as a signal they are going to neglect TW.

I'll be interested to see what they add with BfA TW in 10.X

[Sondrelk]

Fair point, but I think MT was incompatible with a rotational event that only pops twice a year to begin with. I don't really take it as a signal they are going to neglect TW.

I'll be interested to see what they add with BfA TW in 10.X

I disagree. I think it only felt incompatible because there was nothing comparable in the other timewalking events that could really compare to the Mage Tower and M+.
Had each Timewalking event had its own unique identity and challenge that required knowledge of the expansion, then I think the Mage Tower being time-limited wouldnt have been as much a problem. The event being limited to one week might have been though, so Timewalking should have worked on a separate rotation to the rest of the events running concurrently after each other.

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I'm going to take the opposite stance. I think this shows that they're willing to extend timewalking beyond the pseudo-monthly voyage to older content dungeons. Having reasons to go back to those zones would be awesome, and they could even breathe life back into them with events like this. Evergreen content across WoW has been much desired by many for some time, particularly those of us who enjoy solo content as well as group/mmo content.

The reason I think this is a bit of a crippling blow to Timewalking events is that by removing this unique aspect to Legion Timewalking they are tacitly stating that having unique events at all is problematic.
They would have to either reverse this decision in the future (always a popular move), or add something else to the Legion timewalking rotation to compensate for what it "lost" with Mage Tower being decoupled from it.

[Ersula]

what if Elunaria is not a planet, but a place on the Dragon isles?
what if Elunaria is Azeroth, and Elune is Azeroth? as in, she was wounded while trying to learn all the forces?

Because it was had a bunch of moons.

[Catastrophy349]

Chapter 7 tomorrow. Hopefully, Chapter 8 with the Sylvanas novel the following week. 4 weeks until the announcement! Echo and Liquid BOTH on Jailer Mythic. Let's go!!!! HYPE train!

[Hyrja]

just got a 200mb update for retail

[Nemah]

Since it's a speculation thread, I thought I'd share this since I hadn't seen it mentioned. Apologies if it was mentioned.

Could be a commentary by itself on how poor the story line has been - where there's room for this level of exposition due to the gaps in the story as it stands. I don't know that I have this level of faith in the story architecture that we've seen to produce what's in the link....but I wouldn't be mad at all if this came to pass.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/what-if...ulation-326318

The TLDR is speculative of the Primus being the so called architect of all of the things that have happened from WCIII and beyond, using domination magic - with it's flaws - dread lords, and so on to gain access to Zereth Mortis, and now using us to figure out how to exploit it to do ____.

[Makabreska]

As much as this is a clear improvement in terms of accessibility, I cannot help but feel this is just evidence Blizzard doesnt want to make Timewalking better.
The Mage Tower being updated for Legion Timewalking is probably the best single thing added to Timewalking beyond extra themed mounts, and detaching it from the actual Legion Timewalking just makes me think Blizzard is going to keep neglecting Timewalking.

Or maybe it's just to make people stop buying Tower boosts due to how rare this event is? Last ban wave was about accounts being piloted to do Tower, and if it is perma opened then there is no time pressure to do it right now.

[Nightshade711]

We also had no idea what it was initially.

I remember people memeing that the Bastion leak saying it looked like Minas Tirith and people saying it had to be fake because they picked apart the logo saying it just looked like the Legion logo recolored.
But to be fair this wasn't that long after the "8.3 Stormwind raid and warfront" leak with the green ghost ships in SW harbor so they even picked apart the leaked image of Lich King Bolvar.

[jzhbee]

I remember people memeing that the Bastion leak saying it looked like Minas Tirith and people saying it had to be fake because they picked apart the logo saying it just looked like the Legion logo recolored.
But to be fair this wasn't that long after the "8.3 Stormwind raid and warfront" leak with the green ghost ships in SW harbor so they even picked apart the leaked image of Lich King Bolvar.

I think what was even funnier is when people took the Bolvar image to pieces and were like "this image is obviously altered if you look at its subpixel positioning (I'm paraphrasing because I don't know digital image theory, sue me)" and then it was real.

[Vasoka]

So Lore is leaving the WoW team (the CM with the frizzy hair). Perhaps just as well, he hasn't really felt excited about the game or the company in a long while judging by his social media posts.

But one thing that caught my eye - in his farewell tweet he mentioned that he can't wait to see everyone's reactions to the news on April 19th. Doesn't have to mean much but kind of feels like he's suggesting it's big.

https://twitter.com/devolore/status/1506035256075247617

Nice, more of the OGs leaving, soon there'll be just the diversity hires left. Boy oh boy I can't wait for 10.0 indeed.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

So Lore is leaving the WoW team (the CM with the frizzy hair). Perhaps just as well, he hasn't really felt excited about the game or the company in a long while judging by his social media posts.

But one thing that caught my eye - in his farewell tweet he mentioned that he can't wait to see everyone's reactions to the news on April 19th. Doesn't have to mean much but kind of feels like he's suggesting it's big.

https://twitter.com/devolore/status/1506035256075247617

I don't get the impression he's suggesting or implying something particularly "big" with the April announcement, that will get reactions he's looking forward to seeing.


This reads to me as the generic "doing the honors" for the company and leaving on good terms with a positive message. Doing the gentlemenly (uh oh) exit.

[ChairmanKaga]

Nice, more of the OGs leaving,

When was Lore an OG?

[Sondrelk]

I remember people memeing that the Bastion leak saying it looked like Minas Tirith and people saying it had to be fake because they picked apart the logo saying it just looked like the Legion logo recolored.
But to be fair this wasn't that long after the "8.3 Stormwind raid and warfront" leak with the green ghost ships in SW harbor so they even picked apart the leaked image of Lich King Bolvar.

The logo also looked especially crusty and low-res, so the idea that this was just a random fake logo put through some image compression to hide defects was a very strong possibility.

[Hitei]

When was Lore an OG?

For Blizzard? Never. He joined in late MoP.