Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Vakir]

World of Warcraft: Rise of Galakrond

No Draenei with knives nor pistols

OK, but what if...



We cracked the next class.

[Catastrophy349]

OK, but what if...



We cracked the next class.

So, you want a FFXIV Gunblade class?

[Kokolums]

Well, he's maximizing the odds of being blamed for writing a shitty story for a franchise that never had amazing story-writing to begin with.

The way the game is played is you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. So the optimal strategy for Danuser's career is to destroy all old WoW lore and replace it with his own stuff. Even if 90% of its poor, 10% might be really good. Danuser adds that 10% to his CV to advance his career. Leaving ANYTHING untouched is just a missed opportunity to advance his career. That's why a gatekeeper is needed to protect WoW lore.

[Polybius]

It's kind of hard for O'Ros to meet anyone, given the events of Legion.

;(

Maybe some day in the Shadowlands, maybe.

[Vakir]

So, you want a FFXIV Gunblade class?

Huh, I didn't make that connection.

I guess my brain just went to "Big Boss makes everything better."

[Shadochi]

Hope 10.0 new landmass is a Large continent like WoD, MoP, Wrath, TBC. And not just a small one with many islands, zones split across 2 landmasses or disjointed zones.

I just looked back on some WOD zones and maps and it feels much better having that size of continent and style. And then throughout patch keep updating the main landmass with new areas like MoP or 6.2.

Broken Isles were technically for launch one continent but the layout and size wasn't really continent size since a good portion of the zones were broken into islands and just felt smaller than WoD zones (no open areas like in WoD).

[Varx]

Guys I figured it out... Put your tin foils hats on.

This past week's campaign quests dropped a huge hint that I don't think has been talked about that much.

During the vision the Oracle gives us, she speaks in 4 different languages. Titanic, Demonic, Shath'yar, and Draconic.

What's the significance here?

Titanic is the language of Order, Demonic is the language of disorder, Shath'yar is void...

Which leaves us with Draconic.

Why would the Oracle speak in Draconic in conjunction with other cosmic languages?

Well I know why...

Draconic is the language of the cosmic force of life.

How do I know this, well none other than our very own Elune.

Shadowlands confirmed Elune is a member of the pantheon of life.

Her sister is the winter queen, a member of the pantheon of death, together they represent the cycle of life and death.

How does this mean that Draconic is the language of life?? Elune ain't a dragon.

Well, if you look at the recent lore since Legion, Elune has been shown to have many Cosmic relationships with the other cosmic forces.

Her sister is with death.

It's heavily implied she helped create the Naruu, (beings of light and void) when the tears of Elune reignited Xera's core. Khadgar himself found a time hinting at Elune creating the Naruu.

And the Pillars of creation, artifacts of titanic origin, having been named after the Titans, has one that is named after her, the tears of Elune.

On top of that, Eonar's soul found refuge in a planet called Elunaria, as shown in Antorus.

I believe the Titans didn't act alone when ordering primal Azeroth, they had help from Elune. I would be surprised if the White lady has a titan facility that holds the corpse of Ysaraj, But anyway, back to dragons.

So it's clear the Titans and Elune have a close relationship.

But didn't the Titans empower the Aspects after defeating Galakrond? That's true, except one thing, they weren't the only ones present.

That's right, Elune was present during this event.

A celestial event known as The Embrace, happened the day the Titans empowered the Aspects. It is when Azeroth's two moons line up.

The book of fairy tails talks about this.

We as players have also witnessed the embrace in-game back in cataclysm. The blue dragon flight had to choose their new aspect. Kalecgos was empowered as the new aspect during this event.

If it was only the Titans who empowered the aspects, why is it that Kalec became a fully empowered aspect with a lunar event?

I believe the Embrace is what allowed such an empowerment to happen in the first place. It made proto drake's into dragons (creatures of life) empowered with the essence of Titans. Elunaria had dragons flying around, showing that dragons may not be exclusive to Azeroth.

Wouldnt be the first time cosmic beings have affinities with other cosmic forces.

Eonar, a titan, has a strong affinity for life.

The winter queen and Elune, both tied to their opposite force.

Sargeras, empowered by fel

Naruu, able to change between light and void.

Dread lords, created by death, became demons and creatures of light and void.

So ultimately, the power of the titan pantheon may be coursing through the aspects, but they are children of life. Which is why they speak Draconic, and why the Oracle spoke in Draconic to us.

This means that the dragon isles are in fact 10.0.

There's datamined collectors items hitting at green dragons.

But also this...

Our friend broker Ferim believe that each cosmic force has a Zereth and they're all connected. The Oracle spoke of other cosmic lantin words.

Ordos, tumult, lumen, vitae, mortis, and Umbra.

Ferim also believes that zovaals actions may have caused a rift in each Zereth in his attempt to dominate them all to unify the cosmos, as he said in his death scene.

All it would take is a little pressure applied from an outside force.

Well guess what other cosmic force is trying to stir shit up? That's right the void.

But wait didn't we defeat all the old gods? Yes that's true. But some of you may remember a little void flower at the end of the emerald nightmare raid. The dream was restored, but if you notice the spirit of Ysera slowly walking to a cave, you'll notice their is a void flower inside.

If you're a shadow priest Xalatath will comment on it.

The void has leverage against in the emerald dream still. The emerald dream is connected to the cosmic realm of life via Azeroth and in turn connected to Zereth mortis, which again the actions of zovaals have caused a rift.

This means the void lords will capitalize on this in an attempt to corrupt the world soul, as they've been trying to.

Now, given that dragons are creatures of life. It's safe to assume the dragon isles probably have some sort of significance with life and the emerald dream perhaps, supported by the collector's items that were datamined.

This is why we have to journey to the isles, to stop the void from from corrupting the soul.

And guess who the void has working for them?

None other than sinestra, a dragon herself, completely corrupted by the void. It's confirmed during the shaman order hall that her spirit is in the great dark beyond.

Sinestra will most likely return as the Draconic herald of the void lords. To exploit the lingering corruption left in the dream through the power of the dragon isles and the consequences of zovaals.

Oof that was a lot. I typed this on my phone so mind an grammatical and spelling errors.

[Foolicious]

Hope 10.0 new landmass is a Large continent like WoD, MoP, Wrath, TBC. And not just a small one with many islands, zones split across 2 landmasses or disjointed zones.

I just looked back on some WOD zones and maps and it feels much better having that size of continent and style. And then throughout patch keep updating the main landmass with new areas like MoP or 6.2.

Broken Isles were technically for launch one continent but the layout and size wasn't really continent size since a good portion of the zones were broken into islands and just felt smaller than WoD zones (no open areas like in WoD).

Broken isles had a weird design. it was build uphill with small rocks or cliffs cutting of areas which made it very small once you could fly and realized all the areas are mushed into a very small space.
But to be honest ill take everything thats not shadowlands. six completely disconnected zones, two only acessible via portal and one you can't use flypaths nor flying are annoying as hell.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Whoever sent Rygelon sure seems to've wanted to leave an impression on the Adventurers.

I don't know what is going on in the wider cosmos. If there are more than one Cycle involved and the greater beings have reset the universe several millions of times and then when Azeroth manifested itself in their Cycle structure she managed to escape and hence why the Progenitors are okay with her being damaged and made almost lifeless. But, again the whole "abusing Azeroth" point of the new canon doesn't make much sense to me beyond it being hatred or revenge for escaping the Greater Progenitors above The First Ones.

Again what Rygelon says isn't new, it is again another clear statement that should be taken as another step in the direction of trying to make this clear to the audience. Even if I still don't believe they are gonna do anything about it.

Besides, the new Cosmos canon is as it currently stands indecipherable and incomplete.

[Catastrophy349]

We already know what Blizzard's 9th expansion to World of Warcraft will be about. It's

[Vakir]

@Varx

I think you're on point with it. That's where most of the evidence points and the most obvious rep for dragons with the most beef with the Void short of maybe Alleria and the Light reps would be Wrathion.

I appreciate you not making the ratio of "Ren'dorei" to every other word in your post being 1:1 more than anything else.

We already know what Blizzard's 9th expansion to World of Warcraft will be about. It's

Ahhhh, so it's the same as the Krabby Patty Secret Formula. Of course the theme is

[AOL Instant Messenger]

We already know what Blizzard's 9th expansion to World of Warcraft will be about. It's

They got him.

[bagina]

Empire of Dragons really sounds like someone put "Black Empire" and "Dragon Isles" together, which is probably why the logo is all voidy, but the name sounds odd. Imagine creating such a good logo and then picking such a nonsense name.

I really don't get why you guys are hating on the name. I guess we're wired different.

[Varodoc]

I really don't get why you guys are hating on the name. I guess we're wired different.

The leaked logo you made was very good, it's what I expect from 10.0.

An expansed set on the Dragon Isles, with a Void Invasion as main conflict and main threat.

Just like Legion was set in the Broken Isles (continent that doesn't "seem Legion-themed", so to say), but where the main storyline revolved around the Burning Legion Invasion.

[Vakir]

I really don't get why you guys are hating on the name. I guess we're wired different.

It's also just interesting based on how much of a curveball it is as a name. Tons of theories can run wild of what it could mean and...everyone instead just kinda defaulted to the most boilerplate Dragon Isles concepts possible.

Meanwhile stuff like Awakenings, Descent of the Aspects, Rise of the Aspects, Beginnings, etc. are all the most bland names imaginable on par with stock-ass game subtitles like "Homecoming," "Origins," "Revelations," "Bloodlines," etc.

[guro-tchai]

"Malum" - Latin for evil.
"Draco" - Latin for dragon.
Maldraxxus, loosely translated, means "evil dragon".

did they really name a location after a dildo manufacturer? impressive.

in any case, they've mentioned that Maldraxxus is un-alive, basically a giant corpse (but still growing) floating in space. what if it's Galakrond's corpse? or some other big bad dragon we don't know about?

Draconic is the language of the cosmic force of life.

yes, probably. i suspect that there's just one Structure language, same for Order, Death and Light - Titanic. Chaotic forces can't agree on a common language, so Void, Fel and Life all have their own. that would explain why there's just four languages.
a Scourge language was mentioned in a quest back in WotLK, but the devs probably forgot about it.

Shadowlands confirmed Elune is a member of the pantheon of life. <...>
tears of Elune reignited Xera's core. Khadgar himself found a time hinting at Elune creating the Naruu.

she's been called an 'upstart goddess' by Xal. she's on a crusade to catch them all become the seventh force by uniting/mastering them all. the avatar, basically. maybe she pissed off the WQ in her pursuit of power, or didn't write home - as we all know, space mail sucks.

On top of that, Eonar's soul found refuge in a planet called Elunaria, as shown in Antorus.

what if Elunaria is not a planet, but a place on the Dragon isles?
what if Elunaria is Azeroth, and Elune is Azeroth? as in, she was wounded while trying to learn all the forces?

[Varx]

@Varx

I think you're on point with it. That's where most of the evidence points and the most obvious rep for dragons with the most beef with the Void short of maybe Alleria and the Light reps would be Wrathion.

I appreciate you not making the ratio of "Ren'dorei" to every other word in your post being 1:1 more than anything else.



Ahhhh, so it's the same as the Krabby Patty Secret Formula. Of course the theme is

Thank you.

Though I feel Dragons(life) vs void will only happen for the first two tiers probably. it'll end with Nozzy turning bad and into murozomd to create the infinite flight in an attempt to fight the void.

We defeat him and he then summons Yrel as a last ditch effort.

Then 11.0 is light vs void. In K'aresh and us in the middle.

[Vasoka]

Didn't the real Shadowlands leak with the art of Bastion come out like 1 week before Blizzcon? I don't think any leak will be accurate until like the 10th of April at the earliest.

[Vakir]

Didn't the real Shadowlands leak with the art of Bastion come out like 1 week before Blizzcon? I don't think any leak will be accurate until like the 10th of April at the earliest.

We've had some earlier, particularly Cataclysm by a long time, but yes, they were typically closer to Blizzcon.

[Foolicious]

Didn't the real Shadowlands leak with the art of Bastion come out like 1 week before Blizzcon? I don't think any leak will be accurate until like the 10th of April at the earliest.

Bastion was leaked roughly a week before but didn't get a lot of attention the first few days. Then the bolvar art and a banner on blizzcon with the bastion art was leaked two days before.
So it was in direct preparation for blizzcon. Chances are even less likely this time cause at blizzcon there are a lot of outsiders who can leak it during preparation. Most likely is that blizzard leaks it again when updating some website or shop a few days prior to the announcement.