1. #30621
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    Having even one (1) endgame zone for the end patch and having the raid consist of more than reused assets. It's a very lofty standard.
    as i said, running around opening boxes while flying isnt really endgame content but i guess that if you think doing WQ is endgame content it can works.


    100% with you regarding the reused assets

  2. #30622
    Found the leak I was thinking of.

    I cannot post it due to being new, but there is a leak on MMO that is just titled 10.0 leak.

    *9.2.5 pre-expansion event being put together is huge. Lots of reused events like earthquakes and invasions but also a massive Timewalking event that's being designed as a "mini-season-of-mastery" across lots of Azeroth centric dungeons and raids. Devs want players familiar with the history of Azeroth before 10.0, a “big tour” of old events and lore.*

    This seems a little on the nose. Like either a hell of a guess or outdated information that gets close.

  3. #30623
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearerofbadnews View Post
    The hatred towards Shadowlands despite its very quality gameplay is pretty telling towards who runs the game now (people who don't really do anything but quest).

    "I don't like the story and setting so its a bad expansion"
    Yeah I am gonna have to agree with that, if you removed the content droughts and had SL take place on Azeroth, I'd imagine quite a bit of people would hardly complain.

  4. #30624
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Yes.
    You not liking content doesn't somehow disqualify it from being content.
    Same for thinking that not having zone like this means no endgame in previous expac.

  5. #30625
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    Same for thinking that not having zone like this means no endgame in previous expac.
    No one is claiming there was no endgame. Generally speaking players want new zones per patch, to explore, quest, loot and play around in, rather than sit in just the main continent for an entire expansion.

  6. #30626
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferlion12 View Post
    Found the leak I was thinking of.

    I cannot post it due to being new, but there is a leak on MMO that is just titled 10.0 leak.

    *9.2.5 pre-expansion event being put together is huge. Lots of reused events like earthquakes and invasions but also a massive Timewalking event that's being designed as a "mini-season-of-mastery" across lots of Azeroth centric dungeons and raids. Devs want players familiar with the history of Azeroth before 10.0, a “big tour” of old events and lore.*

    This seems a little on the nose. Like either a hell of a guess or outdated information that gets close.
    That is not at all related to "Lordaeron/North EK areas getting continuation stories". We have yet to see anything on Kalimdor aside from one mention of Teldrassil in the files.

    So far the only things getting content in 2.5 are the Dark Iron, Forsaken and Blood Elves.

  7. #30627
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    And that is fine, it doesnt need to be anything insane.

    But the Tyrande Night Warrior is a dead plotline and if you compare to the leak, there is some range of plot twist.

    The Elune dead plotline

    The muezala dead plotline which is basically introducing him and "killing" him in the same dungeon after pushing him in Legion and BFA
    Tyrande's storyline was a pretty on-the-nose illustration of the theme they were going for with Sylvanas. Sylvanas' thirst for vengeance led her down this path, a path that without repentance would lead to her destruction. And Tyrande took a bargain of Vengeance that would literally kill her if she completed it. So they both decide to let go of that Vengeance.

    Technically we don't know the formal ending of these plotlines because the actual conclusion is next week.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    WoD had Challenge Mode (which are literally the m+ progenitor) maybe you never done those but those were a source of loot in WoD for a while, and the Coliseum..
    Challenge Mode started in MoP.

    I really enjoyed WoD, so just let go this idea that more content means good content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    Same for thinking that not having zone like this means no endgame in previous expac.
    Good thing that nobody said that then.


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  9. #30629
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    I think it's important to remember that even if SL has more content, it's also just less general quality.
    ***

    Sure SL has a lot of extra stuff like the xmogs etc the mounts no shoot but then fails in some general quality stuff or stuff like


    For this xmog you need 12376128374681723 anima, ok easy to farm, and 300 offering, ah nvm.


    Which is pretty lame?

  10. #30630
    Well, good news, these arguments combined with 9.2.5 datamining are rapidly pushing the page count. Hoping to hit 2000 asap

  11. #30631
    Maybe we will be getting a kind of "care package" for all races in 2.5? Dark Iron are getting a questline(?) and mount and heritage weapons, Blood Elves are getting a questline and mount and Blood Knight armor (that you don't need PVP for), Forsaken are likely getting a questline and would definitely get a mount.

    Either that or it's exclusively Eastern Kingdom races, which means we would be getting Humans, Bronzebeard Dwarves and Gnomes next.

  12. #30632
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    ***

    Sure SL has a lot of extra stuff like the xmogs etc the mounts no shoot but then fails in some general quality stuff or stuff like


    For this xmog you need 12376128374681723 anima, ok easy to farm, and 300 offering, ah nvm.


    Which is pretty lame?
    Shadowlands was pretty bad with anima, I'm just thankful it wasn't tied to player power like AP.

  13. #30633
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Well, good news, these arguments combined with 9.2.5 datamining are rapidly pushing the page count. Hoping to hit 2000 asap
    It's more than feasible at the current pace!

  14. #30634
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearerofbadnews View Post
    The hatred towards Shadowlands despite its very quality gameplay is pretty telling towards who runs the game now (people who don't really do anything but quest).

    "I don't like the story and setting so its a bad expansion"
    2 post account

    "quality gameplay"


    after conduits energy, unswappable covenants, rng dominion socket and shards




    ok

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    Could it be??
    "You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    Having even one (1) endgame zone for the end patch and having the raid consist of more than reused assets. It's a very lofty standard.



    I'd argue both Wrath and TBC had more. SL is on the distinct lower tier in terms of pure content amount.

    @Le Conceptuel

    That's an argument that can be made regarding SL in comparison to say Legion or Mists (save Mists dungeons which were dross on a crusty roll) but not as regards Cataclysm. Cataclysm's end raid is hot garbage and its non-FL raids are mediocre.
    Wrath and TBS were raid or die. You had a very small amount of daily quests and aside from professions, that was it. It was fantastic for the time, but any expansion before MoP or Legion doesnt compare to the level of content of any modern WoW expansion. Even WoD and Cata had more outdoor world content than Wrath and previous.

  17. #30637
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post


    Could it be??
    Sylvanas has become a pancake?

  18. #30638
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post


    Could it be??
    *unbreathing intensifies*

  19. #30639
    Let's touch on just what we see so far.

    A mini season of mastery with timewalking themed dungeons from past expansions? Check.
    A potential invasion involving past villains? Check.
    Return to the Burning Crusade Orphan? Check.
    Reliving Quel'thas being invaded by the scourge? Check.

    For the first build, which are generally pretty scant, we check a lot off that list, and the major system, the 9.2.5 season 4 season of mastery thing is the big one for me.

    A hell of a guess.

  20. #30640
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post

    Could it be??
    Isn't that just her current model?

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