1. #30641
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    That's a lot of black.
    Guess she was tired of looking like a marbel statue.
    This texture is so weird, considering the face has eyes squinted close, rather than empty sockets like most textures.

    This has to be some kind of statue or object or something. Perhaps some kind of banshee wisp?

  2. #30642
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    This texture is so weird, considering the face has eyes squinted close, rather than empty sockets like most textures.

    This has to be some kind of statue or object or something. Perhaps some kind of banshee wisp?
    I am 99% sure this isn't a texture, it's just an effect map for her existing texture, give me a sec.

  3. #30643
    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage Xaxxas View Post


    It may not be indicative of any expansion themes, but hey.. nice..

    Jellycaaatt, Jellycaaatt.. How are they adding you?
    They're adding all the other mounts that lost the vote, I wonder if it's going to be some sort of challenge like the book was.

  4. #30644
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I am 99% sure this isn't a texture, it's just an effect map for her existing texture, give me a sec.
    Maybe its just her shadowform? She is a priest after all.

  5. #30645
    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Maybe its just her shadowform? She is a priest after all.
    I feel like they'd be doing too much with her to make her lightforged + undead + capable of having a shadowform

  6. #30646
    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Maybe its just her shadowform? She is a priest after all.
    No, not like that. Here:
    https://puu.sh/IQfSc/81e1112a3b.mp4

    The black is black because whatever blend mode or effect it's applying is something that ignores the black, some sort of lighten/glow/add/color dodge. So the black is just parts that aren't being affected.
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    Sad.
    I would've totally welcomed a 'Goth Queen Calia, Herald of Endless Darkness'.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    which could means that now Dark Ranger or at least Forsaken Elves are plausible?
    It’s a bit late in the expansion for a new class. Additionally, I don’t think UD players want their race hijacked by elves. I believe a more likely scenario is that this just deals with the forsaken post-Sylvanas, and Heritage armor. I do think that Hunters are going to get Wailing Arrow and Withering Force as talents, and we might see a return of Black Arrow to the Hunter class as well.

  9. #30649
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    No, not like that. Here:
    https://puu.sh/IQfSc/81e1112a3b.mp4.
    cool. thanks for showing.
    guess the re-education is on schedule.

  10. #30650
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    No, not like that. Here:
    https://puu.sh/IQfSc/81e1112a3b.mp4

    The black is black because whatever blend mode or effect it's applying is something that ignores the black, some sort of lighten/glow/add/color dodge. So the black is just parts that aren't being affected.
    Interesting. Thanks for elaborating. I'll be curious what it ends up being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    It’s a bit late for a new class. Additionally, I don’t think UD players want their race hijacked by elves. I believe a more likely scenario is that this just deals with the forsaken post-Sylvanas, and Heritage armor. I do think that Hunters are going to get Wailing Arrow and Withering Force as talents, and we might see a return of Black Arrow to the Hunter class as well.
    Bit late for a new class? Nah, this patch will be out to the live servers likely well after the 10.0 announcement on 4/19 which would line it up well to have a new class or new races as a pre-order bonus.

    I do tend to agree though on your take that this will deal with some post-Sylvanas stuff for the Forsaken, finding their new way in Azeroth as well as who they are now. The fact that so much is encrypted though does make me wonder if there's more to it. Blizz wouldn't exactly have a major reason to encrypt something like a Heritage Armor quest at this point, save maybe for some sort of surprise during next week's Epilogue: Judgement piece. Though if that were the case, why not just keep the maps out of this week's build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    It’s a bit late in the expansion for a new class. Additionally, I don’t think UD players want their race hijacked by elves. I believe a more likely scenario is that this just deals with the forsaken post-Sylvanas, and Heritage armor. I do think that Hunters are going to get Wailing Arrow and Withering Force as talents, and we might see a return of Black Arrow to the Hunter class as well.

    I mean forsaken players are asking for Elves UD and Human UD since like legion end with the allied races, people play UD and see Sylvanas, her dark rangers girls and Nathanos and want them just like we wanted the vampire elves

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngerFork View Post
    Bit late for a new class? Nah, this patch will be out to the live servers likely well after the 10.0 announcement on 4/19 which would line it up well to have a new class or new races as a pre-order bonus.
    Wouldn’t they save a new class for 10.0?

    I do tend to agree though on your take that this will deal with some post-Sylvanas stuff for the Forsaken, finding their new way in Azeroth as well as who they are now. The fact that so much is encrypted though does make me wonder if there's more to it. Blizz wouldn't exactly have a major reason to encrypt something like a Heritage Armor quest at this point, save maybe for some sort of surprise during next week's Epilogue: Judgement piece. Though if that were the case, why not just keep the maps out of this week's build?
    There’s also a letter to Greymayne in 9.2.5. Maybe Callia is moving the Forsaken out of Gileneas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage Xaxxas View Post
    I like that so far. It has the best of Shadowlands in it: Sylvanas trying desperately to convince Anduin she is a dark and brooding antihero to his amusement and frustration.

    That beginning really jsut sets the tone, doesnt it? Sylvanas tries to appeal to Anduins sympathy by acting like her life was a horrible parade of tragedies, and Anduin just brushes it off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    I mean forsaken players are asking for Elves UD and Human UD since like legion end with the allied races, people play UD and see Sylvanas, her dark rangers girls and Nathanos and want them just like we wanted the vampire elves
    Do we have a consensus of how many UD players want this? I can’t imagine a UD player wanting an elf option. That would completely negate the point of UDs and make them into essentially grey Blood Elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage Xaxxas View Post
    Decent. I foresee this book having the first of the Rise of the Lich King problems, that being that the new bits are a lot more detailed and meaningful than what are, this being Golden, going to be direct copies of in-game dialogues. Its major advantage is that the second Rise of the Lich King problem, namely that it made WC3 Arthas less interesting and nixed Ner'zhul is impossible to do with Shadowlands because any throughline in Sylvanas's story is better than none and there are no characters in her arc to ruin (lol Bald Man).
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

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    Can someone please share the excerpt? Wowhead is blocked in my country so I can't see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeraldofSargeras View Post
    Can someone please share the excerpt? Wowhead is blocked in my country so I can't see.
    Here you go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvanas: First Blood Part II
    INTERLUDE

    Anduin had listened without interrupting. Sylvanas had not thought in detail about her childhood in years. She was surprised at how clear some of her memories were, even now. It stirred within her the old, familiar combination of pain and then anger. But somehow, now that a solution, a rectification of all that had gone so horribly, cruelly wrong in her life, was so close at hand, the memories did not hurt—or anger—her as much. She had let go of many things, walking this path, and perhaps this weight was some of it.

    She fell silent, unwilling as of yet to revisit the moments where the tight-knit fabric of family, friends, and a future full of hope began to unravel, and the silence between them was long. Anduin broke it by moving the tray forward with a scraping sound, nudging it with one armored finger until it was partway out of the circle.

    “Why do you tell me this?” he asked quietly.

    “You did not know it,” Sylvanas said.

    “Did you hope to play on my sympathy? Did you think your story of a strong, loving, present family would move me somehow?”

    Of course she had. She’d all but told him that was what she intended.

    His face was hard, his expression flat, and she could hear his anger simmering beneath his words as he got to his feet.

    “I’m certain your various spies have ferreted out all the details about my childhood, but let me remind you, just in case there are any gaps in your knowledge,” Anduin said. “When I was an infant, my mother was killed by a bloodthirsty mob. People she was standing up for. I imagine you know what a stone, thrown with angry force, can do to a skull.”

    Sylvanas did. She remained silent.

    “You remember how hard your mother drove you. I don’t remember mine at all. My father saw it happen. It . . . broke him. He could barely stand to look at me as I grew up. I have no warm, wise conversations with him during my childhood to look back on. Then he vanished when I was ten, and I suddenly became the king of Stormwind. You?” he scoffed. “At that age, you still were using a child’s bow.”

    He was calm, but also angry and he was hurt. Anduin was right. She had been fully informed of almost every moment of Anduin’s brief life thus far, but it had always been comprised of cold facts. Sylvanas knew what else he would say, and abruptly wished he would not say it.

    “Varian returned full of anger. It took us a long time to reconcile. But we did. We did,” he repeated, more softly, as if to himself. “And then . . . the Broken Shore. But you know about that.”

    “I do,” Sylvanas said, not rising to the bait.

    “Your life,” Anduin said, quietly, “was filled with riches. Riches I’ve never known. Your world was one of safety and certainty. Of harmless pranks and easy forgiveness. You knew both of your parents. You had sisters and a brother. Your youth was filled with grace and laughter, beauty and love and support, and friendship. And yes—I know that world is no more—for any of us. But at least, you had the chance to taste it before it was gone.”

    Sylvanas rose now, too. “Do not envy me, Little Lion. You have lost much, certainly. But it is nothing compared with what I have lost.”

    “Is it nothing compared with what the night elves lost? Or should I say, what you took from them?”

    And there it was: the burning of Teldrassil. Sylvanas knew he would throw it at her but had not expected he would do so just yet. “I did what I did for a reason. For the greatest reason of all.” Her voice rose before she could properly guard its cadence.

    “You became a butcher, Sylvanas, slaughtering innocents, all in the name of self-righteous lies!”

    It was not the petulant cry of a child, but the just fury of what the world would see as a good man. She could not rely on his empathy, not yet. She wondered if Anduin had chosen the word butcher deliberately, but even now, after all that had been done to him, she did not think him that cruel.

    They stared at each other for a long minute. Sylvanas tamped down her anger. “I will speak of that in due time. But perhaps you will feel better when I tell you all that happened after Alleria left Quel’Thalas. You might not envy me quite as much then.”

    She sank down onto the stone again, indicating that he sit as well. He made no move to do so. “Stand if you must, then, but I will be here for a time, and . . .” Sylvanas couldn’t resist a hint of smugness. “You do not appear to be going anywhere soon.”
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

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