Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nyel]

As much as I would love full EK/Kalimdor revamp and fresh start, "Lordaeron" expac is brilliant idea. It wouldn't take enourmous resources (still I would expect world bigger than SL, something more similar to BfA) and very likely expand original zones. Southern EK and Kalimdor could have separate expansions.

I mean isn't Lordaeron like... massive? Western + Easter Plaguelands, Tirisfal, Silverpine Forest and if they add the Blood Elf zones (which would make a lot of sense) it's already a pretty impressive area that might be covered, isn't it? They could add Gilneas et voila, massive "continent".

[Teriz]

I’m very happy to see Sylvanas gone from the game for the foreseeable future. Obviously they’ll bring her back at some point, but it’s not going to be for a very long time.

[Luck4]

Yeah I don't think a timeskip is even needed for a world revamp, so much time has passed since cata anyway so updating the old world just to where it is now lorewise would be enough.

The problem though is the new books about Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms perpetuating the status quo, Shadowlands "chaotic time" was our only hope to explain a revamp/soft reboot IMO.

[DarkAmbient]

Our favorite mage makes a return in 9.2.5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWNuYRyRzgw

Jaina new guardian in 10.0?

Why is he talking like he's 100 years old? "Forgive the musings of an old man" etc, and his new voice. He's only 50-ish.

[Teriz]

I mean isn't Lordaeron like... massive? Western + Easter Plaguelands, Tirisfal, Silverpine Forest and if they add the Blood Elf zones (which would make a lot of sense) it's already a pretty impressive area that might be covered, isn't it? They could add Gilneas et voila, massive "continent".

I’m not seeing how that would be a major expansion feature though. Stuff like that sort of just comes with new expansions.

[ercarp]

Our favorite mage makes a return in 9.2.5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWNuYRyRzgw

Jaina new guardian in 10.0?

Why, why, why... Why did they have to bring Khadgar into this garbage expansion at the LAST MINUTE? He deserves better.

Also yeah, his voice sounds a bit different to me. Deeper somehow. It's obviously the same VA but it looks like they might have forgot how to do Khadgar.

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Yeah I don't think a timeskip is even needed for a world revamp, so much time has passed since cata anyway so updating the old world just to where it is now lorewise would be enough.

Pretty much this, but I also wouldn't mind a time skip if that means new characters and threats around the Old World.

[AliceCattx]

Khadgar just showing up, with the older voice, gives me dreadlord flags?

[ercarp]

Khadgar just showing up, with the older voice, gives me dreadlord flags?

Lol no, if Khadgar is a dreadlord I'm quitting the game twice.

[AliceCattx]

Lol no, if Khadgar is a dreadlord I'm quitting the game twice.

Probably completely wrong, but it's the long absence of him being on the screen with the sudden arrival and the different voice that just makes it a bit off for me. I don't mean to say the Khadgar we knew in Legion etc was a Dreadlord, I mean this version that's meeting up with Jaina

[ercarp]

Probably completely wrong, but it's the long absence of him being on the screen with the sudden arrival and the different voice that just makes it a bit off for me. I don't mean to say the Khadgar we knew in Legion etc was a Dreadlord, I mean this version that's meeting up with Jaina

Isn't the whole dreadlord threat supposed to be over and done with by now? Also I wouldn't read too much into the voice change, to me it just seems like the VA forgot how to do Khadgar's voice—and I don't blame them, it's been like half a decade since he voiced him last iirc.

[therumblings]

Isn't the whole dreadlord threat supposed to be over and done with by now?

Most certainly not, we still have Denathrius on the loose. I'm guessing they will save him for a Nathreza expansion.

[BaumanKing]

Why is he talking like he's 100 years old? "Forgive the musings of an old man" etc, and his new voice. He's only 50-ish.

I don't think Blizz writers consider old books that established Khadgar's age to be canon. "Book Khadgar" and "in-game Khadgar" are two completely different characters tbh.

[Scyth]

I’m very happy to see Sylvanas gone from the game for the foreseeable future. Obviously they’ll bring her back at some point, but it’s not going to be for a very long time.

That really depends on how future expansions are doing sales wise tbh lol

[Fahrad Wagner]

For those confused at Khadgar’s voice and attitude: he has been suffering from an age curse for a while, perhaps it’s catching up with him. Think accelerated aging by phases, so the thing is like a rollercoaster. For example Khadgar may be 50 in age but now feeling like he’s 80, whereas when he was in Legion and let’s say… 47? He might actually have felt his age at the time.

Editing this: if I recall well, Medivh actually drained his lifeforce, similar to what orc warlocks used to do. So, the poor guy might start to really feel the weight of his age now.

[Nyel]

I’m not seeing how that would be a major expansion feature though. Stuff like that sort of just comes with new expansions.

Hugh? I'm talking about a completely revamped Lordaeron. That's not a feature, that's the setting, "continent" or whatever you might call it.

[bagina]

I don't mind this ending for Sylvanas (roaming an endless wasteland is pretty badass actually), it's just everything that led to it that offends me. They didn't have to murder her character to do it, they didn't have to turn her into this braindead, pathetic damp rag of a character to do it. They could've just sent her there in the first week of Shadowlands without all that unneccessary shit and it would've made no difference.

[Syegfryed]

It was a good expansion, but plenty of mistakes were made. MoP was the first big sign of massive sub drop off, and its content didn't help retaining it. It was also a huge mis-step in not being able to capture the attention of the Chinese audience as much as they anticipated. They were pitting themselves up against other established Chinese MMO's that were starting to flourish, like Silk Road Online, Age of Wushu, Heroes of the Three Kingdoms, etc. Incomparison, MoP was a western cartoon parody of Chinese culture, and the Kung Fu Panda criticisms were fairly apt. Just look at how the Monkey King is an over-the-top exaggerated cartoon Monkey.

Mop still had more subs than the alter expansions, wow had a time that it ha to drop, it could not sustain itself rly, yeah the theme isn't popular with edgy people, but that is not a msitake by itself and that is what im talking about

They did this because of all the controversies surrounding Pandaren in general. It's not even worth it for them to make new Pandaren lore when they could just continue the story without Pandaren mattering at all, as they've done for the past decade. They've been swept under the rug with very little attention brought to them, and remain as one of the black sheep races that rarely ever get a spotlight shone on them.

they did stories with goblins and gnomes, they sure can do with pandarens, it doesn't need to be an entire patch about then, theye ven tocuhed on pandren stuff with monk class hall shenanigans.

Problem is a neutrla race ina faction where they kill each other is DOA.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Nothing new. It's how Thrall acts totally shocked and horrified about Anduin despite having spoken to him one (1) time in a side book. Or Bob willing to put his people on the line to save Baine with whom he'd never swapped a single line of dialogue. All of the Bland Gang are just appendages of a single overmind and so know each other instinctively.

If Thrall doesn't tell us that Anduin being turned evil is bad, how are we supposed to know it's bad? We need a preexisting character to explain this to us, and Jaina won't because reasons. Besides, Thrall simply has a sense of kinship for Anduin due to their shared status as a writer's pet.

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I don't know but this antorus Pala set is a bit weird choice for the blood elf blood Pala thing. It's a cool set (that's why I'm using it as my night warrior set on my ne warrior ... See Sig) but they could have gone further and create a new set. Maybe it comes with blood elf weapons though

It's likely because it was already in use as a cut color scheme and later was used in BfA. It isn't a new asset or recolor at all. Add to this the generally more sinister appearance of this relative to other Paladin sets due to the pointy shape language.

[Raetary]

Isn't the whole dreadlord threat supposed to be over and done with by now?

Denathrius is still on the loose.
The other Dreadlords are still infiltrating the other Forces.

We are far from being done with them.

[Cherry123]

well we have a new young character. Anduin's shippers activated