Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[therumblings]

Isn't the whole dreadlord threat supposed to be over and done with by now?

Most certainly not, we still have Denathrius on the loose. I'm guessing they will save him for a Nathreza expansion.

[BaumanKing]

Why is he talking like he's 100 years old? "Forgive the musings of an old man" etc, and his new voice. He's only 50-ish.

I don't think Blizz writers consider old books that established Khadgar's age to be canon. "Book Khadgar" and "in-game Khadgar" are two completely different characters tbh.

[Scyth]

I’m very happy to see Sylvanas gone from the game for the foreseeable future. Obviously they’ll bring her back at some point, but it’s not going to be for a very long time.

That really depends on how future expansions are doing sales wise tbh lol

[Fahrad Wagner]

For those confused at Khadgar’s voice and attitude: he has been suffering from an age curse for a while, perhaps it’s catching up with him. Think accelerated aging by phases, so the thing is like a rollercoaster. For example Khadgar may be 50 in age but now feeling like he’s 80, whereas when he was in Legion and let’s say… 47? He might actually have felt his age at the time.

Editing this: if I recall well, Medivh actually drained his lifeforce, similar to what orc warlocks used to do. So, the poor guy might start to really feel the weight of his age now.

[Nyel]

I’m not seeing how that would be a major expansion feature though. Stuff like that sort of just comes with new expansions.

Hugh? I'm talking about a completely revamped Lordaeron. That's not a feature, that's the setting, "continent" or whatever you might call it.

[bagina]

I don't mind this ending for Sylvanas (roaming an endless wasteland is pretty badass actually), it's just everything that led to it that offends me. They didn't have to murder her character to do it, they didn't have to turn her into this braindead, pathetic damp rag of a character to do it. They could've just sent her there in the first week of Shadowlands without all that unneccessary shit and it would've made no difference.

[Syegfryed]

It was a good expansion, but plenty of mistakes were made. MoP was the first big sign of massive sub drop off, and its content didn't help retaining it. It was also a huge mis-step in not being able to capture the attention of the Chinese audience as much as they anticipated. They were pitting themselves up against other established Chinese MMO's that were starting to flourish, like Silk Road Online, Age of Wushu, Heroes of the Three Kingdoms, etc. Incomparison, MoP was a western cartoon parody of Chinese culture, and the Kung Fu Panda criticisms were fairly apt. Just look at how the Monkey King is an over-the-top exaggerated cartoon Monkey.

Mop still had more subs than the alter expansions, wow had a time that it ha to drop, it could not sustain itself rly, yeah the theme isn't popular with edgy people, but that is not a msitake by itself and that is what im talking about

They did this because of all the controversies surrounding Pandaren in general. It's not even worth it for them to make new Pandaren lore when they could just continue the story without Pandaren mattering at all, as they've done for the past decade. They've been swept under the rug with very little attention brought to them, and remain as one of the black sheep races that rarely ever get a spotlight shone on them.

they did stories with goblins and gnomes, they sure can do with pandarens, it doesn't need to be an entire patch about then, theye ven tocuhed on pandren stuff with monk class hall shenanigans.

Problem is a neutrla race ina faction where they kill each other is DOA.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Nothing new. It's how Thrall acts totally shocked and horrified about Anduin despite having spoken to him one (1) time in a side book. Or Bob willing to put his people on the line to save Baine with whom he'd never swapped a single line of dialogue. All of the Bland Gang are just appendages of a single overmind and so know each other instinctively.

If Thrall doesn't tell us that Anduin being turned evil is bad, how are we supposed to know it's bad? We need a preexisting character to explain this to us, and Jaina won't because reasons. Besides, Thrall simply has a sense of kinship for Anduin due to their shared status as a writer's pet.

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I don't know but this antorus Pala set is a bit weird choice for the blood elf blood Pala thing. It's a cool set (that's why I'm using it as my night warrior set on my ne warrior ... See Sig) but they could have gone further and create a new set. Maybe it comes with blood elf weapons though

It's likely because it was already in use as a cut color scheme and later was used in BfA. It isn't a new asset or recolor at all. Add to this the generally more sinister appearance of this relative to other Paladin sets due to the pointy shape language.

[Raetary]

Isn't the whole dreadlord threat supposed to be over and done with by now?

Denathrius is still on the loose.
The other Dreadlords are still infiltrating the other Forces.

We are far from being done with them.

[Cherry123]

well we have a new young character. Anduin's shippers activated

[BaumanKing]

well we have a new young character. Anduin's shippers activated

Anduin belongs to Wrathion.

[Varodoc]

In the next expansion, the Ren'dorei will finally make their power move, I can feel it. Their leader Alleria Windrunner is now de-facto co-leader of Stormwind and the Alliance, it is almost time, Yes.

Me and the entire realm of Argent Dawn EU have waited far too long for this.

[TomatoBisque]

well we have a new young character. Anduin's shippers activated

who? Salandria?

[Catastrophy349]

As i said, i do not hate WoW. I just think the current expac and what is going to come is the worst version of the game we had up to now. And unfortunately, instead of learning how to properly create a game, the devs continue their agenda, cannot think about a real paradigm change but simply create an even bigger pile of shit.



I will stay in this forum and criticize the incompetence of the devs whenever i see it useful. You neither have to read my opinion nor to agree. Also i will always, without doubt, and without being intimidated by any fan, point out what mistakes the devs do and why their behaviour is simply destroying their own game and its culture, for keeping a cash cow alive.

I want to convince players not to blindly buy the next shit expac again, as they did in shadowlands, just to leave it a month or two after they bought it. I want to save those who love wow from just another disappointment. Instead of being a blind fan, be a critical fan. Point out the mistakes.

"I want to convince players not to blindly buy the next shit expac again." This is where you went wrong. I agreed with a lot of what you were saying until this line. Don't tell people NOT to tell you what to or not to write THEN say, "I'm going to convince you not to blindly buy a shit expansion again" when it's not even announced.

You're literally the toxicity in the WoW community that I can't tolerate. I love all the people complaining about Season 4 as if we even expected that to happen. It's completely new, different, unexpected, and interesting. You don't have to like what they are doing for Season 4. That's fine. But to complain that you don't like it because of x, y, and z? I guess people would prefer a 14+ month lull with absolutely nothing. Quit the game, save $15/month. Stop ruining people's fun. It's insane to me.

[Osmeric]

"I want to convince players not to blindly buy the next shit expac again." This is where you went wrong.

That's perfectly cromulent advice. I'm sure many people who quit early in SL wish they had followed it.

[Catastrophy349]

Yeah, i am still not telling them what to do. I simply ask them to be more critical.

Wait for April 19th to get the full disappointment. I got a clear impression from 9.2.5 PTR and its data on what is going to come.

If April 19th is a disaster, you'll be the first one I credit on the forums for being right. I just hope if it's good, you are also willing to accept defeat, too.

[draugril]

If April 19th is a disaster, you'll be the first one I credit on the forums for being right. I just hope if it's good, you are also willing to accept defeat, too.

Even BfA had me hyped, on paper. Shadowlands was honestly the first expansion that had me raising an eyebrow during the announcement. I kept waiting for a hook that never came. And unsurprisingly, I was not hooked this expansion. First time in nearly two decades. Suffice it to say, this experience had raised my level of cynicism for the next announcement.

The tragic part is that no one in my guild is even following WoW anymore. They couldn't tell you what the current patch is. Most didn't even get to level 60, if they picked up the expansion at all. And these are all people that want to love WoW. It just isn't giving them a reason to, and unlike me and most of us here, they aren't obsessive enough to follow it even when they aren't actively playing. I tried to get them on board for Shadowlands... and I have to admit that I feel a twinge of shame for having done that.

[Sondrelk]

Even BfA had me hyped, on paper. Shadowlands was honestly the first expansion that had me raising an eyebrow during the announcement. I kept waiting for a hook that never came. And unsurprisingly, I was not hooked this expansion. First time in nearly two decades. Suffice it to say, this experience had raised my level of cynicism for the next announcement.

The tragic part is that no one in my guild is even following WoW anymore. They couldn't tell you what the current patch is. Most didn't even get to level 60, if they picked up the expansion at all. And these are all people that want to love WoW. It just isn't giving them a reason to, and unlike me and most of us here, they aren't obsessive enough to follow it even when they aren't actively playing. I tried to get them on board for Shadowlands... and I have to admit that I feel a twinge of shame for having done that.

Amusingly, while I wholeheartedly agree with the whole hype thing. I was extremely hyped for BfA, and barely more than lukewarm for SL. I do find it intriguing that in theory SL is far superior.
Barring the droughts SL had a somewhat competent plot, fairly engaging endgame, good transmogs to farm, and more variety at endgame.

I can only hope 10.0 is the whole package in this regard. Something that makes me properly hyped at reveal, and then continues on the Shadowlands model of endgame without ending up with long droughts.

I imagine that somewhere between Legion, BfA, and SL there is the ideal WoW expansion honestly.
Combine the Legion patch cadence, BfA theming, and SL endgame (sans covenant abilities), and you will have a damn good expansion.

[Lahis]

Since Salandria has come back as a teen now, wonder if her Alliance counterpart will be featured also in the future?

[draugril]

Amusingly, while I wholeheartedly agree with the whole hype thing. I was extremely hyped for BfA, and barely more than lukewarm for SL. I do find it intriguing that in theory SL is far superior.
Barring the droughts SL had a somewhat competent plot, fairly engaging endgame, good transmogs to farm, and more variety at endgame.

I can only hope 10.0 is the whole package in this regard. Something that makes me properly hyped at reveal, and then continues on the Shadowlands model of endgame without ending up with long droughts.

I imagine that somewhere between Legion, BfA, and SL there is the ideal WoW expansion honestly.
Combine the Legion patch cadence, BfA theming, and SL endgame (sans covenant abilities), and you will have a damn good expansion.

I always maintain that Shadowlands is leaps and bounds a better expansion than Legion... on paper. The systems that actually did get iterated on are vastly improved from when they debuted in Legion. The unfortunate part is simply that this is Legion 3.0. We've already played this iteration of WoW, twice over before Shadowlands dropped. It doesn't matter how much better this iteration is if the audience burnt out on the core gameplay years ago. As bold and novel a setting as Shadowlands is, that doesn't matter if you play it too safely with the actual mechanics and gameplay loop. They need to be bold with the actual experience of playing the game as well.