Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Varx]

so im under the belief that
Bolvar and Taelia are the daughter and husband Calia believes are dead
and that she is the wife/mother they believe are dead

the reason for them to not recognize eachother is a combination of age and Calia not using her real name when she was married to Bolvar who at the time was just a foot soldier

also interesting that Dadgar is back

Wait a minute wasn't it revealed that Calia child is under the custody of the Scarlet Crusade?????

I swear I read that, or that someone is hiding them.

[draugril]

Things are really beginning to heat up in the worlds of Warcraft! Yesterday, Patch 2.5.4 “The Gods of Zul’Aman” released for The Burning Crusade Classic realms. We also saw the first build for World of Warcraft’s 9.2.5 patch on the Public Test Realm! Additionally, we are anxiously waiting for the World First kill of the Jailer in World of Warcraft: Shadowlands Patch 9.2 “Eternity’s End”. Next week we should finally learn the fate of a certain banshee in the Final Chapter of the 9.2 Campaign titled “Epilogue: Judgement”. Lastly, the release of “Sylvanas” by New York Times’ Bestselling Author, Christie Golden, will finally come on Tuesday, March 29, 2022. What an exciting time for The Warcraft Franchise!

Laying it on a little thick, there...

[Teriz]

That's why I'm fan of class skins wild edition. We could have Dark Ranger, Necromancer and Tinker in single expansion. Hell, even next month with pre-order.

Necromancer and Dark Ranger yes; Their abilities exist in the current class lineup.

You really can’t say the same for the Tinker. It’s ability set is geared for a technology class, and doesn’t exist in the class lineup.

[draugril]

Necromancer and Dark Ranger yes; Their abilities exist in the current class lineup.

You really can’t say the same for the Tinker. It’s ability set is geared for a technology class.

I'll say that this is arguable and that we should move on since this is a discussion that has been had many, many times over already here and elsewhere.

[Catastrophy349]

I purposely made that post to show everyone that I don’t work for Blizzard and I was totally being a smart***.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Laying it on a little thick, there...

Blizzard has to seed "hype" through marketing across various platforms, after all.

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I purposely made that post to show everyone that I don’t work for Blizzard and I was totally being a smart***.

If you insist.

[Kiivar86]

Tell me I didn't come back to more fucking Tinker discussion.

You can't escape it, it is inevitable.

so im under the belief that
Bolvar and Taelia are the daughter and husband Calia believes are dead
and that she is the wife/mother they believe are dead

the reason for them to not recognize eachother is a combination of age and Calia not using her real name when she was married to Bolvar who at the time was just a foot soldier

also interesting that Dadgar is back

But somehow Calia doesn't recognize Bolvar by name?

[therumblings]

so datamined stuff including a few new lines between the menethil family...that dont know they are the menethil family

link? /10char

[Raetary]

Wait a minute wasn't it revealed that Calia child is under the custody of the Scarlet Crusade?????

I swear I read that, or that someone is hiding them.

It's Scarlet Crusade propaganda.

They knew of her child, so they made up a story of having "her son".
Except she doesn't have a son, she has a daughter.

[Makabreska]

Tinkers are the Burning of Teldrassil of classes.

So they will eventually happen and will piss off everyone?

[Super Dickmann]

So they will eventually happen and will piss off everyone?

Yes, then they'll be talked about endlessly for years on end. So they're also the high elves of classes.

[draugril]

Yes, then they'll be talked about endlessly for years on end. So they're also the high elves of classes.

So they'll get all the cool "personalized transformation" cosmetics that Druids have been asking after for years?

[Factcheckerrr]

It's Scarlet Crusade propaganda.

They knew of her child, so they made up a story of having "her son".
Except she doesn't have a son, she has a daughter.

I'm pretty sure they are one and the same character. The Scarlets currently lack a singular "leader" that could stand toe to toe next to Turalyon and Yrel as leaders of the Light, so this "Royal Son" would actually be Calia's daughter either brainwashed or forced into being a masculine-pretending paladin.

Points if she is designed to look like "Evil Anduin"!

[Raetary]

the reason for them to not recognize eachother is a combination of age and Calia not using her real name when she was married to Bolvar who at the time was just a foot soldier

Calia never mentioned a secret identity when she told the story, you'd think she would mention such a rather important point.
Furthermore its very much implied he knew about her status, hence the secrecy around their relationship, the begging a priestess in secret to marry them and trying to get the child out of Lordaeron when she finally told her mother.

Even if Blizzard does take that route, Bolvar not recognizing her is one thing but she would absolutely recognize him by name alone.
And in that case, Calia stood right next to Taelia in Oribos.

If for whatever reason she wouldn't come out to Bolvar, surely she would say something when she meets Bolvars, and therefore her own, daughter?

[Skytotem]

Don't know why you'd come to this conclusion. I rather think the new map indicates that she's not coming back (for now) and instead something else happens to the Forsaken.
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Oh I forgot Khadgar returning. Seems quite weird, but I'm interested to see what this means for the next expansion.

Khadgars gonna get body snatched by a dreadlord

[Sondrelk]

So they'll get all the cool "personalized transformation" cosmetics that Druids have been asking after for years?

You know what will be especially funny?
Once SL is over and Shammies don't get more ghost wolf transformations despite the Soulshape NF ability proving it's trivial to make them whatever you want.

[Graden]

Khadgars gonna get body snatched by a dreadlord

Hopefully not a dreadlord but Khadgar sounded so...weird. I sensed something really diabolical for some reason.

[Super Dickmann]

So they'll get all the cool "personalized transformation" cosmetics that Druids have been asking after for years?

You know it. Tinkers will get all the robot skins they want.

@Sondrelk

If I ever touched shaman with a ten foot pole I'd be pretty depressed on the cosmetic field. Nowadays everyone can be something cool, like a hippo, whereas you're stuck with a wolf form who's first iteration is almost old enough to vote.

[Sondrelk]

Calia never mentioned a secret identity when she told the story, you'd think she would mention such a rather important point.
Furthermore its very much implied he knew about her status, hence the secrecy around their relationship, the begging a priestess in secret to marry them and trying to get the child out of Lordaeron when she finally told her mother.

Even if Blizzard does take that route, Bolvar not recognizing her is one thing but she would absolutely recognize him by name alone.
And in that case, Calia stood right next to Taelia in Oribos.

If for whatever reason she wouldn't come out to Bolvar, surely she would say something when she meets Bolvars, and therefore her own, daughter?

They also didnt really speak at all, and then Calia disappeared from the story completely. It's not unthinkable it was planned to have a big reveal somewhere in the story that just never ended up happening.

Until Calia and/or Bolvar state conclusively who the missing person is in their lives the obvious choice will always be that Talia is Calias daughter.

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You know it. Tinkers will get all the robot skins they want.
@Sondrelk

If I ever touched shaman with a ten foot pole I'd be pretty depressed on the cosmetic field. Nowadays everyone can be something cool, like a hippo, whereas you're stuck with a wolf form who's first iteration is almost old enough to vote.

I guess Blizzard has been slightly better in adding more Shammy transformations, but still extremely few considering.

One does have to wonder what will happen to all the Soulshape forms from SL after the expansion ends though. Sure they will still be useable in Shadowlands content, so there is that minor use. But compared to how incredibly varied and complex the Soulshape gathering minigame is I am kidna surprised we have not already gotten a toy or similar that let's us transform into any collected appearance.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

You know it. Tinkers will get all the robot skins they want.

@Sondrelk

If I ever touched shaman with a ten foot pole I'd be pretty depressed on the cosmetic field. Nowadays everyone can be something cool, like a hippo, whereas you're stuck with a wolf form who's first iteration is almost old enough to vote.

Shaman just needs to be torn down entirely.