Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Teriz]

The turret would shoot rockets
The totem does shoot fire

The Tinker can summon multiple turrets, the Shaman cannot. The Turrets are upgradeable, the totems are not. Again, you're talking about two completely different abilities.

You used warriors dragons roar which is essentially their shockwave ability to an actual dragon roar which has the same thing

Okay, then we can simply stick with the Mage and Druid draconic abilities. The point still stands; Dragonsworn are simply existing classes that have picked up draconic abilities due to their closeness to dragons.

You use a companion pet as a hint
Terky is now hinting at a murloc expansion

C'mon, you know that's not an equal example. Again, we have two mechanical dragons is close succession after an expansion that repeatedly hinted at technology and dragons.

Wrathion is hinting at undermine….ok

The reason I say subplot is because you said dragon isles and undermine which out of the two there’s one plot point that would be a subplot and why would we go to the dragon isles as the main if only one flight works with goblins compared to undermine being the side area in that situation.

Because the spearhead of us going to Dragon Isles is Wrathion; a Black Dragon. A Black Dragon who is trying to find the Dragon Isles but not getting help from other dragons, so the question is where does he turn to? Perhaps the very same Goblins that helped his ancestors in the past? The very same Goblins who are more than willing to bend over backwards if you put enough gold in their pockets? Heck, he could even be working with Gallywix.

Again, this is all speculation, but the clues appear to be pointing in that direction.

[PhillyCheese]

Someone pointed out that Khadgar's inclusion in 9.2.5 may be a direct reference to an Ilgynoth whisper.

The Lord of Ravens will turn the key.

Is there something in the Shadowlands that Khadgar could mess with that could lead into 10.0? I also don't think the Lord of Ravens is the Jailer (even though the Nine are referred to as Ravens in another whisper) as he didn't really turn any keys, unless that was referring to Zereth Mortis.

[Varx]

Yeah I'll be honest, I had a "wait, what" moment when reading that he's there. I actually do recall reading mention of him in the leadup to the patch itself but it was just a "oh hey he's here" thing and quickly forgotten at the time.

I have to admit, if there's anything to me that points to something Goblin related in the next expansion, it definitely is that.

Exactly, this is huge. Dude is as slimy as he is resilient.

Perhaps he'll make use of that cannon in azshara with Broker or first ones tech, can you imagine that?

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Wasn’t he essentially ousted after the war?

He escaped and somehow found his way into the shadowlands.

[Syegfryed]

Ion as sylvanas always crack me up, holy shit.

But ti feels like empire of dragons should not be there anymore.

No I mean Gallywix is literally in Tazavesh having a sit-down with brokers.

See, no one is talking about this and most people aren't even aware. This is huge. This guy is like an enormous loose end and now he's meeting with brokers, like he could be getting his hands on first ones tech from zereth mortis for all we know.

With his money and resources he's capable of anything.

And how the fuck did this guy even got there.

Going to the shadowlands wasn't supposed to be extremely hard, and only by icecrown with the veil broke, and then, with the portals the factions made with the people who wee already inside? am i missing something?

[Lady Atia]

Exactly, this is huge. Dude is as slimy as he is resilient.

Perhaps he'll make use of that cannon in azshara with Broker or first ones tech, can you imagine that?

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He escaped and somehow found his way into the shadowlands.

Since the cannon was Afrasiabis' idea, I'm quite sure they will never ever fire that thing just to spite him.

[PhillyCheese]

Between the name of the zone and her penchant for using giant water monsters, the endgame for the Bilgewater cannon is probably going to be shooting an invading Azshara. Maybe a new zone questline in a revamp?

[Fahrad Wagner]

This made my day.

[Varx]

Since the cannon was Afrasiabis' idea, I'm quite sure they will never ever fire that thing just to spite him.

Haha maybe, but still who needs a shitty cannon when you got a broker/ first ones super WMD.

[Cosmic Janitor]

He escaped and somehow found his way into the shadowlands.

Good to know that the sub Team Rocket level writing is already confirmed for the next expansion. Great..

[Varx]

Here you go for those who might be sceptical.

Boy if there was ever any doubt in my mind next expansion wasn't dragon isles with tinker, it's gone now...

I can't believe I spent all of 9.1 not knowing this.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Since the cannon was Afrasiabis' idea, I'm quite sure they will never ever fire that thing just to spite him.

The thing is one of the most idiotic ideas ever added to the story anyway, even worse than the stupid sword in silithus and the ICBM horde catapults in the war of thorns. That sword at least had the "uh, err, magic n stuff" going for it, the cannon is just pure distilled dumbassery. Just let them use rockets if they want to switch to long distance warfare.. instead if making up ICBPs that aim around half the planet.

[Varx]

We should add Gallywix to that hype train.

[draugril]

Boy if there was ever any doubt in my mind next expansion wasn't dragon isles with tinker, it's gone now...

I'm sure there was never a moment of doubt.

[PhillyCheese]

If Gallywix being in the Shadowlands is foreshadowing Tinkers, what is Ol Emma foreshadowing?

What about Griftah?

[Varx]

I'm sure there was never a moment of doubt.

You know me so well .

[Kiivar86]

What about Griftah?

Well we have been an expansion without a troll raid...

And Gallywix being in the Shadowlands is actually not that weird to me. He's got money, he's likely got a lot of things still stashed away, Brokers likely got in contact somehow (or he to them). Not hard.

[PhillyCheese]

Also, haven't seen any of the big dataminers mention it, but is there any new Living World stuff in the files as of 9.2.5?

[Varx]

If Gallywix being in the Shadowlands is foreshadowing Tinkers, what is Ol Emma foreshadowing?

What about Griftah?

You gonna compare the last standing member of sylvanas' entourage during BFA to random npcs.

This ain't like some nobody walking around oribos looking for their loved one.

We're talking about a maniac with vast amount of money and resources meeting up with morally questionable cosmic beings with super cosmic technology.

Look what he was able to accomplish by pioneering azerite. Now imagine he gets tech from zereth mortis.

[Raetary]

We should add Gallywix to that hype train.

[Pheraz]

Tbh this is a bit too much centered around dragons

Should have more lordaeron, Turalyon, Alleria, scarlet crusade