Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Ersula]

Can I propose an alternative topic/conversation to discuss? We spend so much time talking about what the next expansion could be in terms of theme, setting, potential new race(s) or class(es), etc. Here's my question: What do you absolutely NOT want for 10.0? You can answer this question however you want (story, class, race, systems, etc.). I'm curious.

• Housing. Just because adding big elements that don't affect gameplay usually hurt the overall fun of a specific expansion & they need all the help they can get. A dungeon builder feature would serve the same purpose & have bigger gameplay innovation.
• Necromancers. I want a new class & I love necromancers. But contrary to the pro-necromancer faction on this site, I think all the necrolord cosmetics fulfil my necromantic need.
• Class Skins. Just add more glyphs & transmog options please. It's the same thing.

[PhillyCheese]

I would enjoy a dragon expansion...but in new lands. A partial revamp might be okay...but not to have the whole expansion centered around new/old lands.

We’re out of undiscovered locations on the continents so the new areas would have to be islands. However with the “living world” stuff its looking like we may be able to fly to the new areas from the continents.

[Teriz]

Can I propose an alternative topic/conversation to discuss? We spend so much time talking about what the next expansion could be in terms of theme, setting, potential new race(s) or class(es), etc. Here's my question: What do you absolutely NOT want for 10.0? You can answer this question however you want (story, class, race, systems, etc.). I'm curious.

I don't want a Light vs Void expansion, or an Emerald Dream expansion. Further, while I want a more grounded expansion, I feel a Lordaeron expansion would be far too narrow a focus, and that other races and characters need focus.

[Rootsbum]

What in hoping for is a living breathing world again. Atm I feel like in some guy in the bushes watching a story unfold.
I want to see the catlady smashing boars to feed kittens, a group of dragons in humanoid-form doing something mysterious Behind a pile of timber I will never know the answer too.
A city overrun by thieves.
A satyr from Ardenweld fading into Azeroth, walking towards a lake and then fades out again.
A cave I cannot reach with children doing strange stuff

Kinda like the the old worldbuilding we also see in Zelda-games where alot is left to the fantasy, but still adds to the world.

[Santandame]

Can I propose an alternative topic/conversation to discuss? We spend so much time talking about what the next expansion could be in terms of theme, setting, potential new race(s) or class(es), etc. Here's my question: What do you absolutely NOT want for 10.0? You can answer this question however you want (story, class, race, systems, etc.). I'm curious.

I do NOT want(either yet or full stop):

Gardens of Life
K'Aresh
Dark Rangers
Other Zereth's (as much as I enjoyed playing Zereth Mortis for a week or two)
Lordaeron/Quel'Thalas revamp as the ONLY focus and landmass.

What I wouldn't mind:

Pre-Sundering Azeroth
Black Empire
Other Side of Azeroth
World Quests in old EK/Kalimdor zones
Tel'Abim
Undermine
Dragon Isles
Fourth Specs
Tinker
Bard
Dragonknight
A version of WoD but instead set on the Eastern Kingdoms with old alliance characters as the villains in place of the Warlords. There was a really cool concept a few years ago on this forum called the ''Dragon Kings of Azeroth'' which was a mock of WoD with Jaina going back in time and giving the old Human/Dwarf nations a macguffin(Dragon Soul?) which would be able to control the Dragon Aspects and channel their power. It had Arthas(Red), Antonidas(Blue), Galen Trollbane(Green), Magni(Black), Kael'Thas(Bronze). The idea was that Ironforge would have been the first raid too.

Here's the link for that - https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ngs-Of-Azeroth

What I absolutely WANT:

A FULL World Revamp
New Races
Class Skins
Player Housing
Evergreen open world content
A greater focus on Timewalking. More options, more rewards (cosmetic and player power). Timewalking constantly running, each week.
ALL Mythic+ dungeons relevant. I want Legion, BfA, and SL Mythic+ dungeons to always be in the dungeon pool. Hell, even go back and add WoD and MoP dungeons too with affixes and design around Mythic+. If you can't have that high a number, have them rotate a list of dungeons spread throughout the expansions monthly. For example. One dungeon set = The main 10.0 dungeons, Mists of Tirna Sicthe, Temple of Sethrallis, Black Rook Hold, Auchindoun, Stormstout Brewery.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Apologies if this has been brought up before but:

Audible.com Release Date April 26, 2022

Did this Audio Book exist prior or is this new? I'm gonna assume that this is an old audio book that shows up now in Audible.

https://www.amazon.com/Audible-World...dp/B09W4D2FZX/

[Calfredd]

• Housing. Just because adding big elements that don't affect gameplay usually hurt the overall fun of a specific expansion & they need all the help they can get. A dungeon builder feature would serve the same purpose & have bigger gameplay innovation.
• Necromancers. I want a new class & I love necromancers. But contrary to the pro-necromancer faction on this site, I think all the necrolord cosmetics fulfil my necromantic need.
• Class Skins. Just add more glyphs & transmog options please. It's the same thing.

I'd like to be able to use their spell effects; the color is very nice.

[Foolicious]

Did this Audio Book exist prior or is this new? I'm gonna assume that this is an old audio book that shows up now in Audible.

Yes. Its the story of galakrond and how the protodrakes where turned into dragons and aspects.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Yes. Its the story of galakrond and how the protodrakes where turned into dragons and aspects.

I mean was there an audiobook released with the book on release is what I am asking.

[Ielenia]

Don't want Sylvanas in another main cinematic.

Please god, no. I don't even want to see her walking down into the Oribos' center to jump into the Maw.

Don't want them to lock a possible class or core race behind a rep grind. (And don't want another expansion without a new core race or class)

The whole "locking behind rep grinds" was an allied-race-only thing, and I doubt it'd ever happen again. I doubt we'll ever see an expansion we'd see 4+ playable races being added mid-expansion.

Don't want every zone in the new area to be disconnected from each other like SL.

I don't really mind that much, to be honest, as long as the story is good.

Don't want to deal with any more large cosmic things, and would prefer things to be a bit more grounded. (Cosmic stuff happening in the background is ok.)

I don't mind having to deal with cosmic things... but we need a "grounded" expansion in-between comic threats. So, yeah, something on Azeroth for 10.0, focused and restricted to Azeroth only would be great.

Don't want actual playable dragons except maybe a flight form or mount like Tarecgosa/Vial of Sands.

I agree with no playable dragons, but a race like the dragonborn from D&D would be something nice, in my opinion.

[Teriz]

I do NOT want(either yet or full stop):

Gardens of Life
K'Aresh
Dark Rangers
Other Zereth's (as much as I enjoyed playing Zereth Mortis for a week or two)
Lordaeron/Quel'Thalas revamp as the ONLY focus and landmass.

What I wouldn't mind:

Pre-Sundering Azeroth
Black Empire
Other Side of Azeroth
World Quests in old EK/Kalimdor zones
Tel'Abim
Undermine
Dragon Isles
Fourth Specs
Tinker
Bard
Dragonknight
A version of WoD but instead set on the Eastern Kingdoms with old alliance characters as the villains in place of the Warlords. There was a really cool concept a few years ago on this forum called the ''Dragon Kings of Azeroth'' which was a mock of WoD with Jaina going back in time and giving the old Human/Dwarf nations a macguffin(Dragon Soul) which would be able to control the Dragon Aspects and channel their power. It had Arthas(Red), Antonidas(Blue), Galen Trollbane(Green), Magni(Black), Kael'Thas(Bronze). The idea was that Ironforge would have been the first raid too.

Here's the link for that - https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ngs-Of-Azeroth

What I absolutely WANT:

A FULL World Revamp
New Races
Class Skins
Player Housing
Evergreen open world content
A greater focus on Timewalking. More options, more rewards (cosmetic and player power). Timewalking constantly running, each week.
ALL Mythic+ dungeons relevant. I want Legion, BfA, and SL Mythic+ dungeons to always be in the dungeon pool. Hell, even go back and add WoD and MoP dungeons too with affixes and design around Mythic+. If you can't have that high a number, have them rotate a list of dungeons spread throughout the expansions monthly. For example. One dungeon set = The main 10.0 dungeons, Mists of Tirna Sicthe, Temple of Sethrallis, Black Rook Hold, Auchindoun, Stormstout Brewery.

Yeah, I think many players want an expansive expansion that focuses on Azeroth. I'm hoping for a MoP-style expansion where we take a "break" from defeating cosmic gods, and focus on more local problems. Hopefully, a new large landmass (preferably a continent) to explore from Warcraft lore, and a new (3-spec) class to sink our teeth into. Our brief discussion of Cataclysm 2.0 makes a lot of sense, and I really hope that's the direction Blizzard takes us in for 10.0.

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Please god, no. I don't even want to see her walking down into the Oribos' center to jump into the Maw.

Well look at that, we actually agree on something.

[Makorus]

I mean was there an audiobook released with the book on release is what I am asking.

Amazon.co.uk says "Audible.co.uk Release Date: 26 November 2013"

[Foolicious]

I mean was there an audiobook released with the book on release is what I am asking.

Misread the question then. But still a yes. The audiobook was released alongside the book in 2013. It's also on audible for years so it may be a mistake from amazon?

Edit: so apparently there is a new version releasing in april narrated by Adam James conner which is also an hour shorter than the original. No idea why they would rerelease that with a different narrator though.

[Polybius]

@Foolicious
@ForeignExchangeStudent

So apparently a series of dragon themed books are slated for reprint this year with the ‘Blizzard Legends Audio’ sticker.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blizzard_Legends

[Teriz]

@Foolicious
@ForeignExchangeStudent

So apparently a series of dragon themed books are slated for reprint this year with the ‘Blizzard Legends Audio’ sticker.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blizzard_Legends

Dragon Expansion?

Dragon Expansion.

[Nightshade711]

I agree with no playable dragons, but a race like the dragonborn from D&D would be something nice, in my opinion.

Agreed. It's about time we got a non-mammalian race in wow.

[Raetary]

@Foolicious
@ForeignExchangeStudent

So apparently a series of dragon themed books are slated for reprint this year with the ‘Blizzard Legends Audio’ sticker.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blizzard_Legends

If that doesn't scream dragon expansion then i don't know what does.

[Nightshade711]

@Foolicious
@ForeignExchangeStudent

So apparently a series of dragon themed books are slated for reprint this year with the ‘Blizzard Legends Audio’ sticker.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blizzard_Legends

If I'm understanding that correctly then it would also show that:
Various books involving the Legion were re-released before Legion and the Arthas book re-released before SL

[Teriz]

If I'm understanding that correctly then it would also show that:
Various books involving the Legion were re-released before Legion and the Arthas book re-released before SL

Arthas: Rise of the Lich King released in October 2019 right before the announcement of Shadowlands.

That's about it.

[Ielenia]

Dragon Expansion?

Dragon Expansion.

Cat expansion, actually, since we got a bundle of cats mounts/pets for sale right now in the store.