Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nightshade711]

Small thought I had.
If the dragon isles had one zone per dragonflight, I could very easily see them using something similar to the enemies we fought in the deaths of chromie for each dragonflight’s zone.

Green -> Satyrs/Emerald Nightmare remnants
Blue -> Void beings/old god cultists
Red -> Scourge
Black -> Nathrezim
Bronze would likely be infinite dragons.

[Vakir]

Living World is the big thing for 10.0 and I'm not sure if there any changes mentioning that in 9.2.5.

If they tightened up on that we can assume it may be a large feature they don't want to spoil.

We're not 100% on that either, though. LivingWorld could be an internal name for adding more flourishes and structure to things like weather, day/night cycles, etc. that influence perhaps mob spawns, events, etc. It's not necessarily guaranteed to be a major feature, though it could be.

If the dragon isles had one zone per dragonflight, I could very easily see them using something similar to the enemies we fought in the deaths of chromie for each dragonflight’s zone.

Come to think of it, did anything come of the Chromie death storyline?

[Marlamin]

Living World is the big thing for 10.0 and I'm not sure if there any changes mentioning that in 9.2.5.

If they tightened up on that we can assume it may be a large feature they don't want to spoil.

I checked, no changes in 9.2.5 to those animations.

We're not 100% on that either, though. LivingWorld could be an internal name for adding more flourishes and structure to things like weather, day/night cycles, etc. that influence perhaps mob spawns, events, etc. It's not necessarily guaranteed to be a major feature, though it could be.

Yup. Living World will end up making sense after the announcement, or be entirely irrelevant. Same goes for the encrypted shop bundle. Time will tell.

[Santandame]

I am genuinely curious.

If you aren't in the Cataclysm 2(Reverse Cataclysm) camp for 10.0; then what do YOU think is the next expansion and WHY do you think that specific theme.

I'm genuinely curious to see some reasoning and thoughts on this from those who aren't leaning towards Cataclysm 2. Bare in mind a theoretical Cataclysm 2 will very, very likely have a large dragon presence.

No cop out guys with "I've no idea what 10.0 is". Hit me with what you are leaning towards at this point.

[Raetary]

Come to think of it, did anything come of the Chromie death storyline?

Nope.
Still no idea who tried to kill her and why.

We just prevented her death and that's it.

[CopyX1982]

I am genuinely curious.

If you aren't in the Cataclysm 2(Reverse Cataclysm) camp for 10.0; then what do YOU think is the next expansion and WHY do you think that specific theme.

I'm genuinely curious to see some reasoning and thoughts on this from those who aren't leaning towards Cataclysm 2. Bare in mind a theoretical Cataclysm 2 will very, very likely have a large dragon presence.

No cop out guys with "I've no idea what 10.0 is". Hit me with what you are leaning towards at this point.

I think they were gonna go with more cosmic stuff, but then given how SL has been received changed to a more grounded expansion, maybe shifted 10.0 & 11.0 around? maybe 10.0 was more cosmic and 11.0 was more a homecoming? at this point who knows and the devs would NEVER say or admit to any change of course or anything.

Not sure about Dragons, I suppose thats most likely, but with Cata Kalimdor/EK existing longer than the Vanilla/TBC/WotLK one a total revamp could be on the cards too. Personally I just wanna know so we can stop speculating on what it could be and start talking about what it is.

[Arcinatoss]

I'm just hoping 10.0 is dragons with void/light themes as the actual big bad. Oh and give me a new class damn it.

[Luck4]

The Endless Dream
- Level 70
- Cross-facton grouping for all new content but not older stuff
- Two new races - Elarian and the Solline - they are very pale alien looking people and cat people who worship the sun
- 6 zones revamped - Hyjal (Alliance only), Lordaeron (Horde only), Silithus, Duskwood, Barrens, Hinterlands - although many other zones aren't updated but used as part of the story
- New dungeons will be very nostaglic - Wailing chasm, Tyr's Fall, Timbermaw depths, Moonbrook cellars, AQ dungeon, Maraudon and some others
- There's a dream world / living world type of element to all the zones which has to do with the Emerald Dream fading away after the events of the Shadowlands. The dream world is easily twisted by outside forces is seeping into the living world allowing them to create a new reality. The pantheon of the living are revealed to all be the myths and legends from the various races of Azeroth. They help you restore the dream piece by piece
- Alliance and Horde races reconnect with eachother - Dwarves help Tauren find their titan origin, humans and undead discover their ancestory and the sacred line of kings, trolls and night elves uncover the schism that Elune created and why some rejected her
- The end of Battle for Azeroth will be very important
- Raid is Elunaria but starts out on Azeroth's white moon in a titan facility, have to save Elune from forces of oblivion - Tyrande will die but is reborn as Elune's daughter and watch over Azeroth on the Blue Child

This leak keeps getting more and more interesting.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I am genuinely curious.

If you aren't in the Cataclysm 2(Reverse Cataclysm) camp for 10.0; then what do YOU think is the next expansion and WHY do you think that specific theme.

I'm genuinely curious to see some reasoning and thoughts on this from those who aren't leaning towards Cataclysm 2. Bare in mind a theoretical Cataclysm 2 will very, very likely have a large dragon presence.

No cop out guys with "I've no idea what 10.0 is". Hit me with what you are leaning towards at this point.

I think you may be spot-on, though I'm fairly certain that the main attraction is specifically going to be Lordaeron. I might well be making an ass of myself, since admittedly it is hard to imagine what could be the main villain or plotline unless we move to the Dragon Isles or something adjacent as the final patch, but I figure that they're building up that way. I have seen @Hitei making a good point that Blizzard has no reason to overhaul Tirisfal and add a new questline to Quel'Thalas if they're doing that, but I think that it's not that serious of an amount of new content, especially several months before we ever actually see the expansion proper. It seems like a fair amount of content for a buildup, though.

However, the real sticking point for me is the fact that we still have the datamined Dragon mount—I see no feasible connection between Lordaeron or Quel'Thalas and the Emerald Dream, which I do think is the most serious and crippling argument for the Lordaeron point—this is what's got me thinking that it does seem like it may just be a world revamp with the leveling experience leading up to Lordaeron and you're probably generally right. The Emerald Dragon mount definitely brings to mind an image of "regrowth", which would fit that.

However, if it's not a revamp of any kind, I suppose a good possibility is the Dragon Isles—it still seems odd it was mentioned out-of-nowhere by Wrathion in BfA, but that and the Exploring Kalimdor mention of it could've just been building up one of the new zones in the revamp.

[Hitei]

I am genuinely curious.

If you aren't in the Cataclysm 2(Reverse Cataclysm) camp for 10.0; then what do YOU think is the next expansion and WHY do you think that specific theme.

I'm genuinely curious to see some reasoning and thoughts on this from those who aren't leaning towards Cataclysm 2. Bare in mind a theoretical Cataclysm 2 will very, very likely have a large dragon presence.

No cop out guys with "I've no idea what 10.0 is". Hit me with what you are leaning towards at this point.

Dragon Isles seems likely. They're one of the few well-known and expected "continental" regions left unused. Blizzard seems to be signaling a step back from cosmic-level stuff, which is pretty expected given the heavy focus on it lately. Much like Pandaria was a shift from Wrath and BC's doom and gloom to mystery and discovery. I think we'll seem a similar shift from high end cosmic to classic fantasy here and nothing screams classic fantasy more than dragons.

There are plenty of hints, but "hints" in this context tends to just be whatever you personally choose to believe is evidence of a coming expansion, and there's "hints" for any expansion concept because there's always a bunch of small things going on unrelated to the main plot.

[Civciv]

Is it time for Azeroth to hatch? Wanna hear your thoughts.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I think they were gonna go with more cosmic stuff, but then given how SL has been received changed to a more grounded expansion, maybe shifted 10.0 & 11.0 around? maybe 10.0 was more cosmic and 11.0 was more a homecoming? at this point who knows and the devs would NEVER say or admit to any change of course or anything.

Not sure about Dragons, I suppose thats most likely, but with Cata Kalimdor/EK existing longer than the Vanilla/TBC/WotLK one a total revamp could be on the cards too. Personally I just wanna know so we can stop speculating on what it could be and start talking about what it is.

I don't think it's really possible to switch around the totality of an expansion so late in development. Keep in mind how slow development is for a WoW expansion.

[Revamp Man]

I'm just hoping 10.0 is dragons with void/light themes as the actual big bad. Oh and give me a new class damn it.

Idk about void and light but I’m certain we will have a conflict with Life

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Is it time for Azeroth to hatch? Wanna hear your thoughts.

I'd prefer for her not to. Could be a fine time to meet her, or at least get a bit of direct contact in some way, but I definitely think that her hatching sounds like the end of WoW, or at least the start of the final expansion.

[Vakir]

Nope.
Still no idea who tried to kill her and why.

We just prevented her death and that's it.

Infinites feel like the most obvious candidate but it also screams "prototype for smaller events with slow progression" rather than necessarily being a capital H hook.

[Nibelheimy]

So if Blizz added glyphs to alter spells in a way that fits better racially, what would be on everyone's wish list? I don't even play a tauren paladin or priest but man they really need some Anshe flavour in their abilities because the holy light just does not fit in with their version of the classes. And because I'm already thinking of tauren, I would kill for nature themed glyphs for my druid so that she can have hurricanes and vines and insects and greenery again =( I actually switched her to feral recently because I just can't jive with the astral/moon stuff on my tauren. It's great on my night elf but just so out of place with my poor cow!

Sun spells for tauren are also on my wishlist!

I'd love some moon spells for night elf priests and paladins if they ever come, also some blood knight spells for blood elf paladins.

Dark ranger spells for marksman undead, humans and elves + a skin if a dark ranger class will never truly happen.

Same for warlocks with a necromancer skin over, though that's a little bit more of a big ask I feel and would rather a new class. But would settle for a skin and a class name change.

I can't remember the post but a user on here compiled all of his ideas on this a few months or so ago with pictures and although I didn't agree with or like them all most of them were pretty good and an interesting read.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Infinites feel like the most obvious candidate but it also screams "prototype for smaller events with slow progression" rather than necessarily being a capital H hook.

We've actually got a few of these—we also never resolved the whole Ethereal invasion plot in Stormwind and Orgrimmar.

[Teriz]

Collector’s edition rewards yes
Dungeon boss eh
Ysera getting revived eh
Dragon pack when we have a cat pack
Anniversary pet eh

I’m gonna try to keep this short
The mechanical dragonling can’t be seen as a hint just because it’s an anniversary reward because we had a corgi reward as well

The dragon pack has a cat pack brother

We can’t deny that the collector’s edition is giving a drake mount

Now I do want dragon isles but I’m not going to call everything a hint

Again, take those clues and add them to BFA's Dragon clues;

+Alexstraza vs Vexonia at Vermillion Redoubt
+The Dragon Flights empowering the Heart of Azeroth
+Vexonia ushering in a new dragonflight (Voidwing)
+Dragons on Island Expeditions
+Wrathion's return
+Dragon Isles mentioned for first time in lore
+Wrathion: The Black Emperor fight
+Clutch of Voidwing eggs found inside N'zoth
+Uncorrupted Voidwing Mount (Void Dragon)
+Steamscale Incinerator Mount (Mech Dragon)

And that's why people think something based on dragons is next.

[draugril]

Is it time for Azeroth to hatch? Wanna hear your thoughts.

Yes.

I don't think it a particularly interesting plot, but I'm just so tired of cliffhangers that don't get resolved for a decade or so. Just deal with it and move on. Come up with new mysteries instead of dangling the same ones in front of us for eternity.

[PhillyCheese]

I think the Cat and Phoenix mounts were the hints. They came out about the right time to be recolored new assets.

If An'she and Elune help us regrow on Azeroth it makes sense for sun and moon animals to pop up.