Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Civciv]

Is it time for Azeroth to hatch? Wanna hear your thoughts.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I think they were gonna go with more cosmic stuff, but then given how SL has been received changed to a more grounded expansion, maybe shifted 10.0 & 11.0 around? maybe 10.0 was more cosmic and 11.0 was more a homecoming? at this point who knows and the devs would NEVER say or admit to any change of course or anything.

Not sure about Dragons, I suppose thats most likely, but with Cata Kalimdor/EK existing longer than the Vanilla/TBC/WotLK one a total revamp could be on the cards too. Personally I just wanna know so we can stop speculating on what it could be and start talking about what it is.

I don't think it's really possible to switch around the totality of an expansion so late in development. Keep in mind how slow development is for a WoW expansion.

[Revamp Man]

I'm just hoping 10.0 is dragons with void/light themes as the actual big bad. Oh and give me a new class damn it.

Idk about void and light but I’m certain we will have a conflict with Life

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Is it time for Azeroth to hatch? Wanna hear your thoughts.

I'd prefer for her not to. Could be a fine time to meet her, or at least get a bit of direct contact in some way, but I definitely think that her hatching sounds like the end of WoW, or at least the start of the final expansion.

[Vakir]

Nope.
Still no idea who tried to kill her and why.

We just prevented her death and that's it.

Infinites feel like the most obvious candidate but it also screams "prototype for smaller events with slow progression" rather than necessarily being a capital H hook.

[Nibelheimy]

So if Blizz added glyphs to alter spells in a way that fits better racially, what would be on everyone's wish list? I don't even play a tauren paladin or priest but man they really need some Anshe flavour in their abilities because the holy light just does not fit in with their version of the classes. And because I'm already thinking of tauren, I would kill for nature themed glyphs for my druid so that she can have hurricanes and vines and insects and greenery again =( I actually switched her to feral recently because I just can't jive with the astral/moon stuff on my tauren. It's great on my night elf but just so out of place with my poor cow!

Sun spells for tauren are also on my wishlist!

I'd love some moon spells for night elf priests and paladins if they ever come, also some blood knight spells for blood elf paladins.

Dark ranger spells for marksman undead, humans and elves + a skin if a dark ranger class will never truly happen.

Same for warlocks with a necromancer skin over, though that's a little bit more of a big ask I feel and would rather a new class. But would settle for a skin and a class name change.

I can't remember the post but a user on here compiled all of his ideas on this a few months or so ago with pictures and although I didn't agree with or like them all most of them were pretty good and an interesting read.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Infinites feel like the most obvious candidate but it also screams "prototype for smaller events with slow progression" rather than necessarily being a capital H hook.

We've actually got a few of these—we also never resolved the whole Ethereal invasion plot in Stormwind and Orgrimmar.

[Teriz]

Collector’s edition rewards yes
Dungeon boss eh
Ysera getting revived eh
Dragon pack when we have a cat pack
Anniversary pet eh

I’m gonna try to keep this short
The mechanical dragonling can’t be seen as a hint just because it’s an anniversary reward because we had a corgi reward as well

The dragon pack has a cat pack brother

We can’t deny that the collector’s edition is giving a drake mount

Now I do want dragon isles but I’m not going to call everything a hint

Again, take those clues and add them to BFA's Dragon clues;

+Alexstraza vs Vexonia at Vermillion Redoubt
+The Dragon Flights empowering the Heart of Azeroth
+Vexonia ushering in a new dragonflight (Voidwing)
+Dragons on Island Expeditions
+Wrathion's return
+Dragon Isles mentioned for first time in lore
+Wrathion: The Black Emperor fight
+Clutch of Voidwing eggs found inside N'zoth
+Uncorrupted Voidwing Mount (Void Dragon)
+Steamscale Incinerator Mount (Mech Dragon)

And that's why people think something based on dragons is next.

[draugril]

Is it time for Azeroth to hatch? Wanna hear your thoughts.

Yes.

I don't think it a particularly interesting plot, but I'm just so tired of cliffhangers that don't get resolved for a decade or so. Just deal with it and move on. Come up with new mysteries instead of dangling the same ones in front of us for eternity.

[PhillyCheese]

I think the Cat and Phoenix mounts were the hints. They came out about the right time to be recolored new assets.

If An'she and Elune help us regrow on Azeroth it makes sense for sun and moon animals to pop up.

[Sondrelk]

I think the Cat and Phoenix mounts were the hints. They came out about the right time to be recolored new assets.

Saying it's a hint is being generous with those kinds of mounts though. The Legion one was probably the only where there was a clear logical outcome your could take from it, being a Nightsaber (Night Elf) and Arcane. More often the mount is more confusing the more you look at it, like the Vulpin seeming like it was ice themed.

All we can know for sure is that somewhere in 10.0 we will see enemies who use the same model as the mounts, just without the armor.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Yes.

I don't think it a particularly interesting plot, but I'm just so tired of cliffhangers that don't get resolved for a decade or so. Just deal with it and move on. Come up with new mysteries instead of dangling the same ones in front of us for eternity.

Doesn't that inherently suggest the destruction of the setting, or at least a major hook to push us to more cosmic plots?

[Raetary]

I think the Cat and Phoenix mounts were the hints. They came out about the right time to be recolored new assets.

Those 2, including the faery dragon pet and celestial mog (emerald drake), are the reason why i think Life is gonna be a major theme alongside dragons.
They are too Lunar/Solar themed for it not to be, if we take them as direct hints.

[PhillyCheese]

Saying it's a hint is being generous with those kinds of mounts though. The Legion one was probably the only where there was a clear logical outcome your could take from it, being a Nightsaber (Night Elf) and Arcane. More often the mount is more confusing the more you look at it, like the Vulpin seeming like it was ice themed.

All we can know for sure is that somewhere in 10.0 we will see enemies who use the same model as the mounts, just without the armor.

Considering that we know its on Azeroth, but there aren't pheonixes and giant cats there, they will likely be from Dragon Isles.

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Those 2, including the faery dragon pet and celestial mog, are the reason why i think Life is gonna be a major theme alongside dragons.
They are too Lunar/Solar themed for it not to be, if we take them as direct hints.

It also fits the reverse Cataclysm theme of rebirth if Life (and Light, probably with the Scarlets/Turalyon) are the main themes next to the dragons this time.

So instead of Elements + Destructive Dragon it would be Constructive Dragon(s) + Life and Light.

[Catastrophy349]

Conversation Shift:

Aside from the Setting (we've been discussing this one forever), what would you like to see in the Cinematic AND Features Trailer?

Personally, I LOVED the Shadowlands Cinematic but didn't care for the "barebones" features trailer. IF Dragons are coming (teehee), I would love an awesome cinematic similar to how Pandaria was unveiled from its mists. If the Dragon Isles are floating, hidden, or from another time (Bronze Dragon influence), it would be really cool to see a cinematic showing some of that. As for the features trailer, I want to see more than dungeons and raid, new level cap, etc. Show us cool new features, progression systems tied LESS to borrowed power, something NEW/creative, please!

What are your thoughts??

[Vakir]

We've actually got a few of these—we also never resolved the whole Ethereal invasion plot in Stormwind and Orgrimmar.

I don't even remember that for the life of me. I believe you, but it's such a blur how many points are dropped awkwa

What are your thoughts??

The literal bare minimum is "don't waste my motherfucking time by sharing new zones individually like in SL's."

They had nothing and they knew it. "New Zone: Revendreth" is not a selling point. It's a base expectation.

[PhillyCheese]

Conversation Shift:

Aside from the Setting (we've been discussing this one forever), what would you like to see in the Cinematic AND Features Trailer?

Personally, I LOVED the Shadowlands Cinematic but didn't care for the "barebones" features trailer. IF Dragons are coming (teehee), I would love an awesome cinematic similar to how Pandaria was unveiled from its mists. If the Dragon Isles are floating, hidden, or from another time (Bronze Dragon influence), it would be really cool to see a cinematic showing some of that. As for the features trailer, I want to see more than dungeons and raid, new level cap, etc. Show us cool new features, progression systems tied LESS to borrowed power, something NEW/creative, please!

What are your thoughts??

Cinematic for a revamp should be something like classic's that shows the various biomes being restored and races doing their racial stuff there, then ending on the Dragon Isles if they are the setting and showing them reveal from the clouds.

Features should show revamped zones and/or housing if it's included, and THEN the power systems.

[Teriz]

I think the Cat and Phoenix mounts were the hints. They came out about the right time to be recolored new assets.

The cat is probably just a beast you run across in one of the new zones.

[Darkarath]

Shadowlands' features trailer was pathetic. For 10.0 features trailer I am expecting at least the following points:

- New class.
- New race / class combos.
- New continent / revamped world + new zones.
- New talent system / progression system.
- New (something related to proffesions).
- New side system (secondary activity like Pet Battle System).
- New Torghast like dungeon / new type of dungeon.

That is for the trailer but I expect huge changes across the board. An expansion as good as Legion will not save the game in the long-term if WoW is not simpler and easier to start on as a new player.

[PhillyCheese]

The cat is probably just a beast you run across in one of the new zones.

Sure, but it has some pretty interesting implications for the setting.

Most people have considered Dragon Isles to be "One Zone Per Flight" but a sun themed kitty doesn't really fit that.