Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Sondrelk]

I think the Cat and Phoenix mounts were the hints. They came out about the right time to be recolored new assets.

Saying it's a hint is being generous with those kinds of mounts though. The Legion one was probably the only where there was a clear logical outcome your could take from it, being a Nightsaber (Night Elf) and Arcane. More often the mount is more confusing the more you look at it, like the Vulpin seeming like it was ice themed.

All we can know for sure is that somewhere in 10.0 we will see enemies who use the same model as the mounts, just without the armor.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Yes.

I don't think it a particularly interesting plot, but I'm just so tired of cliffhangers that don't get resolved for a decade or so. Just deal with it and move on. Come up with new mysteries instead of dangling the same ones in front of us for eternity.

Doesn't that inherently suggest the destruction of the setting, or at least a major hook to push us to more cosmic plots?

[Raetary]

I think the Cat and Phoenix mounts were the hints. They came out about the right time to be recolored new assets.

Those 2, including the faery dragon pet and celestial mog (emerald drake), are the reason why i think Life is gonna be a major theme alongside dragons.
They are too Lunar/Solar themed for it not to be, if we take them as direct hints.

[PhillyCheese]

Saying it's a hint is being generous with those kinds of mounts though. The Legion one was probably the only where there was a clear logical outcome your could take from it, being a Nightsaber (Night Elf) and Arcane. More often the mount is more confusing the more you look at it, like the Vulpin seeming like it was ice themed.

All we can know for sure is that somewhere in 10.0 we will see enemies who use the same model as the mounts, just without the armor.

Considering that we know its on Azeroth, but there aren't pheonixes and giant cats there, they will likely be from Dragon Isles.

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Those 2, including the faery dragon pet and celestial mog, are the reason why i think Life is gonna be a major theme alongside dragons.
They are too Lunar/Solar themed for it not to be, if we take them as direct hints.

It also fits the reverse Cataclysm theme of rebirth if Life (and Light, probably with the Scarlets/Turalyon) are the main themes next to the dragons this time.

So instead of Elements + Destructive Dragon it would be Constructive Dragon(s) + Life and Light.

[Catastrophy349]

Conversation Shift:

Aside from the Setting (we've been discussing this one forever), what would you like to see in the Cinematic AND Features Trailer?

Personally, I LOVED the Shadowlands Cinematic but didn't care for the "barebones" features trailer. IF Dragons are coming (teehee), I would love an awesome cinematic similar to how Pandaria was unveiled from its mists. If the Dragon Isles are floating, hidden, or from another time (Bronze Dragon influence), it would be really cool to see a cinematic showing some of that. As for the features trailer, I want to see more than dungeons and raid, new level cap, etc. Show us cool new features, progression systems tied LESS to borrowed power, something NEW/creative, please!

What are your thoughts??

[Vakir]

We've actually got a few of these—we also never resolved the whole Ethereal invasion plot in Stormwind and Orgrimmar.

I don't even remember that for the life of me. I believe you, but it's such a blur how many points are dropped awkwa

What are your thoughts??

The literal bare minimum is "don't waste my motherfucking time by sharing new zones individually like in SL's."

They had nothing and they knew it. "New Zone: Revendreth" is not a selling point. It's a base expectation.

[PhillyCheese]

Conversation Shift:

Aside from the Setting (we've been discussing this one forever), what would you like to see in the Cinematic AND Features Trailer?

Personally, I LOVED the Shadowlands Cinematic but didn't care for the "barebones" features trailer. IF Dragons are coming (teehee), I would love an awesome cinematic similar to how Pandaria was unveiled from its mists. If the Dragon Isles are floating, hidden, or from another time (Bronze Dragon influence), it would be really cool to see a cinematic showing some of that. As for the features trailer, I want to see more than dungeons and raid, new level cap, etc. Show us cool new features, progression systems tied LESS to borrowed power, something NEW/creative, please!

What are your thoughts??

Cinematic for a revamp should be something like classic's that shows the various biomes being restored and races doing their racial stuff there, then ending on the Dragon Isles if they are the setting and showing them reveal from the clouds.

Features should show revamped zones and/or housing if it's included, and THEN the power systems.

[Teriz]

I think the Cat and Phoenix mounts were the hints. They came out about the right time to be recolored new assets.

The cat is probably just a beast you run across in one of the new zones.

[Darkarath]

Shadowlands' features trailer was pathetic. For 10.0 features trailer I am expecting at least the following points:

- New class.
- New race / class combos.
- New continent / revamped world + new zones.
- New talent system / progression system.
- New (something related to proffesions).
- New side system (secondary activity like Pet Battle System).
- New Torghast like dungeon / new type of dungeon.

That is for the trailer but I expect huge changes across the board. An expansion as good as Legion will not save the game in the long-term if WoW is not simpler and easier to start on as a new player.

[PhillyCheese]

The cat is probably just a beast you run across in one of the new zones.

Sure, but it has some pretty interesting implications for the setting.

Most people have considered Dragon Isles to be "One Zone Per Flight" but a sun themed kitty doesn't really fit that.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Is it time for Azeroth to hatch? Wanna hear your thoughts.

CRACK THAT EGG! Goddamnit!

Sure, but it has some pretty interesting implications for the setting.

Most people have considered Dragon Isles to be "One Zone Per Flight" but a sun themed kitty doesn't really fit that.

It would actually fit a Red Dragonflight forest zone pretty well, the cat itself is reminiscent of Alexstrasza to some extent.

[PhillyCheese]

It would actually fit a Red Dragonflight forest pretty well, the cat itself is reminiscent of Alexstrasza to some extent.

Not only is that a good point, but it makes me realize they may reuse red trees from a Red Dragonflight zone for Quel'thalas.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Shadowlands' features trailer was pathetic. For 10.0 features trailer I am expecting at least the following points:

- New class.
- New race / class combos.
- New continent / revamped world + new zones.
- New talent system / progression system.
- New (something related to proffesions).
- New side system (secondary activity like Pet Battle System).
- New Torghast like dungeon / new type of dungeon.

That is for the trailer but I expect huge changes across the board. An expansion as good as Legion will not save the game in the long-term if WoW is not simpler and easier to start on as a new player.

That would make me really reaaaaaally happy.

Not only is that a good point, but it makes me realize they may reuse red trees from a Red Dragonflight zone for Quel'thalas.

That... is a very fair point.

[Raetary]

Conversation Shift:

Aside from the Setting (we've been discussing this one forever), what would you like to see in the Cinematic trailer?

Wrathion gives a speech, cinematic starts out with showcasing each Aspect and Dragonflight, eventually we get a shot of Wyrmrest or Blackrock and the cinematic starts to mirror cataclysms.
Wrathion, in Dragon form, pops up from Behind whatever structure is being showcased and flies around the world.
Eventually reaches the Dragon Isles and lands in a similar way as Deathwing did in Stormwind, he contrasts Deathwing by giving a one liner about renewal and the camera shifts to the Dragon isles and showcases a bunch of (hopefully floating) Isles with a ton of Dragons flying about.

Basically Cataclysm but *happy* with a Pandaria twist at the end.

The feature trailer is the same odl

[Revamp Man]

Again, take those clues and add them to BFA's Dragon clues;

+Alexstraza vs Vexonia at Vermillion Redoubt
+The Dragon Flights empowering the Heart of Azeroth
+Vexonia ushering in a new dragonflight (Voidwing)
+Dragons on Island Expeditions
+Wrathion's return
+Dragon Isles mentioned for first time in lore
+Wrathion: The Black Emperor fight
+Clutch of Voidwing eggs found inside N'zoth
+Uncorrupted Voidwing Mount (Void Dragon)
+Steamscale Incinerator Mount (Mech Dragon)

And that's why people think something based on dragons is next.

BfA isn’t SL

Why not use cata for hints

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I think the Cat and Phoenix mounts were the hints. They came out about the right time to be recolored new assets.

Especially when you add in the whisper and the recent focus on the eternal sun

[Luck4]

Those 2, including the faery dragon pet and celestial mog (emerald drake), are the reason why i think Life is gonna be a major theme alongside dragons.
They are too Lunar/Solar themed for it not to be, if we take them as direct hints.

After what is being datamined in 9.2.5, alongside previous hints, I'm not expecting to see Dragon Isles as the major plot, yet I can still see it as a patch or a couple of zones.

[KayRule]

BfA isn’t SL

Why not use cata for hints

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Especially when you add in the whisper and the recent focus on the eternal sun

Legion hints started in MoP.

Shadowlands hints started in Legion.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Ya, they seem to be pointing at something night/day themed to me, possibly Elfy. I think Elune being a robot is going to be a big deal, but if not, we will still have the Night Else getting their new home.

Also, the Phoenix has a red color waiting to be released somehow, that goes with our blue one, I believe according to Wowhead.

And let's not forget the description for the phoenix: "These brilliant blue birds burn brighter (and hotter) than their orange cousins, though the origin of both remains a mystery.". Meaning, we're in still in the "sun/warm/fire" theme, similar to the Furline mount.

[Teriz]

It would actually fit a Red Dragonflight forest zone pretty well, the cat itself is reminiscent of Alexstrasza to some extent.

Yup, beat me to it.

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BfA isn’t SL

Why not use cata for hints

Here's a hint for MoP that popped up in WotLK;

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Pan...andaren%20Monk.

[Grimbold21]

If it's Dragons and somehow related to the healing Azeroth schtick, then Earth Warden shamans is a must.