Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Syegfryed]

And Tauren are already further away from Humanoid than Tuskarr.

they aren't, but minotaurs are more appealing than derp walrus people.

Hell even taurens are not that popular either

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The thing I look at when it comes to the Mechagnomes is what concept they bring to the table, as opposed to the gnomes that are playable since the game's launch. The original gnomes bring a theme of engineering, mechanical prowess and ingenuity with them, which is the same theme that Mechagnomes have. Mechagnome should've been a customization option for standard gnomes, with different limbs being replaced by robotic parts. It absolutely makes sense for the gnomes we already have.

Same for maghar orcs.

Blizzard just ruined the "allied race/subrace" thing with their tentative of monetization.

This is why I think that the Mechagnomes are one of the worst additions to the game, who could've been implemented as a customization option for gnomes and nobody would tell the difference. It is simply lazy to implement races like this.

That is basically the same for HM taurens and LF draenei, but its blizzard, they had to sell as different races.

[Nymrohd]

they aren't, but minotaurs are more appealing than derp walrus people.

Hell even taurens are not that popular either

Do you really want to appeal to popularity for your arguments? Cause then we'd just be left with different flavors of elves

[Syegfryed]

Oh absolutely they need new Loading Screens. Granted, whichever leveling path they pick will be super weird anyway due to random characters being there who later aren't. BUT for current time, as in post-SL.

Kalimdor still has both Gallywix and Vol'Jin on them. EK has freakin Varian, along with Sylvanas on. Yep, that needs to change.

i hope they just go back to use the general portray of races and not the leaders anymore

fuck the current leaders, they are among the worst. i don't want calia in the loadscreen thank you

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Do you really want to appeal to popularity for your arguments? Cause then we'd just be left with different flavors of elves

you mean like the last two they put in? yeaaaah

If they rly didn't care for the generic appeal, other races would be already in the game long ago.

[huth]

they aren't, but minotaurs are more appealing than derp walrus people.

Hell even taurens are not that popular either

They are. Tauren have hooves and less human body builds than Tuskarr.

And if anything, we need less humanoid races anyway, not more. We already have enough of those.

[PhillyCheese]

They are. Tauren have hooves and less human body builds than Tuskarr.

And if anything, we need less humanoid races anyway, not more. We already have enough of those.

If the popularity of Zandalari and Void Elves are any indication, people much prefer humanoids. Have you heard of a game called XIV? Aesthetically, most of the races are humans with different headbands on (cat, rabbit etc) and they are beloved.

I would love things like Naga but I'm not sure they would be as popular as, say, a Naga with legs.

All things considered however, I think Forsaken will get an upright customization that will make them very popular, as they are thinner "more normal" looking than regular human males. Calia gives them a kingdom, upright makes them look more normal, boom: Horde has a REAL human stand-in instead of Blood Elves.

[Syegfryed]

They are. Tauren have hooves and less human body builds than Tuskarr.

Again, taurens are still minotaurs, immensely more popular in fantasy than derp walrus people.

And if anything, we need less humanoid races anyway, not more. We already have enough of those.

We do need those, there is plenty of options, will we ever get then? not rly, not if they do not have an appealing look, that is the sad truth.

[Revamp Man]

If we do dragons I’m seeing new torghast being chromie sending us to other times

[PhillyCheese]

If we do dragons I’m seeing new torghast being chromie sending us to other times

I'm not sure the new system(s) will be gameplay focused. Everything but M+ has been a miss, they may be better off just doing housing.

This game is trending towards less gameplay focus. Fans seem to care less and less about it.

[huth]

Again, taurens are still minotaurs, immensely more popular in fantasy than derp walrus people.

No, they're not. The Minotaurus was human (not humanoid) with a bullhead. Also, [citation needed].

[Raxacorico]

If we do dragons I’m seeing new torghast being chromie sending us to other times

I would love something like that, where every "floor" is a different biome or time. Not like torghast which was always the same spiky spikes with a touch of spikes on the sides.

[Sondrelk]

I'm not sure the new system(s) will be gameplay focused. Everything but M+ has been a miss, they may be better off just doing housing.

This game is trending towards less gameplay focus. Fans seem to care less and less about it.

On the contrary I would say the problem with Torghast and Islands before it was that it gave tangible benefits to the core gameplay experience, rather than being an extraneous activity on the side.

The next Torghast equivalent just needs to provide ample cosmetics, and no player power that can be taken into raids, M+ or PvP.
At that point it also has the benefit of not needing to be designed as an activity everyone is expected to do, which in turn means it can be tuned quite high, giving players a more meaty challenge that still gives commensurate rewards.

[Alanar]

i give two shits about what became and what don't became playable, as long isn't elves.

Im just saying isn't going to happen. Wow races are close to humanoid as possible, the females look "hot and appealing", this is how they do stuff, and walrus derp-looking people will not gonna make it, when they can make another elf.

Your opinion is as strong as everyone else. Your word is not a fact. Stop being so hostile on every person who is dissagreeing with you.

Walrus people can happen like orges or what ever.

Its funny when gil goblins are still morw derpy then tuskar.
Funny how opinions work right?

[huth]

On the contrary I would say the problem with Torghast and Islands before it was that it gave tangible benefits to the core gameplay experience, rather than being an extraneous activity on the side.

The next Torghast equivalent just needs to provide ample cosmetics, and no player power that can be taken into raids, M+ or PvP.
At that point it also has the benefit of not needing to be designed as an activity everyone is expected to do, which in turn means it can be tuned quite high, giving players a more meaty challenge that still gives commensurate rewards.

I think Torghast would be fine if it gave the same power options as M+ and Raiding (at comparable difficulties), rather than exclusive ones.

[Alanar]

No, they're not. The Minotaurus was human (not humanoid) with a bullhead. Also, [citation needed].

I would have a hard time if I have to rp as a minotaur when playing tauren. My god.

[Syegfryed]

No, they're not. The Minotaurus was human (not humanoid) with a bullhead. Also, [citation needed].

there is different representations of a minotaur across media, and yes, they are very popular among many fantasy stories.

Try to tell me how many stories feature walrus people and how much they are popular and we can talk later.

Your opinion is as strong as everyone else. Your word is not a fact. Stop being so hostile on every person who is dissagreeing with you.

Walrus people can happen like orges or what ever.

Its funny when gil goblins are still morw derpy then tuskar.
Funny how opinions work right?

saying something will not going to happen is not being "hostile", you take the statement how you like it.

[Dracullus]

Torghast (as type of content, not tower of course) is not bad idea at all. It just need 3 things:

- diverse environment, every 'wing' is completely different biome, so more Argus invasion/BfA islands, not evil tower take #5
- being completely out of gearing/progression system (but not 'outside' game like let's say Death of Chromie - gear matters like in Legion Mage Tower)
- LOT of cosmetic rewards (basically islands reward system).

[The Stormbringer]

Y'all have the wrong arguments. The real question you should be asking yourself is this:

"Which race would have the most masculine dude-bro males and the most sexy waifu-able females?"

That is what Blizzard will make next.

[Alanar]

there is different representations of a minotaur across media, and yes, they are very popular among many fantasy stories.

Try to tell me how many stories feature walrus people and how much they are popular and we can talk later.



saying something will not going to happen is not being "hostile", you take the statement how you like it.

Anyway, point still stand. Just saying no, because opinion isnt going to bring you any further here.

Its pretty obvious your judgement is on a wotlk model, which would obviously be updated if they decide to make it playable. They are as humanoid as pandas. I see no good reason from you, besides the word derp and no.

I mean...

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Y'all have the wrong arguments. The real question you should be asking yourself is this:

"Which race would have the most masculine dude-bro males and the most sexy waifu-able females?"

That is what Blizzard will make next.

Looking at your sig, makes me think you are serious.

[Syegfryed]

Anyway, point still stand. Just saying no, because opinion isnt going to bring you any further here.

Its pretty obvious your judgement is on a wotlk model, which would obviously be updated if they decide to make it playable. They are as humanoid as pandas. I see no good reason from you, besides the word derp and no.

I mean...

pandas are immensely more popular than walrus dude, like, rly, its not even a contest, there is countless of better and more asked anthromorphic races that would get a spot first than a walrus, they are even more immense than pandas, they are just not that appealing, like tortolans will not be playable either.

Like, you can't tel one setting that actually feature walrusfolk. there is even elephantfolk but there isn't walrus.

We will get things like a catfolk first, with the females will be much more appealing to the general public.

This is not rly "my reasons", like i said, i would not care if they became playable, i just have enough awareness to know how blizzard add races, otherwise they would not need to retcon draeneis to make then playable.

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Looking at your sig, makes me think you are serious.

They are not wrong? that is the blizzard policy when adding playable races, they don't stray from that theme that much.

[draugril]

pandas are immensely more popular than walrus dude, like, rly, its not even a contest, there is countless of better and more asked anthromorphic races that would get a spot first than a walrus, they are even more immense than pandas, they are just not that appealing, like tortolans will not be playable either.

Like, you can't tel one setting that actually feature walrusfolk. there is even elephantfolk but there isn't walrus.

We will get things like a catfolk first, with the females will be much more appealing to the general public.

This is not rly "my reasons", like i said, i would not care if they became playable, i just have enough awareness to know how blizzard add races, otherwise they would not need to retcon draeneis to make then playable.

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They are not wrong? that is the blizzard policy when adding playable races, they don't stray from that theme that much.

I say that we should leave the furred races behind entirely. Let's get something with scales or feathers!