Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[PhillyCheese]

Found one with Bolvar and Tirion, ring of transferrence.

The scourge roams leaderless, the mightiest ones are fighting for supremacy like warlords. The Ebon Blade must remain vigilant. Azeroth may never truly be rid of the scourge, but the Ebon Blade will keep them in check. Ebon Blade will safeguard ICC (currently absent but a "seat of dark power"... Azshara?) and Darion tells Bolvar to stay with Taelia.

edit: They sound the same...

[Fahrad Wagner]

Found one with Bolvar and Tirion, ring of transferrence.

The scourge roams leaderless, the mightiest ones are fighting for supremacy like warlords. The Ebon Blade must remain vigilant. Azeroth may never truly be rid of the scourge, but the Ebon Blade will keep them in check. Ebon Blade will safeguard ICC (currently absent but a "seat of dark power"... Azshara?) and Tirion tells Bolvar to stay with Taelia.

I think you mean Darion bud

[Khaza-R]

Dialogs I have found:

(Right after the judgement)
Alleria/Vereesa: blah blah our sister is being good again yaaay

(In Arbiter chamber, you can talk to the main attendant to go there)
Genn/Anduin: Genn doesn't blame Anduin, Anduin thinks he should have been stronger. Leaves the Alliance in Turalyon's hands. Genn accepts it and tells him to come home when ready.

Pelagos/Kleia: Pelagos thinks the Maw is too steep a punishment and will not send any more souls there. (!!) Also will listen to where spirits want to go.

Baine/Lor'themar: Lor askes Baine if he wants to seek one last conversation, Baine does not wish to seek out his father (lol). His spirit is always with him. Lor wants to speak with Kael'thas.

Still looking for Calia and Voss.

Kael'thas and Lorthemar would be really interesting dialogue.

As for Cairne, don't you see him in the Tauren heritage questline? No reason to seek him out.

Hoping we could see some Calia / Terenas story. Perhaps giving her character some actual purpose for once.

[draugril]

I have a problem with Tyrande's judgement... Wouldn't it make sense to send more than a single person to the Maw to retrieve the souls of her people? Imagine being the last Night Elf that Sylvanas finds potentially thousands of years later, if not longer. I get that the punishment fits the crime, so to speak, but in the meantime... all those souls are suffering much longer than they would otherwise need to.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Found one with Bolvar and Darion, ring of transferrence.

The scourge roams leaderless, the mightiest ones are fighting for supremacy like warlords. The Ebon Blade must remain vigilant. Azeroth may never truly be rid of the scourge, but the Ebon Blade will keep them in check. Ebon Blade will safeguard ICC (currently absent but a "seat of dark power"... Azshara?) and Darion tells Bolvar to stay with Taelia.

edit: They sound the same...

That's great and all but I'd just like to hear about Redridge. Apparently in the Kyrian campaign Lakeshire is all but wiped off the map by the scourge, yet here it sounds like the worst that's happening is the Plaguelands might be back to being Plaguelandey.

[PhillyCheese]

I have a problem with Tyrande's judgement... Wouldn't it make sense to send more than a single person to the Maw to retrieve the souls of her people? Imagine being the last Night Elf that Sylvanas finds potentially thousands of years later, if not longer. I get that the punishment fits the crime, so to speak, but in the meantime... all those souls are suffering much longer than they would otherwise need to.

Logically it would make more sense to send some dark rangers/ex-loyalists that want to repent but it would take away from the dramatic focus of it being Sylvana's redemption.

Also makes it easier for her to do the task.

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

I have a problem with Tyrande's judgement... Wouldn't it make sense to send more than a single person to the Maw to retrieve the souls of her people? Imagine being the last Night Elf that Sylvanas finds potentially thousands of years later, if not longer. I get that the punishment fits the crime, so to speak, but in the meantime... all those souls are suffering much longer than they would otherwise need to.

Yup, I’d be pretty pissed if I was one of those souls being forced to be tortured much longer than necessary.

[PhillyCheese]

Kael'thas and Lorthemar would be really interesting dialogue.

As for Cairne, don't you see him in the Tauren heritage questline? No reason to seek him out.

Hoping we could see some Calia / Terenas story. Perhaps giving her character some actual purpose for once.

Considering she isn't in Oribos in 9.2.5 I'm assuming she's somewhere hidden. I have checked Oribos up and down.

[Zaelsino]

Kael'thas and Lorthemar would be really interesting dialogue.

I'll forgive a lot of the dumb shit the last two expansions have flung at us if we get to see this.

[Cherry123]

Anduin won't return to Stormwind, but he won't stay in Oribos either. Most likely it will be in 10.0 on the dragon islands as in pandaria. He has a new encrypted model, why do it if he was abandoned.

[Marlamin]

Yeah, turns out he doesn't actually say he's staying in the Shadowlands. Just not coming back home to lead the Alliance. Up for grabs as to where he goes.

Wrathion romantic subplot time.

[Polybius]

Lol, so Anduin gets retired, Thrall will be back to being a daddy and shirk his responsibilities to his people, Kadghar is seeking his final resting place, baine is either still fucking boring or broken now, Sylvanas is benched for a couple patches..

That leaves us with.. who exactly? Jaina the soon-to-be Guardian, the boring windrunner sister and Vereesa, the boring Paladin? Trollrande? Hmm none of them have a maincast vibe to them, except maybe Jaina. So I guess they really try to get rid of as many old characters as possible. Maybe they really abandon this core cast concept and go back to smaller stories without the one dimensional hero characters whose story can't be told in the alloted timeframe.

They’ve been setting up their retirement now that we have a younger cast. Taelia, Tess, Anduin, Wrathion, Rokhan, Lilian, the Children’s week girl, Talanji, allied race leaders. We haven’t seen Thrall’s boy or that Tauren kid we saved.

[PhillyCheese]

This does seem to confirm that there is nothing about "lol leave and never return". So unless the devs hastily write that in because of Lore forums and Red Shirt Guy tweets, the Shadowlands are semi-open.

[Wangming]

Yeah, turns out he doesn't actually say he's staying in the Shadowlands. Just not coming back home to lead the Alliance. Up for grabs as to where he goes.

Wrathion romantic subplot time.

He goes to lead the Horde

[Cherry123]

Yeah, turns out he doesn't actually say he's staying in the Shadowlands. Just not coming back home to lead the Alliance. Up for grabs as to where he goes.

Wrathion BROromantic subplot time.

Yes, that explains the encrypted model. without royal armor

[huth]

Yeah, turns out he doesn't actually say he's staying in the Shadowlands. Just not coming back home to lead the Alliance. Up for grabs as to where he goes.

Wrathion romantic subplot time.

Don't think that makes a whole lot of difference. Main takeaway is that he's staying away from leadership for now, which IMO is rather understandable. Leadership positions are notoriously heavy on the psyche and he's really not in his best mind right now.

[GabrielKnight]

I'll forgive a lot of the dumb shit the last two expansions have flung at us if we get to see this.

I went to check in Sinfal just in case but Kael just has a dialog for Kel'Thuzad's defeat.

[Varodoc]

Alleria looks at Sylvanas with scorn, anger, contempt, which makes sense after all the crimes she's committed. Vereesa looks at Sylvanas with sadness, pity maybe, she seems on the verge of tears. Which also makes sense, since Vereesa is a pathetic crybaby.

[Wangming]

Don't think that makes a whole lot of difference. Main takeaway is that he's staying away from leadership for now, which IMO is rather understandable. Leadership positions are notoriously heavy on the psyche and he's really not in his best mind right now.

Well when Thrall stepped down from leadership in Cata, he was shoved into every cutscene and plotline. But damn, I'm actually excited to see how this is followed up.

[Marlamin]

Don't think that makes a whole lot of difference. Main takeaway is that he's staying away from leadership for now, which IMO is rather understandable. Leadership positions are notoriously heavy on the psyche and he's really not in his best mind right now.

I mean, if we're leaving the Shadowlands (which in all likelihood we are, since the expansion is ending) and he's staying behind that means no more Anduin on the forefront.

If he's leaving the Shadowlands but not leading the Alliance/SW, that might mean we'll actually see -more- of him.