Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[PhillyCheese]

But which one of them is Exploding?

Dragon Isles: Explosion of Tinkers

[Fahrad Wagner]

But which one of them is Exploding?

All of them, at once, on a single bed.

Dragon Isles: Explosion of Tinkers

Dragon Tinker: Explosion of Isles

[Wangming]

Sylvanas has special words for Loyalists.



You are officially best buddies!

Well of course Danuser would want an option to be her official best buddy.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Sylvanas has special words for Loyalists.



You are officially best buddies!

Okay. I... don't know how I feel about that.

[Kiivar86]

Don't think we can expect much of faction conflict in the future. Blizz is kinda done with major conflicts.

We can have plenty of conflicts, we do every expansion. It just will be a smaller and not out and out war.

Probably.

Also got to wondering if maybe this (the dialogue between Genn and Lor'themar) is foreshadowing for Genn and Turalyon. Maybe a stretch to call them friends but they have some history together at least.

[PhillyCheese]

So now we have confirmation of another racial storyline: Humans retaking old settlements under Turalyon. Court of Nobles will likely be propped up as a faction to give them some flavor, as Turalyon mentions them when you talk to him (and now we know him sitting on the throne is important).

I think we have a solid storyline for every EK/Kalimdor race right now except for Trolls, Orcs and Tauren. Forsaken is obvious and Belves are defending QT.

Draenei... something something Yrel.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Okay. I... don't know how I feel about that.

"I am very regretful for my war crimes, but thanks for helping out with all those war crimes : )"

It does at least make the player's choices feel a teensy bit more relevant (even if it didn't really change anything important).

[Fahrad Wagner]

"I am very regretful for my war crimes, but thanks for helping out with all those war crimes : )"

It does at least make the player's choices feel a teensy bit more relevant (even if it didn't really change anything important).

Yeah... relevant but still, this feels so off. Exactly what you said "Thank you for helping me with my war crimes even though you shouldn't have. BFFs forever right?"

[PhillyCheese]

Yeah... relevant but still, this feels so off. Exactly what you said "Thank you for helping me with my war crimes even though you shouldn't have. BFFs forever right?"

Probably because Loyalist players would actually harm themselves/someone if Sylvanas said they were idiots and deserve to die/apologized for "making them stupid".

[AOL Instant Messenger]

So now we have confirmation of another racial storyline: Humans retaking old settlements under Turalyon. Court of Nobles will likely be propped up as a faction to give them some flavor, as Turalyon mentions them when you talk to him (and now we know him sitting on the throne is important).

I think we have a solid storyline for every EK/Kalimdor race right now except for Trolls, Orcs and Tauren. Forsaken is obvious and Belves are defending QT.

Draenei... something something Yrel.

I'd say for the Lightforged Draenei, they're at least already in service to Turalyon. It could also mean that the Draenei as a whole end up helping the Humans and they share a questline, at least up until halfway through where it can split between a down-to-earth war story for the Humans and an expedition to Draenor for the Lightforged and Draenei.

[Nymrohd]

It does, what a twist! We could still get Lordaeron with a sprinkle of Dragon Isles though. Blizzard does love their twists, no matter if anybody wants them or not

We could get the Dragon Isles as floating just northwest of Lordaeron (and never found because they were floating above the cloud line) together with a Lordaeron revamp that offers a secondary campaign that becomes the main story later in the expansion.
And really Lordaeron is not just about Light or Faction War. It can be about the Void with the presence of Zakasj and even possibly Kithix (who would definitely make sense as the force that taught Malacrass how to make use of the Amani loa). It can be about rebuilding and the history of both the Seven Kingdoms+Quel'thalas (which is of interest to both factions) with the Forsaken as a part of it that is actually involved (per compromise with the Alliance due to Calia). Heck it could even be about the Scourge; for all of Shadowlands being the land of death, we did not really fight much of a Scourge there. Maldraxxus was not really a central part of the story (probably the least of all Covenants what with Revendreth having a raid and Ardenweald being central to the story while Bastion's main characters featuring heavily throughout the xpac). They could even tie any undead presence to Galakrond if they bring him back.

But I do think the fact that they are featuring Tirisfal and Quel'thalas with slight but not significant revamps as an argument against a revamp in general. If they were going to do a revamp, why not use more assets from it?

The Dragon Isles are under Lordaeron. The place is like Enkanomiya.

Hmmm in fact Enkanomiya is connected to dragons.

Earlier in the thread I suggested the Dragon Isles actually floating INSIDE Azeroth, making at least the center of the planet hollow with the World Soul as the source of Light. Could just make it accessible from somewhere in Lordaeron.

[PhillyCheese]

I'd say for the Lightforged Draenei, they're at least already in service to Turalyon. It could also mean that the Draenei as a whole end up helping the Humans and they share a questline, at least up until halfway through where it can split between a down-to-earth war story for the Humans and an expedition to Draenor for the Lightforged and Draenei.

I think they will tie the regular Draenei to the Nelves and let Genn and the Worgen do their own thing in the EK. They haven't touched on the Nelf/Draenei friendship in a while and Genn will have more to do with the Forsaken and Turalyon squabbles in EK.

Remember someone is sending a letter to Genn, and it's probably not Anduin as they spoke.

[Sondrelk]

Okay. I... don't know how I feel about that.

Honestly I don't get why this Sylvanas would be kind to loyalists either. From her point of view anyone who who willingly helped her helped the worst criminal in WoW. They are literally complicit in the Jailer's schemes.

[Khaza-R]

So now we have confirmation of another racial storyline: Humans retaking old settlements under Turalyon. Court of Nobles will likely be propped up as a faction to give them some flavor, as Turalyon mentions them when you talk to him (and now we know him sitting on the throne is important).

I think we have a solid storyline for every EK/Kalimdor race right now except for Trolls, Orcs and Tauren. Forsaken is obvious and Belves are defending QT.

Draenei... something something Yrel.

Dornaa - the other orphan.

She had some pretty interesting dialogue as well. And when you give her a toy dragon as a gift she remarks about how one day she wishes she will have a dragon as a friend...

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Both the Horde and Alliance leadership of the past 4-5 years has now been replaced. While I doubt there will be another major faction war based on what Blizzard had said, I do think there's lots of potential for each faction to shift directions somewhat.

I'd definitely like for the Horde to embrace the "struggling survivor" image a bit, people huddling together in camps or on the open prairie to try and stay alive together, and protect their own freedoms. While the Alliance takes a darker turn, and becomes almost a bit like the British Empire. Not necessarily run by an evil mastermind plotting behind the curtains, but colonisers, enforcers and policemen of the world. The major global power to be reckoned with.

Agreed. I think this would be a very good time to return to their original WarCraft III incarnations. Turalyon is a very good option to have a dubious leader who isn't evil, I think. He's not evil, but he's definitely someone who is going to start a few wars.

Also, given who this is a response to, obligatory "do not engage."

[Nymrohd]

I think they will tie the regular Draenei to the Nelves and let Genn and the Worgen do their own thing in the EK. They haven't touched on the Nelf/Draenei friendship in a while and Genn will have more to do with the Forsaken and Turalyon squabbles in EK.

Remember someone is sending a letter to Genn, and it's probably not Anduin as they spoke.

Could be Anduin telling him where he plans to go and how to reach him.

[Kiivar86]

Dornaa - the other orphan.

She had some pretty interesting dialogue as well. And when you give her a toy dragon as a gift she remarks about how one day she wishes she will have a dragon as a friend...

She and Salandria both had that reaction from the Bronze guards and Zaladormu saying how both can't be punished for things they do or fail to do in the future, too.

[Nymrohd]

Both the Horde and Alliance leadership of the past 4-5 years has now been replaced. While I doubt there will be another major faction war based on what Blizzard had said, I do think there's lots of potential for each faction to shift directions somewhat.

I'd definitely like for the Horde to embrace the "struggling survivor" image a bit, people huddling together in camps or on the open prairie to try and stay alive together, and protect their own freedoms. While the Alliance takes a darker turn, and becomes almost a bit like the British Empire. Not necessarily run by an evil mastermind plotting behind the curtains, but colonisers, enforcers and policemen of the world. The major global power to be reckoned with.

The Horde also has massively changed. Unlike the Alliance were most of the Allied Races are very minor players, the Horde got two superpowers with extremely advanced civilizations in the form of Zandalar and Nightborne. It would just feel very weird to make them feel like struggling survivors at this point (and it does requires that the story of some of the races move forward; perhaps with the Darkspear getting a proper home and the Tauren actually being depicted as much more successful).

[AOL Instant Messenger]

The Horde also has massively changed. Unlike the Alliance were most of the Allied Races are very minor players, the Horde got two superpowers with extremely advanced civilizations in the form of Zandalar and Nightborne. It would just feel very weird to make them feel like struggling survivors at this point (and it does requires that the story of some of the races move forward; perhaps with the Darkspear getting a proper home and the Tauren actually being depicted as much more successful).

Fair enough. I'd say that the Nightborne and Zandalari are both superpowers that are being somewhat skimmed over—I suppose they are arguably the two most powerful parts of the Horde by now, and should probably end up as important players in it.

[ercarp]

What was @PhillyCheese banned for?