Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Sondrelk]

I am talking about the one that stated she'd be going into the maw to seek out the souls she was responsible for sending there to begin with, nothing about Nathanos

Sylvanas was not killed as punishment.
She is free to search the Maw.
Therefore Sylvanas' punishment is likely Maw related.
Sylvanas' punishment is most likely saving souls in the Maw.

It was never a difficult leap.

[Nymrohd]

The book says that Anduin went on a journey with Sylvanas.

then why does he need a new model in 9.2.5

I think it implies that. But it could still be Nathanos instead. It's just someone wearing armor approaching Sylvanas. Scale armor is still armor.

[Mauderkin]

Sucks that any hope of a world revamp is dead now that the Blood Elf quests essentially confirm there was no time skip whatsoever in the Shadowlands.

[Sondrelk]

Sucks that any hope of a world revamp is dead now that the Blood Elf quests essentially confirm there was no time skip whatsoever in the Shadowlands.

Why is timeskip needed at all though? It's been years since Cataclysm in-game. There have been no less than 3 massive world-scale conflicts that have changes zones since then.
Just tell teh stories that are natural with so much happening.

[cocomen2]

The book says that Anduin went on a journey with Sylvanas.

then why does he need a new model in 9.2.5

He seen some shit in SL, and now twice as man than he was before it. (more cooler face and abs, i hope)

[Hitei]

The book says that Anduin went on a journey with Sylvanas.

then why does he need a new model in 9.2.5

Not sure why people are so puzzled about this. If he's decided not to go back, then he's also stepping down from the throne and is no longer king. Therefore he will probably not want to walk around in kingly armor or continue wielding Shalamayne after what it was used for.

The new model is almost certainly him getting rid of the armor and instead wearing some sort of simple robes/clothing (probably attendant/oribos inspired) to indicate that he's no longer King Anduin and instead is just Anduin the priest.

[Sableye]

Sylvanas punishment was basically determined to be this from the second we got the datamined voiceline from Sylvanas that she would search for Nathanos forever in the Shadowlands.
And that was ages ago, extremely early in the 9.2 PTR.

She isn't though, she's there for all the unjustly banished souls entombed in the maw and places like Torghast. There's been zero mentions of Nathanos since the prepatch. Like Blizzard forgot about him entirely.

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Not sure why people are so puzzled about this. If he's decided not to go back, then he's also stepping down from the throne and is no longer king. Therefore he will probably not want to walk around in kingly armor or continue wielding Shalamayne after what it was used for.

The new model is almost certainly him getting rid of the armor and instead wearing some sort of simple robes/clothing (probably attendant/oribos inspired) to indicate that he's no longer King Anduin and instead is just Anduin the priest.

He was being set up as this Uber-Priest WAAAAAAAAYYYY back in Mists of Pandaria but then they just made him a pally anyways. He's way more interesting as a priest ruling Stormwind, someone who's not a warrior and not ready to just jump into battle either without first exhausting all other options

[Super Dickmann]

On paper, having Anduin buckle under the strain and be de facto written out is the best thing to have happened to the factions in half a decade, freeing up both the Alliance and Horde to no longer have to rotate around his boring ass. In practice though, Anduin going to the Maw is terrible because there's no way the Devs will shelve him for more than one patch, which also means that Sylvanas is likely to come back with him.

[Hitei]

He was being set up as this Uber-Priest WAAAAAAAAYYYY back in Mists of Pandaria but then they just made him a pally anyways. He's way more interesting as a priest ruling Stormwind, someone who's not a warrior

Right but that's sort of my whole point.

His armor was him metaphorically stepping into the role of "King" like his father. He started using his father's weapon and started wearing heavy plate armor like his father. This was immediately shown as not suiting him at the start of BfA, when he ends up just throwing down the sword and using a priest spell. But he continues to hold onto that identity through the war until he lends Shalamayne to Saurfang. Just after that, he is taken. And then forced into becoming a pseudo Death Knight (an identity which also involves heavy plate armor and a sword of significance)

So now, where he's full of regret over what he did as a DK, and is abandoning the "King" identity he was imitating his father doing, he no longer has a need for the sword or armor, and instead will return to just being a repentant priest, wearing something more suited to that priest identity and not war-forged plate armor.

[Sondrelk]

She isn't though, she's there for all the unjustly banished souls entombed in the maw and places like Torghast. There's been zero mentions of Nathanos since the prepatch. Like Blizzard forgot about him entirely.

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He was being set up as this Uber-Priest WAAAAAAAAYYYY back in Mists of Pandaria but then they just made him a pally anyways. He's way more interesting as a priest ruling Stormwind, someone who's not a warrior

Nathanos was not mentioned by name, but Sylvanas did mention she would be looking for her true love, forever if that is what it took.
Or I guess the person saying this could be someone else. Point is that once this was datamined pretty much everyone on this forum at least accepted that Sylvanas' fate would be saving souls in the Maw. The later datamining session that found her jumping animation just sealed the deal.

[Fiercelord]

Was hoping for a build tonight. Last week it got pushed really early. I mean it's still not too late I guess.

[bagina]

The book says that Anduin went on a journey with Sylvanas.

That'd be literally the best (and only positive) thing to come out of Shadowlands

[Shadochi]

so presumably anduin is off to help Sylvy in the maw?

[manypillars]

Nathanos was not mentioned by name, but Sylvanas did mention she would be looking for her true love, forever if that is what it took.

It's her sled, rosebud. Symbol of her lost innocence.

Nathanos, who?

[Hitei]

so presumably anduin is off to help Sylvy in the maw?

Didn't he specifically say he was remaining in Oribos? He wants to heal, not go back to shadow-hell to see all the suffering and torment of lost souls firsthand.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

On paper, having Anduin buckle under the strain and be de facto written out is the best thing to have happened to the factions in half a decade, freeing up both the Alliance and Horde to no longer have to rotate around his boring ass. In practice though, Anduin going to the Maw is terrible because there's no way the Devs will shelve him for more than one patch, which also means that Sylvanas is likely to come back with him.

Luckily, it seems like he's just going to dick around in the Shadowlands, not strictly be adjacent to Sylvie.

[Shadochi]

Didn't he specifically say he was remaining in Oribos? He wants to heal, not go back to shadow-hell to see all the suffering and torment of lost souls firsthand.

Calling it now. We get anduin back in the future being master of Death (Domination), Light (Light) and Void (he can use shadow magic). And then later he collects the other 3 Infinity Forces.

Tho if he is taking a break in 10.0 then it might in fact be a Light themed expansion, either that one or 11.0.

[Varodoc]

Sooo... I was just thinking... if Turalyon became a villain, wouldn't the Ren'dorei be the only ones who can stop him and his Light friends? Since the Void is the most powerful weapon that can be used against the Light, its opposite, its ancient enemy, its counter, and the Ren'dorei are the first mortals in the history of the Cosmos to have mastered it.

If Turalyon becomes a villain, so to say, Alleria Windrunner and the Ren'dorei might very well be the best and final hope of the Alliance and Azeroth against the forces of the Light.

In the past, I have been very vocal about the "Golden One" whisper referring to Pelagos, and not Turalyon, also based on Ion's words from an interview.

But now I am no longer certain. Now I can also consider the possibility of Turalyon's "crown" being the one to "Bring darkness". And darkness can be fought only with other darkness.

[JDBlou]

You can call them void elves, everyone else does.

[Varx]

Sooo... I was just thinking... if Turalyon became a villain, wouldn't the Ren'dorei be the only ones who can stop him and his Light friends? Since the Void is the most powerful weapon that can be used against the Light, its opposite, its ancient enemy, its counter, and the Ren'dorei are the first mortals in the history of the Cosmos to have mastered it.

If Turalyon becomes a villain, so to say, Alleria Windrunner and the Ren'dorei might very well be the best and final hope of the Alliance and Azeroth against the forces of the Light.

In the past, I have been very vocal about the "Golden One" whisper referring to Pelagos, and not Turalyon, also based on Ion's words from an interview.

But now I am no longer certain. Now I can also consider the possibility of Turalyon's "crown" being the one to "Bring darkness". And darkness can be fought only with other darkness.

I mean I'm sure there would be an interesting dynamic given the two are married, but no I don't think they'd be the only ones capable of spanking Goldust.