Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Fahrad Wagner]

Honestly I would like to see this alongside with the reduction of zone number (merging zones into bigger areas in EK and Kali).

Another wish I have is to create a unified Azeroth. Bring everything to the same map. Revamp cata (or MoP) and earlier stuff and do some continents on release and then other in patches. Not just having Maelstrom, EK, Kali, Northrend, Pandaria, Broken Isles, KulTiras and Zandalar on the same map, but also all the instanced off islands (like from the island expeditions) and other stuff like that.

That would be an absolute dream come true.

[Nymrohd]

I think it might also be because Lordaeron is one of the worst areas in WoW as far as telling us the history of the area as well as representing the lore.
Immediately I want to say that I don't mean the zone questing is bad. The Forsaken questlines from Cata are among the best quest writing in WoW and do a marvelous job of building up the Forsaken as a culture (that later sources completely retcon).
We know very little of the actual structure of the Seven Kingdoms. The way the place is represented is also so weird. WHERE was Alterac? Was it just a mountain pass? Where exactly is Alterac Valley meant to be? Could we ever have Quel'thalas joined with the world and thus actually have the north coast of Lordaeron (and is Stratholme a port? If not does it have an adjacent port? Where do the Forsaken have a port, what with their fairly extensive navy?). It also fails to really give us much lore on those Kingdoms. I still have no idea why there is no Human category in archeology.

Compare them to orcs (so, so much lore), trolls, elves, dwarves, we just don't get an equal amount of human history in the game which is so weird given they are EVERYWHERE (the tauren and goblins have it even worse).

[Shadochi]

Souls going slower into the Maw, nice

Have you ignored the rest of the reply? What would be the point of the central piece in oribos if it was only for the rare maw souls. I think all souls pass through there before shooting off to their realm judged by the arbiter

[Wangming]

And one of the major points for me for WoW has been how throughout a continent the zones don't have a loading screen compared to other MMOs i tried. I would like to see that go a step further.

But if needed and disc size isnt an issue keep the old instanced off zones through portals or chromie

Oh hell yes. Like I understand why FFXIV put in load screens, but nowadays it just makes me feel I'm not exploring an open world. (And indeed I'm not. Kinda). The openness is one of the things I still appreciate in WoW.

[Dioporco]

Cant check ingame now to confirm, but dont the anima streams in the skybox all start from below oribos? Like the thingy in middle is just to view all souls that pass into SL before they go off to their own realm.

Also from what other people said the stream in the middle seems to move slower.

same stream going faster in the videos toh

[Nymrohd]

I wonder if Blizzard would ever revamp continents to be bigger in scale (obvious still not to lore-scale), but it would be interesting if instead of just updating the zones like Arathi and Darkshore they just completely rebuild it from the ground up. I highly doubt it though, since that would require much more work.

I feel Eastern Kingdoms in particular really needs that. To actually fit things. I mean if you tried to make Lordaeron, Gilneas and Stromgarde the size of Boralus, you need more space (Lordaeron should be even bigger tbh).

Honestly what I'd love from a revamp is to a) possibly merge zones and b)maybe actually ADD zones.
Some places in Azeroth make no sense whatsoever. Primary example for me is Northern Kalimdor. There really would need to be some zone hugging Moonglade and Winterspring helping to ease the elevation. And don't blame it on the Sundering; cliffs like those would have just collapse over ten thousand years. And I'd also love some underground zones. As a huge Underdark fan, I just want them. Hyjal Barrows should extend from Felwood to Azshara. A significant cavern system is beneath Stonetalon (and we don't even have a dungeon). Terramok could be a zone. Blackrock Caverns could be a zone.

[Fahrad Wagner]

I feel Eastern Kingdoms in particular really needs that. To actually fit things. I mean if you tried to make Lordaeron, Gilneas and Stromgarde the size of Boralus, you need more space (Lordaeron should be even bigger tbh).

Upscaled Lordaeron, Gilneas, Quel'Thalas, Barrens or Feralas... what I wouldn't give for those

[Shadochi]

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same stream going faster in the videos toh

idk then man, Pelagos meant what he said but then he saw the influx of souls from RP servers and decided that maybe the maw was a good idea

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I feel Eastern Kingdoms in particular really needs that. To actually fit things. I mean if you tried to make Lordaeron, Gilneas and Stromgarde the size of Boralus, you need more space (Lordaeron should be even bigger tbh).

Upscaled Lordaeron, Gilneas, Quel'Thalas, Barrens or Feralas... what I wouldn't give for those

Also IIRC EK is in area quite smaller than Kalimdor (but both could be bigger if they made proper important locations)

[Cherry123]

who said that Anduin has an encrypted model? in 9.2.5 I didn't find it on wowhead. In trying to understand the future of the characters, the narrative seems incoherent.

[Wangming]

Upscaled Lordaeron, Gilneas, Quel'Thalas, Barrens or Feralas... what I wouldn't give for those

Well, what wouldn't you? Don't leave us hanging. I have Professor Woland on the line and he is really interested.

[Nymrohd]

idk then man, Pelagos meant what he said but then he saw the influx of souls from RP servers and decided that maybe the maw was a good idea

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Also IIRC EK is in area quite smaller than Kalimdor (but both could be bigger if they made proper important locations)

Honestly Kul Tiras is perhaps the first time in WoW I felt a kingdom had a reasonable scale. Not a good scale, but a reasonable one. Stormwind could if they revamped the adjacent zones properly and they did not look like disaster zones. Lordaeron ones could never.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Well, what wouldn't you? Don't leave us hanging. I have Professor Woland on the line and he is really interested.

"What would you give for an upscaled world revamp?"

Me, an "intellectual":

Honestly Kul Tiras is perhaps the first time in WoW I felt a kingdom had a reasonable scale. Not a good scale, but a reasonable one. Stormwind could if they revamped the adjacent zones properly and they did not look like disaster zones. Lordaeron ones could never.

I agree, they did a good job with KT.

[Catastrophy349]

I am truly a WoW fan, through and through, nothing more. I love WoW and, like everyone else (mostly), I am HYPE AF for 10.0 news. Praying for a 9.2.5 PTR build!

[Marlamin]

who said that Anduin has an encrypted model? in 9.2.5 I didn't find it on wowhead. In trying to understand the future of the characters, the narrative seems incoherent.

Wowhead didn't news it (it's also not really huge news or anything, since it's well, encrypted).

[Wangming]

"What would you give for an upscaled world revamp?"

Me, an "intellectual":

Me also an intellectual:

[Revamp Man]

Well we still haven't dealt with

Denathrius
Azshara
Gallywix
Xal'atath

Granted we all know the true big bad is Silas Darkmoon

But yes, there are enough loose threads to create a crazy Azeroth. Hmmmm what is Magatha doing nowaday?

so im convinced Xal is either
1. void lord
or
2. Old god because theres one more according to small hints in chronicles

either way she has a connection to the thing under the sunwell and that would give her power to make a void flight

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

so im convinced Xal is either
1. void lord
or
2. Old god because theres one more according to small hints in chronicles

either way she has a connection to the thing under the sunwell and that would give her power to make a void flight

I want a Xal expansion SO FUCKING BAD. She's gotten all the mystery and buildup the Jailer wishes he got.

[TheLostCodex]

The most comical thing about all these 'leaks' are the EXCRUCIATING detail they all give on the story ahead when absolutely NO real Leak has ever given that much info before 'vague story beats, a name and some general themes'.

For all you leak writers for the days and weeks ahead, take note:

Full cast list with defining story arcs for every character: Red Flag and fake
Mention of Cinematics within zones/names of cinematics: Red Flag and fake
Full details on Patch details: OBVIOUS Red Flag and fake
Excessive amount of 'wish list items' like 'Player housing, 5 new allied races, class skins and classes being every race': Obvious Red flag and fake

[Shadochi]

My favorite leak ever was Voljin and a vase doing something lol

Yeah, that one was so out there, but after the announcemet so obvious that it was from someone who got to see the power point

[Scaleface]

The most comical thing about all these 'leaks' are the EXCRUCIATING detail they all give on the story ahead when absolutely NO real Leak has ever given that much info before 'vague story beats, a name and some general themes'.

For all you leak writers for the days and weeks ahead, take note:

Full cast list with defining story arcs for every character: Red Flag and fake
Mention of Cinematics within zones/names of cinematics: Red Flag and fake
Full details on Patch details: OBVIOUS Red Flag and fake
Excessive amount of 'wish list items' like 'Player housing, 5 new allied races, class skins and classes being every race': Obvious Red flag and fake

well, wxd "wow ex dev" guy leaked legion months before blizzcon, he wroted whole intro cinematic and stuff about dh and overall theme which were just 1 to 1 confirmed later on blizzcon. He leaked it on mmo-c and twitter, but ppl have short memory

I cannot find his account anymore maybe its deleted but posts should be easy to find.