Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Wangming]

I mean, Ion WAS an armchair developer before becoming an actual dev. So he kind of did take control of Azeroth.

Not in my eyes. The more control he gets, the shittier the game becomes.

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I wonder if Blizzard would ever revamp continents to be bigger in scale (obvious still not to lore-scale), but it would be interesting if instead of just updating the zones like Arathi and Darkshore they just completely rebuild it from the ground up. I highly doubt it though, since that would require much more work.

They could do that now and it would be awesome. Turn Tirisfal and Gilneas into 3 zones each and I'm happy.

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Destiny devs said they used the name because Acti-Blizz already had it. The trademark was put in 2 years before Destiny even came out, let alone the expansion.

So it can still happen?

Honestly if 10.0 ends up being titled The Dark Below, I will resub. Feel free to screenshot this and hold me to my word.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Not in my eyes. The more control he gets, the shittier the game becomes.

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They could do that now and it would be awesome. Turn Tirisfal and Gilneas into 3 zones each and I'm happy.

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So it can still happen?

Honestly if 10.0 ends up being titled The Dark Below, I will resub. Feel free to screenshot this and hold me to my word.

They used it already for a Destiny game so no, it's not happening as the TM is already in use?

[Shadochi]

I wonder if Blizzard would ever revamp continents to be bigger in scale (obvious still not to lore-scale), but it would be interesting if instead of just updating the zones like Arathi and Darkshore they just completely rebuild it from the ground up. I highly doubt it though, since that would require much more work.

I surely hope they would, and that's why I have moved from a "revamp all at once" approach to a "revamp progressively" one. This would allow for bigger scale, which I think is one of the best things about recent expansions.

Also on another topic: I have added all previous hype threads I could find to my signature and... Damn. I've been commenting on hype threads for 8 years. Time flies guys, time flies...

Honestly I would like to see this alongside with the reduction of zone number (merging zones into bigger areas in EK and Kali).

Another wish I have is to create a unified Azeroth. Bring everything to the same map. Revamp cata (or MoP) and earlier stuff and do some continents on release and then other in patches. Not just having Maelstrom, EK, Kali, Northrend, Pandaria, Broken Isles, KulTiras and Zandalar on the same map, but also all the instanced off islands (like from the island expeditions) and other stuff like that.

[Dioporco]

I like how Pelagos is the new arbiter,, decide to not send any other souls in the Maw.



and during the cinematic the souls behind him are still going in to the maw.

[Shadochi]

They used it already for a Destiny game so no, it's not happening as the TM is already in use?

But under who is the trademark? ABK or Bungie?

[Wangming]

They used it already for a Destiny game so no, it's not happening as the TM is already in use?

I don't think The Dark Below is specific enough for that to make sense. Like sure if somebody releases another Mists of Pandaria or Warlords of Draenor, sue their balls off. But I doubt it would make sense to trademark every title without the World of Warcraft part otherwise nobody ever anywhere could use Legion or Cataclysm as their title even though those are super vague and in no way specific to WoW.

[Shadochi]

I like how Pelagos is the new arbiter,, decide to not send any other souls in the Maw.



and during the cinematic the souls behind him are still going in to the maw.

Cant check ingame now to confirm, but dont the anima streams in the skybox all start from below oribos? Like the thingy in middle is just to view all souls that pass into SL before they go off to their own realm.

Also from what other people said the stream in the middle seems to move slower.

[Wangming]

Honestly I would like to see this alongside with the reduction of zone number (merging zones into bigger areas in EK and Kali).

Another wish I have is to create a unified Azeroth. Bring everything to the same map. Revamp cata (or MoP) and earlier stuff and do some continents on release and then other in patches. Not just having Maelstrom, EK, Kali, Northrend, Pandaria, Broken Isles, KulTiras and Zandalar on the same map, but also all the instanced off islands (like from the island expeditions) and other stuff like that.

Plus 1 for unified Azeroth. It makes no sense that you need to enter a freakin portal to reach Quel'Thalas just because it was added in TBC.

[Dioporco]

Also from what other people said the stream in the middle seems to move slower.

Souls going slower into the Maw, nice

[Shadochi]

Plus 1 for unified Azeroth. It makes no sense that you need to enter a freakin portal to reach Quel'Thalas just because it was added in TBC.

And one of the major points for me for WoW has been how throughout a continent the zones don't have a loading screen compared to other MMOs i tried. I would like to see that go a step further.

But if needed and disc size isnt an issue keep the old instanced off zones through portals or chromie

[Fahrad Wagner]

Honestly I would like to see this alongside with the reduction of zone number (merging zones into bigger areas in EK and Kali).

Another wish I have is to create a unified Azeroth. Bring everything to the same map. Revamp cata (or MoP) and earlier stuff and do some continents on release and then other in patches. Not just having Maelstrom, EK, Kali, Northrend, Pandaria, Broken Isles, KulTiras and Zandalar on the same map, but also all the instanced off islands (like from the island expeditions) and other stuff like that.

That would be an absolute dream come true.

[Nymrohd]

I think it might also be because Lordaeron is one of the worst areas in WoW as far as telling us the history of the area as well as representing the lore.
Immediately I want to say that I don't mean the zone questing is bad. The Forsaken questlines from Cata are among the best quest writing in WoW and do a marvelous job of building up the Forsaken as a culture (that later sources completely retcon).
We know very little of the actual structure of the Seven Kingdoms. The way the place is represented is also so weird. WHERE was Alterac? Was it just a mountain pass? Where exactly is Alterac Valley meant to be? Could we ever have Quel'thalas joined with the world and thus actually have the north coast of Lordaeron (and is Stratholme a port? If not does it have an adjacent port? Where do the Forsaken have a port, what with their fairly extensive navy?). It also fails to really give us much lore on those Kingdoms. I still have no idea why there is no Human category in archeology.

Compare them to orcs (so, so much lore), trolls, elves, dwarves, we just don't get an equal amount of human history in the game which is so weird given they are EVERYWHERE (the tauren and goblins have it even worse).

[Shadochi]

Souls going slower into the Maw, nice

Have you ignored the rest of the reply? What would be the point of the central piece in oribos if it was only for the rare maw souls. I think all souls pass through there before shooting off to their realm judged by the arbiter

[Wangming]

And one of the major points for me for WoW has been how throughout a continent the zones don't have a loading screen compared to other MMOs i tried. I would like to see that go a step further.

But if needed and disc size isnt an issue keep the old instanced off zones through portals or chromie

Oh hell yes. Like I understand why FFXIV put in load screens, but nowadays it just makes me feel I'm not exploring an open world. (And indeed I'm not. Kinda). The openness is one of the things I still appreciate in WoW.

[Dioporco]

Cant check ingame now to confirm, but dont the anima streams in the skybox all start from below oribos? Like the thingy in middle is just to view all souls that pass into SL before they go off to their own realm.

Also from what other people said the stream in the middle seems to move slower.

same stream going faster in the videos toh

[Nymrohd]

I wonder if Blizzard would ever revamp continents to be bigger in scale (obvious still not to lore-scale), but it would be interesting if instead of just updating the zones like Arathi and Darkshore they just completely rebuild it from the ground up. I highly doubt it though, since that would require much more work.

I feel Eastern Kingdoms in particular really needs that. To actually fit things. I mean if you tried to make Lordaeron, Gilneas and Stromgarde the size of Boralus, you need more space (Lordaeron should be even bigger tbh).

Honestly what I'd love from a revamp is to a) possibly merge zones and b)maybe actually ADD zones.
Some places in Azeroth make no sense whatsoever. Primary example for me is Northern Kalimdor. There really would need to be some zone hugging Moonglade and Winterspring helping to ease the elevation. And don't blame it on the Sundering; cliffs like those would have just collapse over ten thousand years. And I'd also love some underground zones. As a huge Underdark fan, I just want them. Hyjal Barrows should extend from Felwood to Azshara. A significant cavern system is beneath Stonetalon (and we don't even have a dungeon). Terramok could be a zone. Blackrock Caverns could be a zone.

[Fahrad Wagner]

I feel Eastern Kingdoms in particular really needs that. To actually fit things. I mean if you tried to make Lordaeron, Gilneas and Stromgarde the size of Boralus, you need more space (Lordaeron should be even bigger tbh).

Upscaled Lordaeron, Gilneas, Quel'Thalas, Barrens or Feralas... what I wouldn't give for those

[Shadochi]

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same stream going faster in the videos toh

idk then man, Pelagos meant what he said but then he saw the influx of souls from RP servers and decided that maybe the maw was a good idea

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I feel Eastern Kingdoms in particular really needs that. To actually fit things. I mean if you tried to make Lordaeron, Gilneas and Stromgarde the size of Boralus, you need more space (Lordaeron should be even bigger tbh).

Upscaled Lordaeron, Gilneas, Quel'Thalas, Barrens or Feralas... what I wouldn't give for those

Also IIRC EK is in area quite smaller than Kalimdor (but both could be bigger if they made proper important locations)

[Cherry123]

who said that Anduin has an encrypted model? in 9.2.5 I didn't find it on wowhead. In trying to understand the future of the characters, the narrative seems incoherent.

[Wangming]

Upscaled Lordaeron, Gilneas, Quel'Thalas, Barrens or Feralas... what I wouldn't give for those

Well, what wouldn't you? Don't leave us hanging. I have Professor Woland on the line and he is really interested.