Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Foolicious]

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Enjoy! Happy reading/discussing!

Publishing a dev interview on april 1 seems like a great idea!

[Nymrohd]

This isn't really news.
"Darkfallen" is the name for undead elves since WC3.

Rather seems Darkfallen is more than undead elves though. Nathanos, the Undead Vrykul from Stormheim and the Outlaw artifact story all seem to be Darkfallen.So it is a form of undeath with characteristic red eyes and a far lower level of decay that occasionally but not always has vampiric attributes? Definitely could see it as a way to excuse an allied race.

[Wangming]

Publishing a dev interview on april 1 seems like a great idea!

Shit if the real leak dropped on April 1st, that would be great

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Rather seems Darkfallen is more than undead elves though. Nathanos, the Undead Vrykul from Stormheim and the Outlaw artifact story all seem to be Darkfallen.So it is a form of undeath with characteristic red eyes and a far lower level of decay that occasionally but not always has vampiric attributes? Definitely could see it as a way to excuse an allied race.

So a diverge group of undead who are mostly vampiric and include all known Dark Rangers in their ranks. It does seem to mirror the Illidari for a possible playable Dark Ranger.

Unless they just straight-up make Darkfallen a third faction with undead variants of present playable races. Seems like an easy and cost-effective way to give us more undead options and spice up the faction dynamic. Horde is no longer the evil one.

[Revamp Man]

Eh, not really. That entire "leak" reads more like a wishlist than a genuine leak. There's way too much info and they put too much effort into formatting the post to look neat. I'm expecting the real leak to be poorly formatted with bad grammar and spelling errors.

1. Khadgar returning only makes sense and it's been at the forefront of multiple leaks since 2018 or so. People want Khadgar to come back so of course they're going to include that in their "leaks".

2. Heritage weapons have been known about for years now. Blizzard was originally planning to add them in 7.3.5, but they got scrapped. It's good to see them do something with them now but this is old news.

3. I don't know what that is, first time I'm hearing about it.

4. No idea what that is either.

EoA isn't a real leak. Even the acronym is stupid since it shares the acronym with a Legion dungeon (Eye of Azshara). What would the acronym even be short for here anyway? Eye of Alexstrasza? Lol.

1. very few if any leaks mentioned khadgar so its obviously not much of a wishlist

2. i dont remember anything from blizzard or datamining saying they were scrapped other than forum posters saying the TW weapons from a vendor are heritage weapons

3. I should probably be more clear: theres constant mentions of the sun/eternal sun be it in game directly or the shops or the whispers so a sun form for a druid makes sense

4. datamined reindeer mount

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You mean the leak that said heritage weapons would be coming to vendors, when they are clearly not on vendors, said we would be getting a reindeer mount, when we are not getting a reindeer mount, but a sled mount, and there is clearly no customization for any of the races in 9.2.5?

Oh yeah, that is also the leak that for some reason decided Mag'har Orc Warlock would ever be a thing LMAO

It mentions all these things, yet it does not mention the continuation of Heritage Quests, which are CLOSELY linked to Heritage Weapons.

That leak is clearly fake.

hey remember when blizzard said we would get bonus rolls in SL??

oh or my favorite how 9.2 would have new soul bind stuff added??

its almost like they change stuff up to the day of launch

i mean did humans have to drink demon blood to be a warlock and my personal favorite "it says reindeer mount but theres a sled too" come on man

is it real?? idk probably not
is it getting stuff right?? yeah a bit
could it be pure guess work?? oh definitely

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Source is trust me like all leaks here but for me personally this came from a family member who used to be a wow enthusiast who works in the industry and who attended the conference so it's credible enough for me.

that same kind of source told my co tank that the expansion after MoP was going to be a level cap of 95

[Makorus]

1. very few if any leaks mentioned khadgar so its obviously not much of a wishlist

2. i dont remember anything from blizzard or datamining saying they were scrapped other than forum posters saying the TW weapons from a vendor are heritage weapons

3. I should probably be more clear: theres constant mentions of the sun/eternal sun be it in game directly or the shops or the whispers so a sun form for a druid makes sense

4. datamined reindeer mount

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hey remember when blizzard said we would get bonus rolls in SL??

oh or my favorite how 9.2 would have new soul bind stuff added??

its almost like they change stuff up to the day of launch

i mean did humans have to drink demon blood to be a warlock and my personal favorite "it says reindeer mount but theres a sled too" come on man

is it real?? idk probably not
is it getting stuff right?? yeah a bit
could it be pure guess work?? oh definitely

"Oh, the leak is real, things just changed since then" is my favourite cope, because it essentially means that nothing in the leak matches with reality and you just want it to be real.

Orcs LITERALLY get corrupted by even being exposed to fel magic. They don't have to use it. They get corrupted simply from being close to people practicing it. A Mag'har Orc Warlock wouldn't be a Mag'har Orc Warlock. It would be an Orc. It would no longer be uncorrupted lmao.

And yes, it's not a reindeer mount. This is a reindeer mount and is probably what the OP banked on. And while there are reindeers involved in that mount, if you call that a reindeer mount, then you are being obtuse on purpose.

[Catastrophy349]

Publishing a dev interview on april 1 seems like a great idea!

Yup! April 1st is already a fun day for Blizzard to troll the community. Now, a developer interview on top of that? Can we believe anything Morgan says??

[Lady Atia]

Yup! April 1st is already a fun day for Blizzard to troll the community. Now, a developer interview on top of that? Can we believe anything Morgan says??

I was never a fan of bad april 1 jokes like the last ones from wowhead. April 1st should be fun if you make obvious jokes, but it's not if they drop stuff we actually want and than say "haha kekW was just a jooooke".

[huth]

Source is trust me like all leaks here but for me personally this came from a family member who used to be a wow enthusiast who works in the industry and who attended the conference so it's credible enough for me.

Why would they get this information at a random conference in Istanbul?

[Chickat]

Yeah, turns out he doesn't actually say he's staying in the Shadowlands. Just not coming back home to lead the Alliance. Up for grabs as to where he goes.

Wrathion romantic subplot time.

Actually I think he will end up on the Dragon Isles with Wrathion.

Bolvar will want to go to the Dragon Isles to repent for what he did to the red dragons. Taelia will tag along. At some point they all meet up and Anduin gets a girlfriend. Bolvar reconnects with his daughter as well as regains some of his honor.

[Raetary]

the Undead Vrykul from Stormheim and the Outlaw artifact story all seem to be Darkfallen..

??
The undead in the outlaw quests use regular undead and skeleton models, and the Kvaldir only fit the "lower lvls of decay" characteristic and even that only about half of the time, as a lot of them are just Skeletons too.

If you mean the Runcarvers/Bonespeakers, all of them are alive for one and their eye colors aren't strictly red either, some are blue, some are orange.

[Wangming]

Why would they get this information at a random conference in Istanbul?

They wouldn't. Whole thing reeks of bullshit but is vauge enough for a told you so if it ends up being legit.

Actually I think he will end up on the Dragon Isles with Wrathion.

Bolvar will want to go to the Dragon Isles to repent for what he did to the red dragons. Taelia will tag along. At some point they all meet up and Anduin gets a girlfriend. Bolvar reconnects with his daughter as well as regains some of his honor.

You thought it was a new girlfriend, but it was me WrathDIOn.

[Nymrohd]

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The undead in the outlaw quests use regular undead and skeleton models, and the Kvaldir only fit the "lower lvls of decay" characteristic and even that only about half of the time, as a lot of them are just Skeletons too.

If you mean the Runcarvers/Bonespeakers, all of them are alive for one and their eye colors aren't strictly red either, some are blue, some are orange.

Nah I meant the Alucard Vrykul spoof in the murloc area.

[Raetary]

Nah I meant the Alucard Vrykul spoof in the murloc area.

Oh yeah, the blood pirates in front of the castlevania temple.

I forgot about those.

[Wangming]

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The undead in the outlaw quests use regular undead and skeleton models, and the Kvaldir only fit the "lower lvls of decay" characteristic and even that only about half of the time, as a lot of them are just Skeletons too.

If you mean the Runcarvers/Bonespeakers, all of them are alive for one and their eye colors aren't strictly red either, some are blue, some are orange.

I think he specifically means this guy:

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blood-Thane_Lucard

Come to think of it, back in BfA Sylvanas tried to recruit the San'layin into the Horde. That could get a followup. Or Denathrius could take over.
Honestly Revendreth and anything connected to it is one part that I've never read or heard any complaints about by any player.

[Sondrelk]

I think he specifically means this guy:

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blood-Thane_Lucard

Come to think of it, back in BfA Sylvanas tried to recruit the San'layin into the Horde. That could get a followup. Or Denathrius could take over.
Honestly Revendreth and anything connected to it is one part that I've never read or heard any complaints about by any player.

I think the whole deal where the San'layn killed and consumed a whole bunch of Forsaken likely undercut diplomatic relations with the Horde a tad.

But who knows, this was BfA Horde, where nothing short of complete and utter annihilation of the Horde as a whole was enough to make them consider not backing Sylvanas' plans, so maybe they considered a few lost troops an acceptable trade for vampires.

[Nymrohd]

I think he specifically means this guy:

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blood-Thane_Lucard

Come to think of it, back in BfA Sylvanas tried to recruit the San'layin into the Horde. That could get a followup. Or Denathrius could take over.
Honestly Revendreth and anything connected to it is one part that I've never read or heard any complaints about by any player.

I'll have to go over there but I think there is a lore item in the crypt suggesting Lucard was transformed the same way Admiral Goreblade was; by Talgath into a vampiric form of undeath through the Dreadblades. Could be that the Darkfallen is a special form of Necromancy that the Nathrezim used on the San'layn. It makes sense that Eredar like Talgath may have been taught such magic and that the Valkyr serving Zovaal may have also known this same form of undeath (since they bestowed it on Nathanos and Sylvanas).

Wish SHadowlands never happened and Revendreth was the remnants of Nathreza. Which is where I assume Denathrius went.

[Wangming]

I'll have to go over there but I think there is a lore item in the crypt suggesting Lucard was transformed the same way Admiral Goreblade was; by Talgath into a vampiric form of undeath through the Dreadblades. Could be that the Darkfallen is a special form of Necromancy that the Nathrezim used on the San'layn. It makes sense that Eredar like Talgath may have been taught such magic and that the Valkyr serving Zovaal may have also known this same form of undeath (since they bestowed it on Nathanos and Sylvanas).

Wish SHadowlands never happened and Revendreth was the remnants of Nathreza. Which is where I assume Denathrius went.

Well considering the venthyr and Denathrius I wouldn't be surprised if vampirism ended up being related to Nathrezim via blades not unlike the one Denathrius is contained in.
That could lead to some cool phase transitions. You beat a boss, but they stab themselves with their swords and turn into vampires.

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I think the whole deal where the San'layn killed and consumed a whole bunch of Forsaken likely undercut diplomatic relations with the Horde a tad.

But who knows, this was BfA Horde, where nothing short of complete and utter annihilation of the Horde as a whole was enough to make them consider not backing Sylvanas' plans, so maybe they considered a few lost troops an acceptable trade for vampires.

Well they need something to counter werewolves on the Alliance side. Time to recruit their mortal enemies.

[draugril]

I'll have to go over there but I think there is a lore item in the crypt suggesting Lucard was transformed the same way Admiral Goreblade was; by Talgath into a vampiric form of undeath through the Dreadblades. Could be that the Darkfallen is a special form of Necromancy that the Nathrezim used on the San'layn. It makes sense that Eredar like Talgath may have been taught such magic and that the Valkyr serving Zovaal may have also known this same form of undeath (since they bestowed it on Nathanos and Sylvanas).

Wish SHadowlands never happened and Revendreth was the remnants of Nathreza. Which is where I assume Denathrius went.

The fact that any individual dreadlord would ultimately serve anyone but themselves rubs me the wrong way.

[Wangming]

The fact that any individual dreadlord would ultimately serve anyone but themselves rubs me the wrong way.

They think they don't, but they do.

[Nymrohd]

The fact that any individual dreadlord would ultimately serve anyone but themselves rubs me the wrong way.

I like the idea that they would betray everyone else but not each other (unless under extreme duress like with Varimathras) and certainly not their dad. I think it's much more interesting to have a race that is extremely deceitful and at the same time extremely loyal to their own.