Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Melorandor]

18 long days.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I don't know if that makes sense. Sylvar appear to be fully native beings of the Shadowlands like Dredgers or Stewards, not incarnated mortal souls like most Venthyr or the Kyrians.

Yeah! But even that's part of why I like it. They could be vessels in a way that the bodies of incarnated souls on the Shadowlands aren't, because they are linked to the Arbiter's judgement.

Something that I find very salient is that the NE souls haven't being judged by the Arbiter, and that makes me wishful think that perhaps there is a loophole for them to get out of the Shadowlands. And say unlike a Venthyr or Kyrian who has already been judged, and now part of the higher purpose of the Shadowlands, a Sylvar vessel is not related to that, because they are not meant to be inhabited by mortal souls.

But indeed, regardless of the plausibility of Sylvar as an Allied Race, I still think there could be a possibility of a loophole for NE souls to reincarnate in Azeroth. or maybe its just tinfoil hatting haha.

[Marlamin]

I see. Thanks for the responses. So if it's got store related things, it could also be a in-game store bundle? Or is everything pointing to it being part of a deluxe addition that many believe?

In-game store bundle/Deluxe rewards could simply be referring to the same thing like it has been in the past.

[Elflover99]

Yeah! But even that's part of why I like it. They could be vessels in a way that the bodies of incarnated souls on the Shadowlands aren't, because they are linked to the Arbiter's judgement.

Something that I find very salient is that the NE souls haven't being judged by the Arbiter, and that makes me wishful think that perhaps there is a loophole for them to get out of the Shadowlands. And say unlike a Venthyr or Kyrian who has already been judged, and now part of the higher purpose of the Shadowlands, a Sylvar vessel is not related to that, because they are not meant to be inhabited by mortal souls.

But indeed, regardless of the plausibility of Sylvar as an Allied Race, I still think there could be a possibility of a loophole for NE souls to reincarnate in Azeroth. or maybe its just tinfoil hatting haha.

I think there is a chance that the dead Nelves may channel their souls into this new world tree. They keep saying they have a “purpose” they don’t know about and it would give them a poignant nature themed end.

Of course the WQ may just juice up the seed and no ghosts have to die. But it would be cool if it was their idea and it couldn’t happen without them.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I think there is a chance that the dead Nelves may channel their souls into this new world tree. They keep saying they have a “purpose” they don’t know about and it would give them a poignant nature themed end.

Of course the WQ may just juice up the seed and no ghosts have to die. But it would be cool if it was their idea and it couldn’t happen without them.

Indeed, I think that *something* has to be done with the Night Elven souls, regardless of what specifically.

I do think that basically being used as fuel for a new World Tree would be kinda sad...

BUT if re-emerged from that tree with new forms NOW that would be just aces.

[Elflover99]

Indeed, I think that *something* has to be done with the Night Elven souls, regardless of what specifically.

I do think that basically being used as fuel for a new World Tree would be kinda sad...

BUT if re-emerged from that tree with new forms NOW that would be just aces.

I think it would be less fuel and more like their gift. That one Nelf starter zone guy would be the perfect reason for it.

But it takes away from being the QUEENS gift. So I’m unsure. They may just let them have a happy ending and the seed is WQs gift to Tyrande for not being stupid and saving Ardenweald.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

Indeed, I think that *something* has to be done with the Night Elven souls, regardless of what specifically.

I do think that basically being used as fuel for a new World Tree would be kinda sad...

BUT if re-emerged from that tree with new forms NOW that would be just aces.

Oh god, I would love something like that. Perhaps as their old Night Elven selves, or forms derived from Ardenweald, acting as an excuse to give us allied races in the form of SL races or something of the sort.

I'd like that for one very obvious reason.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I think it would be less fuel and more like their gift. That one Nelf starter zone guy would be the perfect reason for it.

But it takes away from being the QUEENS gift. So I’m unsure. They may just let them have a happy ending and the seed is WQs gift to Tyrande for not being stupid and saving Ardenweald.

That's also the issue, it wouldn't sit well with me that NE's would have to make another sacrifice after all what has happened, yanno? As noble as the NE souls channeling themselves for a new world tree, it just, wouldn't sit well with me on those terms.

Also tho, the seed itself was made by Elune and the WQ so it's not like it's wholly a WQ gift already, it is already tied to Elune and her power being wielded by Tyrande to avenge her people, so the fact that that very same power could literally be used for their regrowth, feels VERY plausible.

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Oh god, I would love something like that. Perhaps as their old Night Elven selves, or forms derived from Ardenweald, acting as an excuse to give us allied races in the form of SL races or something of the sort.

I'd like that for one very obvious reason.

I mean that's the thing! Sure it would be neat if they could be reborn as NE and all, BUT if they took the shape of one of the Ardenweald creatures, that's just more fun for us as players lol. New "races" are always a huge sell, and I genuinely think something like this would be a better option for SL AR's than if they just... decided to leave the afterlife and come to slump it up in Azeroth.

Such a thing would very much make the Sylvar alliance rather than neutral tho, so an Horde equivalent should be needed?

[Chickat]

This isnt really OT, but has anyone had the issue of not seeing the new vestige in ZM? It was hotfixed in a day or two and and still not showing for me.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

I mean that's the thing! Sure it would be neat if they could be reborn as NE and all, BUT if they took the shape of one of the Ardenweald creatures, that's just more fun for us as players lol. New "races" are always a huge sell, and I genuinely think something like this would be a better option for SL AR's than if they just... decided to leave the afterlife and come to slump it up in Azeroth.

Such a thing would very much make the Sylvar alliance rather than neutral tho, so an Horde equivalent should be needed?

Sylvar and Faeries (I fully admit bias) for the Alliance, and then those big bulky Necrolord zombies and... I dunno, aren't there small Necrolord people, for the Horde.

I feel it makes sense for the Necrolords. They like to fight, and, well, we already know they can traverse worlds at will because of Draka. Nothing says they can't come back to Azeroth for some reason.

[Edoll]

Anyone see the front page of MMO-Champion? They datamined a mount for the CE of Diablo 4, the “Amalgamation of Rage.”

[Therougetitan]

The encrypted stuff could be a few things. 10.0 Digital Deluxe stuff. D4 Mount. There could even be warcraft mobile related pets/mounts.

[Revamp Man]

I don't think it needed much confirming tbh. WoW expansions usually release roughly a year after their announcement. I've been fully expecting 10.0 to come out around April 2023 the whole time.

Any sooner would probably be a disaster anyway. As you said, they need time to get things right. I'm personally hoping they go the Legion route of giving us a long Alpha/Beta with a lot of community involvement and frequent dev updates. But maybe that's huffing too much copium.

Let’s look at season 4 as that 6 month gap and figure season 3 is 8 and assume alpha a few weeks after announcement
That would place alpha probably in may so plenty of test time
9.2.5 in October with season 4
Prepatch in March

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This isnt really OT, but has anyone had the issue of not seeing the new vestige in ZM? It was hotfixed in a day or two and and still not showing for me.

The new what?

[Chickat]

Let’s look at season 4 as that 6 month gap and figure season 3 is 8 and assume alpha a few weeks after announcement
That would place alpha probably in may so plenty of test time
9.2.5 in October with season 4
Prepatch in March

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The new what?

Its a reagent that lets you craft rank 1 leggos into rank 5 leggos ilev 249 for like 1/3 the price of a 291 leggo. Its not as good, but for poor people and alts. Also helps crafter level leggos easier since you can use the mats of a rank 1 instead of rank 2, 3, or 4 which can be up to 4 times as high. I had to spend over a million gold powerleveling JC leggo to max rank just a month ago. Kinda wish I had waited not, but whatever. The reason I want to buy them is so I can verify my auctions somewhat. I can have max rank ones and 249 ones to get more gold flowing it.

Oh and it was hotfixed into the game day before yesterday. Its up for just about everyone but I cant get it to show up on any of my characters.

[ercarp]

Let’s look at season 4 as that 6 month gap and figure season 3 is 8 and assume alpha a few weeks after announcement
That would place alpha probably in may so plenty of test time
9.2.5 in October with season 4
Prepatch in March

These are the estimates I posted in another thread a few days back:

10.0 Announcement: Apr 19 2022
Alpha: ~Aug 24 2022
Beta: ~Dec 8 2022
Pre-Patch: ~Mar 7 2023
Release: ~Apr 11 2023

[username993720]

Hmm, I gotta disagree on that point. Imo all they have to do is add this as the heritage armor and it would be perfect:

Yes to that. And to the female version:

[ercarp]

Yes to that. And to the female version:

Yup, it's pretty much the perfect Heritage Armor Set for NE imo. I would really like to see it happen.

[Revamp Man]

Its a reagent that lets you craft rank 1 leggos into rank 5 leggos ilev 249 for like 1/3 the price of a 291 leggo. Its not as good, but for poor people and alts. Also helps crafter level leggos easier since you can use the mats of a rank 1 instead of rank 2, 3, or 4 which can be up to 4 times as high. I had to spend over a million gold powerleveling JC leggo to max rank just a month ago. Kinda wish I had waited not, but whatever. The reason I want to buy them is so I can verify my auctions somewhat. I can have max rank ones and 249 ones to get more gold flowing it.

Oh and it was hotfixed into the game day before yesterday. Its up for just about everyone but I cant get it to show up on any of my characters.

you had my hopes up for the tier maker lol

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These are the estimates I posted in another thread a few days back:

10.0 Announcement: Apr 19 2022
Alpha: ~Aug 24 2022
Beta: ~Dec 8 2022
Pre-Patch: ~Mar 7 2023
Release: ~Apr 11 2023

i dont see a time when alpha is so late
its definitely possible especially with them being around 6 months behind but im too optimistic

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

These are the estimates I posted in another thread a few days back:

10.0 Announcement: Apr 19 2022
Alpha: ~Aug 24 2022
Beta: ~Dec 8 2022
Pre-Patch: ~Mar 7 2023
Release: ~Apr 11 2023

While I'm sure the strike last year put a damper on things, I'm not really sure they'd release that late.

At least, I hope. Presumably, the wait in announcing the expansion has nothing to do with delays, but rather the big controversy last year and the lack of a Blizzcon, they had to figure out a new way to announce things.

[Luck4]

Blizzard isn't holding the announcement for no reason, usually, there's a full year time gap between the announcement and the release. I don't think this time will be different.

We must bear into our minds that Blizzard can't fail this time. I mean, I'm on the horde side, and I'm having to play at prime-time to improve my score, but this season just started, this makes me wonder how season 4 will play out... it's kinda scary...

The most deadly thing for an MMO isn't bad lore, bad design, bad balance, it's the lack of players. I still remember when HOTS started to have 10 mins queues and many friends I made there, myself included, stopped playing solely because the queue times had become unbearable.