Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Fahrad Wagner]

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

It might be a mis-interpretation from the players, gonna check on live servers what it looks like.

Marlamin can you confirm if that skybox is the same as Arathi's? I think it's just Arathi's skybox bleeding into Hillsbrad/Wetlands/Hinterlands.

I think that's what it is precisely.

[Dragonflighters]

Exactly, and they've been tiptoeing around with things that were added and were clearly bringing new HD models for older buildings. The Darkshore NE buildings which never used, the portal rooms being very HD, the Human buildings, most of the old world creatures being revamped progressively (like, I'm sorry, but quilboars in KT made no sense other than "OK quilboars need to be updated for our world revamp project, let's used them in KT too, two birds one stone).

I am now convinced the Lordaeron shield dropping from Mal'Ganis is this expansion's Suramar cloak. We're gonna see either a Northern EK revamp + Dragon Isles, and other continents revamped through patches/expansions (living world mechanic of campaign taking place progressively on Azeroth?) OR a full world revamp + one zone being the Dragon Isles.

I think for old models needing updated we are just down to gnolls, centaurs and dragons, and now we know all the dragon stuff will be updated.

The Kalimdor centaurs may be coming back based on the Ardenweald centaurs, and gnolls... will PROBABLY get an update because Hogger.

[Marlamin]

Marlamin can you confirm if that skybox is the same as Arathi's? I think it's just Arathi's skybox bleeding into Hillsbrad/Wetlands/Hinterlands.

Nope, cannot confirm or deny based on what I'm seeing in data.

[Graden]

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

There's always the chance that this could be a bug right? Like Arathi’s new skybox unintentionally bleeding into nearby zones.

[Kohtra]

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

I'm pretty sure weather, with the included sky box changes, are client side on live. Two players can be standing next to each other in the same zone and have different weather. At least that's how it was on the 9.1.5 PTR when I tested it with the new Stormwind weather.

[Feali]

Exactly, and they've been tiptoeing around with things that were added and were clearly bringing new HD models for older buildings. The Darkshore NE buildings which never used, the portal rooms being very HD, the Human buildings, most of the old world creatures being revamped progressively (like, I'm sorry, but quilboars in KT made no sense other than "OK quilboars need to be updated for our world revamp project, let's used them in KT too, two birds one stone).

I am now convinced the Lordaeron shield dropping from Mal'Ganis is this expansion's Suramar cloak. We're gonna see either a Northern EK revamp + Dragon Isles, and other continents revamped through patches/expansions (living world mechanic of campaign taking place progressively on Azeroth?) OR a full world revamp + one zone being the Dragon Isles.

If we get another revamp of the old world I really hope it comes with a Chromie NPC this time so we can play both versions. Like they did with Blasted Lands.

[ZyntosAran]

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

Hm, maybe its preperation for an "ingame event of sorts", maybe glimpses onto the dragon isles at specific timeframes. If I remember correctly, before Legion came out, WOD had the fell reaver sound when flying to and from ashran.

[Fahrad Wagner]

I think for old models needing updated we are just down to gnolls, centaurs and dragons, and now we know all the dragon stuff will be updated.

The Kalimdor centaurs may be coming back based on the Ardenweald centaurs, and gnolls... will PROBABLY get an update because Hogger.

Quite a few more but, yes, gnolls, centaurs, dragons, giraffes, lions (kind of), and a few more irrelevant ones which I may be forgetting.

[Marlamin]

I'm pretty sure weather, with the included sky box changes, are client side on live. Two players can be standing next to each other in the same zone and have different weather. At least that's how it was on the 9.1.5 PTR when I tested it with the new Stormwind weather.

I'm at a loss then, I guess I have no idea how the weather/skybox system works then.

[Fahrad Wagner]

If we get another revamp of the old world I really hope it comes with a Chromie NPC this time so we can play both versions. Like they did with Blasted Lands.

I hope it doesn't come with a Chromie NPC but on a completely different map instead. With old Cata world accessible through Caverns of Time.

[Dragonflighters]

Quite a few more but, yes, gnolls, centaurs, dragons, giraffes, lions (kind of), and a few more irrelevant ones which I may be forgetting.

AKA enough to get finished in one launch patch. I know boars were a big one with a lot of variations and they got finished in SL.

[Feali]

I hope it doesn't come with a Chromie NPC but on a completely different map instead. With old Cata world accessible through Caverns of Time.

Or that. I just hate it when they change old zones/dungeons/raids and they are not accessible in their original version anymore.

[Raetary]

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

I think it might just be a visual bug.
On live Hillbrad has the hd skybox as well, but when i relogged while in the zone, the old one pops up for a few seconds before the Arathi one gets forced over it.
https://i.imgur.com/qaIokVm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zuhDJ8Z.jpg (upon login)

[Fahrad Wagner]

I think it might just be a visual bug.
On live Hillbrad has the hd skybox as well, but when i relogged while in the zone, the old one pops up for a few seconds before the Arathi one gets forced over it.
https://i.imgur.com/qaIokVm.jpg

Not for me.

On live I came to the zone with the exact same path as on PTR, and I have the old skybox.

Something is fishy about that...

Or that. I just hate it when they change old zones/dungeons/raids and they are not accessible in their original version anymore.

Yeah me too, but I hate that NPC system, it's so inconvenient, I'd really have them rebuild everything to the scale they see fit. A new beginning for good old Azeroth!

[Grimbold21]

Lol why? I wouldn't even be sure if we get a new class at all. The write up leak seems at best coincidental yet utterly false, at worst true but peppered with absolute nonsense to protect the source. Micro classes are the absolute antithesis of WoWs current design philosphy, it would have more sense to make them 4th specs, because with their new commitment to class sets they just added a shit ton of extra work for little wanky classes that barely amount to 1 spec, yet 4 of those. It would be easier to tack those single specs to existing classes like warrior, hunter, rogue and mage than actually make them a new class each. All while going with the skins idea for another couple specs. Even if Team 2 were desperate to please the fans suddenly, that seems a strech even for the thirstiest whore.

Why my hopes are gone or why don't I want a Dragon themed class?

Firstly because WoW players (some anyway) are rather childish in their never ending pursuit for new classes, and if the next expansion is Dragon themed and we do get a new class, then it only makes sense that a new class be framed within the xpac's theme.

And secondly, because I think a dragon themed class feels entirely outlandish, foreign.

[Dragonflighters]

There's a few things about that Dragonflight text leak that I think are pretty clever.

Undermine: seems random at first, but Goblins were made playable directly through Deathwing's actions and it's kiiiind of like Deepholm. So it fits a Cata 2.

Occupied SMC: mirrors Suramar not only in "lol elf city raid" but on a deeper level because the Nightborne and Blood Elves are now besties. I am suspect of this though because people will be furious that they can't just chill in the city.


I don't believe the leak but these are two things I hadn't considered before and think they are somewhat likely.

[Feali]

There's a few things about that Dragonflight text leak that I think are pretty clever.

Undermine: seems random at first, but Goblins were made playable directly through Deathwing's actions. So it fits a Cata 2.

Occupied SMC: mirrors Suramar not only in "lol elf city raid" but on a deeper level because the Nightborne and Blood Elves are now besties. I am suspect of this though because people will be furious that they can't just chill in the city.


I don't believe the leak but these are two things I hadn't considered before and think they are somewhat likely.

Undermine doesn't really seem so random when you think about that it has probably been in every leak since Cataclysm.

[Dragonflighters]

And secondly, because I think a dragon themed class feels entirely outlandish, foreign.

Isn't that usually the case? DKs, Monks, DH, they all have their own unique culture added with their inclusion. Even DHs were made weirder than they were in TBC just so they could have a more unique culture.

[Aydinx2]

Most people don't wish to have fictional mediums flooded with unnecessary real-world issues.

Most people do, they just don't realize it and throw a fit when suddenly the real world issues are against them.

"Keep politics out of videogames!"
*Has over 1000 hours in Call of Duty*

[Dragonflighters]

Undermine doesn't really seem so random when you think about that it has probably been in every leak since Cataclysm.

It seems random in the context of a dragon themed expansion. But when its considered a Cataclysm 2 it starts to make more sense.

Who would have suspected Uldum and Gilneas in an expansion with a giant lava dragon on the cover?