Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Dragonflighters]

Big world revamp in the vein of Cata 2.0 was a big talking point like 5 months ago, but sort of fell to the wayside when everything shifted toward Dragon Isles. While still possible, I think it’s more likely (via 9.2.5) we’ll see parts of Lordaeron tinkered with, which would need those new human assets.

I mean if you only saw the box and logo for Cataclysm I don't think you would expect a revamp, just an expansion about a bad dragon.

The dragon stuff will just be endgame/marketing/NEW new content.

[Wangming]

Surprised I haven't seen more talk about a likely world revamp, now that we know we are moving towards Cata 2.

Unless all those new human buildings are on the Dragon Isles?

All those new human buildings? Did I miss something?

[uikolertekopoku]

Does anybody really beleive the current Team is capable to pull something like cataclysm wit revamp and new zones off??

I dont see it.

[Fahrad Wagner]

All those new human buildings? Did I miss something?

Many new human buildings were datamined months ago in 9.1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUOiuUtfdlM

This sums it up quite well!

Does anybody really beleive the current Team is capable to pull something like cataclysm wit revamp and new zones off??

I dont see it.

I do if the work has been done on the side of other expansions, since Legion for example. Loads of assets were upgraded progressively too.

[Dragonflighters]

I do if the work has been done on the side of other expansions, since Legion for example. Loads of assets were upgraded progressively too.

This + smaller expansion before it + extra dev time, which seems to be the case for 10.0 releasing in 2023.

[Marlamin]

And I had checked myself when it was discussed: it was legit, just not applied to the whole zone, like the ruins of Dalaran didn't have that skybox but south of Hillsbrad did

Just checked the PTR: Hillsbrad's updated skybox is still here.

https://imgur.com/a/JBseA1Z

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

[Feali]

Does anybody really beleive the current Team is capable to pull something like cataclysm wit revamp and new zones off??

I dont see it.

They got that Microsoft money now though.

[Fahrad Wagner]

This + smaller expansion before it + extra dev time, which seems to be the case for 10.0 releasing in 2023.

Exactly, and they've been tiptoeing around with things that were added and were clearly bringing new HD models for older buildings. The Darkshore NE buildings which never used, the portal rooms being very HD, the Human buildings, most of the old world creatures being revamped progressively (like, I'm sorry, but quilboars in KT made no sense other than "OK quilboars need to be updated for our world revamp project, let's used them in KT too, two birds one stone).

I am now convinced the Lordaeron shield dropping from Mal'Ganis is this expansion's Suramar cloak. We're gonna see either a Northern EK revamp + Dragon Isles, and other continents revamped through patches/expansions (living world mechanic of campaign taking place progressively on Azeroth?) OR a full world revamp + one zone being the Dragon Isles.

[Cosmic Janitor]

They got that Microsoft money now though.

The deal hasn't even gone through yet..

[Dragonflighters]

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

Marlamin can you confirm if that skybox is the same as Arathi's? I think it's just Arathi's skybox bleeding into Hillsbrad/Wetlands/Hinterlands.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

It might be a mis-interpretation from the players, gonna check on live servers what it looks like.

Marlamin can you confirm if that skybox is the same as Arathi's? I think it's just Arathi's skybox bleeding into Hillsbrad/Wetlands/Hinterlands.

I think that's what it is precisely.

[Dragonflighters]

Exactly, and they've been tiptoeing around with things that were added and were clearly bringing new HD models for older buildings. The Darkshore NE buildings which never used, the portal rooms being very HD, the Human buildings, most of the old world creatures being revamped progressively (like, I'm sorry, but quilboars in KT made no sense other than "OK quilboars need to be updated for our world revamp project, let's used them in KT too, two birds one stone).

I am now convinced the Lordaeron shield dropping from Mal'Ganis is this expansion's Suramar cloak. We're gonna see either a Northern EK revamp + Dragon Isles, and other continents revamped through patches/expansions (living world mechanic of campaign taking place progressively on Azeroth?) OR a full world revamp + one zone being the Dragon Isles.

I think for old models needing updated we are just down to gnolls, centaurs and dragons, and now we know all the dragon stuff will be updated.

The Kalimdor centaurs may be coming back based on the Ardenweald centaurs, and gnolls... will PROBABLY get an update because Hogger.

[Marlamin]

Marlamin can you confirm if that skybox is the same as Arathi's? I think it's just Arathi's skybox bleeding into Hillsbrad/Wetlands/Hinterlands.

Nope, cannot confirm or deny based on what I'm seeing in data.

[Graden]

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

There's always the chance that this could be a bug right? Like Arathi’s new skybox unintentionally bleeding into nearby zones.

[Kohtra]

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

I'm pretty sure weather, with the included sky box changes, are client side on live. Two players can be standing next to each other in the same zone and have different weather. At least that's how it was on the 9.1.5 PTR when I tested it with the new Stormwind weather.

[Feali]

Exactly, and they've been tiptoeing around with things that were added and were clearly bringing new HD models for older buildings. The Darkshore NE buildings which never used, the portal rooms being very HD, the Human buildings, most of the old world creatures being revamped progressively (like, I'm sorry, but quilboars in KT made no sense other than "OK quilboars need to be updated for our world revamp project, let's used them in KT too, two birds one stone).

I am now convinced the Lordaeron shield dropping from Mal'Ganis is this expansion's Suramar cloak. We're gonna see either a Northern EK revamp + Dragon Isles, and other continents revamped through patches/expansions (living world mechanic of campaign taking place progressively on Azeroth?) OR a full world revamp + one zone being the Dragon Isles.

If we get another revamp of the old world I really hope it comes with a Chromie NPC this time so we can play both versions. Like they did with Blasted Lands.

[ZyntosAran]

Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

Hm, maybe its preperation for an "ingame event of sorts", maybe glimpses onto the dragon isles at specific timeframes. If I remember correctly, before Legion came out, WOD had the fell reaver sound when flying to and from ashran.

[Fahrad Wagner]

I think for old models needing updated we are just down to gnolls, centaurs and dragons, and now we know all the dragon stuff will be updated.

The Kalimdor centaurs may be coming back based on the Ardenweald centaurs, and gnolls... will PROBABLY get an update because Hogger.

Quite a few more but, yes, gnolls, centaurs, dragons, giraffes, lions (kind of), and a few more irrelevant ones which I may be forgetting.

[Marlamin]

I'm pretty sure weather, with the included sky box changes, are client side on live. Two players can be standing next to each other in the same zone and have different weather. At least that's how it was on the 9.1.5 PTR when I tested it with the new Stormwind weather.

I'm at a loss then, I guess I have no idea how the weather/skybox system works then.

[Fahrad Wagner]

If we get another revamp of the old world I really hope it comes with a Chromie NPC this time so we can play both versions. Like they did with Blasted Lands.

I hope it doesn't come with a Chromie NPC but on a completely different map instead. With old Cata world accessible through Caverns of Time.