1. #35041
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonflighters View Post
    Surprised I haven't seen more talk about a likely world revamp, now that we know we are moving towards Cata 2.

    Unless all those new human buildings are on the Dragon Isles?
    Big world revamp in the vein of Cata 2.0 was a big talking point like 5 months ago, but sort of fell to the wayside when everything shifted toward Dragon Isles. While still possible, I think it’s more likely (via 9.2.5) we’ll see parts of Lordaeron tinkered with, which would need those new human assets.

  2. #35042
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonflighters View Post
    Surprised I haven't seen more talk about a likely world revamp, now that we know we are moving towards Cata 2.

    Unless all those new human buildings are on the Dragon Isles?
    Or Lordaeron/Plaguelands. Which is the part of an eventual revamp that is heavily discussed!

  3. #35043
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    I found the way the leak broke down certain things interesting. Maybe we need to look at it holistically and put 2+2 together. I think it's possible this isn't 4 NEW classes, but instead SHARED 4th specs for certain classes. The classes where it maybe doesn't make much sense just happen to be the ones getting the cosmetic class skins.... coincidence?
    That's so funny, I had this same wish three years ago!

    Quote Originally Posted by Futhark View Post
    This class is my favorite theme that could be developed as Extended Specs. Everyone (including the devs) complain that 4th specs adds too much work, but three new specs shared amongst the existing class is a feasible idea that can shore up the roles that current classes don't have. Each of the below classes can become "Dragonsworn" by swearing themselves to the respective Dragon Flights and picking up an extended role to add more flexibility to max level classes you already have!

    Black-Flight Tank Spec: Shaman, Warlock, Rogue
    Red-Flight Healer Spec: Mage, Hunter, Warrior(?)
    Blue-Flight Caster Spec: Monk, Paladin, DK, DH

    I would play a Black-Flight Shaman Tank all day.

  4. #35044
    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Big world revamp in the vein of Cata 2.0 was a big talking point like 5 months ago, but sort of fell to the wayside when everything shifted toward Dragon Isles. While still possible, I think it’s more likely (via 9.2.5) we’ll see parts of Lordaeron tinkered with, which would need those new human assets.
    I mean if you only saw the box and logo for Cataclysm I don't think you would expect a revamp, just an expansion about a bad dragon.

    The dragon stuff will just be endgame/marketing/NEW new content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonflighters View Post
    Surprised I haven't seen more talk about a likely world revamp, now that we know we are moving towards Cata 2.

    Unless all those new human buildings are on the Dragon Isles?
    All those new human buildings? Did I miss something?

  6. #35046
    Does anybody really beleive the current Team is capable to pull something like cataclysm wit revamp and new zones off??

    I dont see it.

  7. #35047
    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    All those new human buildings? Did I miss something?
    Many new human buildings were datamined months ago in 9.1.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUOiuUtfdlM

    This sums it up quite well!

    Quote Originally Posted by uikolertekopoku View Post
    Does anybody really beleive the current Team is capable to pull something like cataclysm wit revamp and new zones off??

    I dont see it.
    I do if the work has been done on the side of other expansions, since Legion for example. Loads of assets were upgraded progressively too.

  8. #35048
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post

    I do if the work has been done on the side of other expansions, since Legion for example. Loads of assets were upgraded progressively too.
    This + smaller expansion before it + extra dev time, which seems to be the case for 10.0 releasing in 2023.

  9. #35049
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    And I had checked myself when it was discussed: it was legit, just not applied to the whole zone, like the ruins of Dalaran didn't have that skybox but south of Hillsbrad did

    Just checked the PTR: Hillsbrad's updated skybox is still here.

    https://imgur.com/a/JBseA1Z
    Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uikolertekopoku View Post
    Does anybody really beleive the current Team is capable to pull something like cataclysm wit revamp and new zones off??

    I dont see it.
    They got that Microsoft money now though.

  11. #35051
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonflighters View Post
    This + smaller expansion before it + extra dev time, which seems to be the case for 10.0 releasing in 2023.
    Exactly, and they've been tiptoeing around with things that were added and were clearly bringing new HD models for older buildings. The Darkshore NE buildings which never used, the portal rooms being very HD, the Human buildings, most of the old world creatures being revamped progressively (like, I'm sorry, but quilboars in KT made no sense other than "OK quilboars need to be updated for our world revamp project, let's used them in KT too, two birds one stone).

    I am now convinced the Lordaeron shield dropping from Mal'Ganis is this expansion's Suramar cloak. We're gonna see either a Northern EK revamp + Dragon Isles, and other continents revamped through patches/expansions (living world mechanic of campaign taking place progressively on Azeroth?) OR a full world revamp + one zone being the Dragon Isles.

  12. #35052
    Quote Originally Posted by Feali View Post
    They got that Microsoft money now though.
    The deal hasn't even gone through yet..
    You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.

  13. #35053
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.
    Marlamin can you confirm if that skybox is the same as Arathi's? I think it's just Arathi's skybox bleeding into Hillsbrad/Wetlands/Hinterlands.

  14. #35054
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.
    It might be a mis-interpretation from the players, gonna check on live servers what it looks like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonflighters View Post
    Marlamin can you confirm if that skybox is the same as Arathi's? I think it's just Arathi's skybox bleeding into Hillsbrad/Wetlands/Hinterlands.
    I think that's what it is precisely.

  15. #35055
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    Exactly, and they've been tiptoeing around with things that were added and were clearly bringing new HD models for older buildings. The Darkshore NE buildings which never used, the portal rooms being very HD, the Human buildings, most of the old world creatures being revamped progressively (like, I'm sorry, but quilboars in KT made no sense other than "OK quilboars need to be updated for our world revamp project, let's used them in KT too, two birds one stone).

    I am now convinced the Lordaeron shield dropping from Mal'Ganis is this expansion's Suramar cloak. We're gonna see either a Northern EK revamp + Dragon Isles, and other continents revamped through patches/expansions (living world mechanic of campaign taking place progressively on Azeroth?) OR a full world revamp + one zone being the Dragon Isles.
    I think for old models needing updated we are just down to gnolls, centaurs and dragons, and now we know all the dragon stuff will be updated.

    The Kalimdor centaurs may be coming back based on the Ardenweald centaurs, and gnolls... will PROBABLY get an update because Hogger.

  16. #35056
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonflighters View Post
    Marlamin can you confirm if that skybox is the same as Arathi's? I think it's just Arathi's skybox bleeding into Hillsbrad/Wetlands/Hinterlands.
    Nope, cannot confirm or deny based on what I'm seeing in data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.
    There's always the chance that this could be a bug right? Like Arathi’s new skybox unintentionally bleeding into nearby zones.

  18. #35058
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.
    I'm pretty sure weather, with the included sky box changes, are client side on live. Two players can be standing next to each other in the same zone and have different weather. At least that's how it was on the 9.1.5 PTR when I tested it with the new Stormwind weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    Exactly, and they've been tiptoeing around with things that were added and were clearly bringing new HD models for older buildings. The Darkshore NE buildings which never used, the portal rooms being very HD, the Human buildings, most of the old world creatures being revamped progressively (like, I'm sorry, but quilboars in KT made no sense other than "OK quilboars need to be updated for our world revamp project, let's used them in KT too, two birds one stone).

    I am now convinced the Lordaeron shield dropping from Mal'Ganis is this expansion's Suramar cloak. We're gonna see either a Northern EK revamp + Dragon Isles, and other continents revamped through patches/expansions (living world mechanic of campaign taking place progressively on Azeroth?) OR a full world revamp + one zone being the Dragon Isles.
    If we get another revamp of the old world I really hope it comes with a Chromie NPC this time so we can play both versions. Like they did with Blasted Lands.

  20. #35060
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Very interesting, there are no changes to any skybox related things in 9.2.5 which is why this surprises me. Maybe they can change these from the server end of things now by settings a certain weather type for a zone? Hmm.
    Hm, maybe its preperation for an "ingame event of sorts", maybe glimpses onto the dragon isles at specific timeframes. If I remember correctly, before Legion came out, WOD had the fell reaver sound when flying to and from ashran.

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