Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Wangming]

So what does it mean. Explain it. How can you be inanimate, but not dead? Are you telling me all his vital signs are still there? His heart is still beating? Blood is circulating through his veins? Is he getting fed? Does he poop? While being inanimate?

Dude, chill out drink a beer and come back when you are ready to have a discussion. Since you came all you did was complain about your poorly researched ideas and agressively demanded answers from everyone.

But just to indulge you one last time the way I understand is that it wasn't truly alive to begin with, therefor it can't be qualified as dead either. It was an experiment by Nefarian that got pumped full of magic by the Twilight Hammer untill it started to move. Much like the Old Gods Chromatus doesn't really operate with the same way when it comes to life and death. But that might be utter bullshit as that's just my interpretation.

[Dragon Knight]

re·vive
/rəˈvīv/
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verb
restore to life or consciousness.

Alexstrazsa herself at the end of the book flat out states Chromatus isn't really dead

So he has been unconscious for 10 years now? You're telling me they were able to knock that dragon unconscious for 10 years but weren't able to kill it? And in the meantime they're feeding it so it can stay alive?

Does any of this make sense?

Furthermore, whether he is unconscious or dead, it's both the same in the end in regards to how much of a threat he is. Whether you need to revive him from unconsciousness or resurrect him from death as an undead, it's both equally possible and puts him into roughly the same position.

[Nymrohd]

Yes, that is what I meant.

I have noted how even zones like Silithius which have all the same quests and very little changes were monstrous tasks. Even porting over quests required extensive work to basically rebuild every quest so the new map coordinates, triggers, etc. It's why Wrathgate Battle for Undercity just had to be let go.

It's also why they can't just simply plop over the TBC starting zones - especially as they've been piling on Artifact quests, Allied Races unlock quests and Heritage Armor quests in them as well.

Yeah I think a revamp would just have to be a fully separate continent.

[ercarp]

At least in my eyes though I could be blind

Nah, you're right, the dragon in the key art doesn't look like Alexstrasza in most official artwork we've seen until now. But it could just be that they've redesigned her model to look that way.

[Dragon Knight]

Dude, chill out drink a beer and come back when you are ready to have a discussion.

You're the one that has nothing of relevance to say, go back to school child.

[Nymrohd]

So he has been unconscious for 10 years now? You're telling me they were able to knock that dragon unconscious for 10 years but weren't able to kill it? And in the meantime they're feeding it so it can stay alive?

Does any of this make sense?

Furthermore, whether he is unconscious or dead, it's both the same in the end in regards to how much of a threat he is. Whether you need to revive him from unconsciousness or resurrect him from death as an undead, it's both equally possible and puts him into roughly the same position.

It's locked in an arcane prison so it's probably in stasis.

[Raetary]

Ok so apparently Chromatus is dead. Why would he be a threat?

Chromatus is an amalgamation made of a dragon of each Dragonflight, it's essentially a construct and requires 3rd party magic to animate it.
Chromatus' body was never destroyed, so they sealed it away so nobody can bring him back.

The plot would obviously be about someone or some faction stealing his corpse and bringing him back.

Now that we cleared that up, could we stop with the pointless semantics games?

Are people sure that dragon in the back is supposed to be Alex btw?

It looks purple to mee. Could me a chromatic dragon

It's is very clearly Alexstrazsa.

[Revamp Man]

It might not be, I haven't thought about it too much until just now.

For comparison, here's Bayard Wu's illustration of Alexstrasza from 4 years ago—who I suspect is also the artist behind this key art due to the similar way they paint dragons.



They actually look quite different. The purple-ish dragon in the key art looks more like a male dragon to me.

Key art also doesn’t have the small side horns

[ClassicPeon]

They did a slight re-design to her mortal form, stands to reason the dragon form would get it too. Besides the general shape of rthe jaws being more slim, it has all the exact same features.. Two Gold ornaments on each of the big horns, in the exact same spot, the two small protruding chin spikes, the cheeks frills, and the nose horn that 'also' sports a gold ornament

It would be weird for a Dragon to look almost 1:1 identical to her but.....not be her

There are many simmilarities indeed. A few differences aswell but that could be down to artistic freedom.

idk. I guess i just dont filly get what the point of having alex on the cover would be. Even if she is a central figure.

[Dragonflighters]

I still want a full world revamp so I’m okay if the text leak isn’t correct.

[Dragon Knight]

We revive people who are not dead all the time, that's the point of resuscitation. The book makes it clear that the Aspects could not put Chromatus down that's why they imprisoned him. Why would you imprison something that's dead? Inanimate means not capable of animation, that is, motion. Chromatus is just unconscious.

None of this makes sense. If they imprisoned him, then he was already put down. If he's unconscious, why can't they kill him? How can you fail at that? Is his skin made out of a material that is uncuttable?

[Throren]

Also I think this is the hanging jewel Alex had from her jaw, just shrunk down to a more reasonable/realistic size and not look like a weird giant pendulum.

[Fahrad Wagner]

@Wangming don't bite back my friend, it's clearly done out of bad faith to irritate the posters of this thread. Let us move on from the sterile debate of whether words actually mean exactly what they mean hehe

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

There are many simmilarities indeed. A few differences aswell but that could be down to artistic freedom.

idk. I guess i just dont filly get what the point of having alex on the cover would be. Even if she is a central figure.

There's a piece missing right now from what we know, and obviously that's the piece the Chromatus discussion could answer.

We still don't know the why, and that's been the issue that's haunted Dragon Isles from the start. Why do we need to go there, what is there that could be important to whatever major event either is presently or will in 11.0 be happening?

[Raetary]

Key art also doesn’t have the small side horns

It does:

[Dragon Knight]

Chromatus is an amalgamation made of a dragon of each Dragonflight, it's essentially a construct and requires 3rd party magic to animate it.
Chromatus' body was never destroyed, so they sealed it away so nobody can bring him back.

The plot would obviously be about someone or some faction stealing his corpse and bringing him back.

Now that we cleared that up, could we stop with the pointless semantics games?

None of this makes sense.

[ClassicPeon]

You're the one that has nothing of relevance to say, go back to school child.

You are antagonizing everyone bro. He is right you know? Calm down a little. We are just discussing things here, there is no need to take everything personally

[huth]

I always like to point out that it wasn't even redoing every zone. It was a recreation of every zone. One of the devs said that basically they just deleted the entire EK/Kalimdor file and rebuilt it from scratch to make it

A) Compatible for Flight
and
B) Look suitably Blown Up.
and
C) Have space for those extra zones.

Like a lot of folks probably underestimate how much work went into the revamp in Cata because it wasn't just slapping HD graphics and then updating quests, it was a total rebuild job.

And they still had to look recognisably similar to the original, which put a lot of limitations on what they could do. Making a fully new zone would have been less work since they could just go wild and didn't constantly have to double check if it still fits.

[Revamp Man]

Nah, you're right, the dragon in the key art doesn't look like Alexstrasza in most official artwork we've seen until now. But it could just be that they've redesigned her model to look that way.

I can’t see the set of medium horns on top of her head in the art so I’m assuming it’s a different dragon

That possibly means twilight flight plays a role after all she did try to show compassion to vexiona before she went void

[Throren]

None of this makes sense. If they imprisoned him, then he was already put down. If he's unconscious, why can't they kill him? How can you fail at that? Is his skin made out of a material that is uncuttable?

They go over it in the book, he's basically indestructible. No matter what the aspects did to him they couldn't actual harm his body in any way.. All they could do was basically put him in a magic induced super-coma and lock him away.