Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Hellspawn]

Hmm could be we get new capitals on both sides. Maybe the new Teldrassil will be planted ON the Dragon Isles and the Alliance hangs out in a new Night Elf Capital. As for the Horde, it all depends on where the Islands are. They could have them float above Lordaeron and have the Horde use a rebuilt Lordaeron City as their capital.

We'll most likely get some crappy lobby instead of a city ofc but I can dream.

The new Teldrassil grows up to the clouds and hit the Dragon Isle

[therumblings]

I'll eat my hat if the leak that said we are getting four new classes actually comes true. There's no way they would burden themselves with that much development work. Lucky guess on the name is most likely.

I agree. Though it would be cool to see tinkers, I think they are saving them for much later.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

The new Teldrassil grows up to the clouds and hit the Dragon Isle

Does that mean we are going to fight Giants?

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anything that wasn't Legion was "filler", lets be honest, wow is a world with different enemies and forces, we can focus each one of then, wow isn't a singleplayer game with a single storyline to have "fillers";

It was when they tried to do some 10years spawn story from expansions that got us into this mess, i for once gladly welcome something more "grounded and isolated" in the realms of the mortal world like cataclysm and MOP were, with just some elements of exterior forces.

I do hope wow try to piggyback the current success of dungeons and dragons and made something at least palatable.

Agreed. I actually rather like the new geometry motif and the lore around the actual, underlying structure of reality, but the real soul of WoW for me should be on Azeroth. These references to old theology are very good, but better suited to a palatable and structured plotline which can have some tangible connection to the world we're here for. There's a reason why everyone was so thoroughly apathetic to Shadowlands—it had no connection to Azeroth proper and simply felt like a complete departure from established lore.

I frankly am holding out hope that Dragonflight features a proper revamp or at least focuses on Lordaeron as much as the Dragon Isles. I'd prefer to see something familiar for once.

[deviantcultist]

this info is quite old, but tldr

yes, dragon isles
5 zones - blue/red/green/bronze surrounding black zone in center. center has a huge tower like wyrmrest but massively bigger.
there's one very large island off coast and a few small ones.

leveling - players align with a draconic house immediately when they start expansion
basically covenants but there is no/little player power, all cosmetic. no covenant abilities.
renown, soulbinds, mission table were all in but straight copy pasted from SL. they will likely be changed and/or removed.
there is anima type power to collect. covenants have a shared pool instead of 4 separate. 'anima' can also be spent on open world powerups.
linear story for leveling, but there are 4 variants based on which house you choose (determines order that you go through leveling zones)
stories converge at 68 when you enter center zone

black dragonflight zone central tower contains the big expansion system. it's sort of like torghast but each room is a single encounter with a miniboss or group of enemies (no trash). some rooms also had a non combat event/challenge. complete a room and choose the next one from a branching tree map. you can see type of encounter + room reward (ie anima power) type before choosing. final boss at end. unsure of permanent rewards/legendaries/etc tied to this system. it was more fun than torghast in my very limited experience.

story: wrathion trying to reunite aspects, etc. healing the land (center zone) with green dragon's help. infinite dragonflight sees him changing the timeline and interferes - they are subject of first raid. in the bronze zone because timey things.

cross faction is in. group through group finder only. could talk in party/raid chat but not in open world or public channels. no xfaction guilds.

no new class
talk of adding tank specs to some pure dps classes. hunter and warlock were being worked on. doubt this will actually make it to release.

I've seen patches in other MMOs with more meaningful content than this.

[Hipnos14]

I was thinking something about a way of connecting Lordaeron and the dragons. Do you guys remember how the plague from the Wrathgate was cleaned? dragon fire from the red dragons, so...what if we ask Alextrazsa to cleanse Lordaeron and something happens there that connects the whole thing?

[TriHard]

Dude, they are so royally fucked if the MMO C Dragonflight leak is not the real one, anything else would be a major disappointment in comparison.

I hope for their sake that they have something real bonkers for their expansion reveal.

[Vakir]

therewillbedragons got the date wrong and had a lot of stuff overlapping with Viking91's proposed Empire of Dragons, which obviously ended up being untrue. He was also, if I'm not mistaken, temporarily banned at first.

So I dunno. But that's the kind of low effort bullshit I'm anticipating.

[Calfredd]

Dude, they are so royally fucked if the MMO C Dragonflight leak is not the real one, anything else would be a major disappointment in comparison.

I hope for their sake that they have something real bonkers for their expansion reveal.

What like 10 one-spec classes instead of 4?

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

Dude, they are so royally fucked if the MMO C Dragonflight leak is not the real one, anything else would be a major disappointment in comparison.

I hope for their sake that they have something real bonkers for their expansion reveal.

Playable dragons in any form would be bonkers enough. The roleplayers would lose it.

[Villager720]

Playable dragons in any form would be bonkers enough. The roleplayers would lose it.

How would that work in combat though?
It’s one thing to turn into a werewolf when entering combat - it’s another to turn into a dragon and somehow not roflstomp the gnome rogue attempting to stab you with daggers the size of your scales in the arena.

And if you don’t become a dragon in combat …why?

[Bomba the Shaman]

I believe this leak is legit. Blizz leaked it on purpose to generate hype before the reveal on 19th. Last time they 'leaked' a screenshot of Bolvar and artwork of Bastion days before Shadowlands reveal on Blizzcon. This is the same thing essentially.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

How would that work in combat though?
It’s one thing to turn into a werewolf when entering combat - it’s another to turn into a dragon and somehow not roflstomp the gnome rogue attempting to stab you with daggers the size of your scales in the arena.

And if you don’t become a dragon in combat …why?

Note I said any form!

Dragonkin exist. Your dragon form can be something like this:



They could transform between a Dragonkin form and a humanoid form based off the current playable race but with draconian appearances. Horns, scales, tails: think Au'Ra from FFXIV.

[maplesyrupgl]

Dude, they are so royally fucked if the MMO C Dragonflight leak is not the real one, anything else would be a major disappointment in comparison.

I hope for their sake that they have something real bonkers for their expansion reveal.

You mean that wishlist larp? Are people still talking about that? There are hundreds of that form of "leaks" each leak season and they are literally never legit.
He got the name right, that's all. Please move on.

[SniperCT]

I hope they arrange things a bit so that shadowlands gets rolled into the earlier leveling content. Either keep 60 as the cap and nerf everyone back to 50, or if they raise the cap to 70 make it so 1-60 can be any expansion.

Anything so I don't have to do SL on my alts lol

[Izalla]

Gifdwarf has been around since the WoD times under many different names...

but he always kept the same dwarf profile pic!

I remember those times! I've been here in each of these threads since then as well, I just don't post all that much (excluding lately) and am not memorable.

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I've seen patches in other MMOs with more meaningful content than this.

If you look at his post history he outright said he came up with the blandest most boring things he could think of so it would be really vague and generic and thus more believable.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

I remember those times! I've been here in each of these threads since then as well, I just don't post all that much (excluding lately) and am not memorable.

I think you joined around the same time I did, early 2014. I definitely remember seeing you too!

I can say with pride that I hold the honor of being the very last post on the WoD hype thread. At least on my old account. /flex

[Izalla]

I was thinking something about a way of connecting Lordaeron and the dragons. Do you guys remember how the plague from the Wrathgate was cleaned? dragon fire from the red dragons, so...what if we ask Alextrazsa to cleanse Lordaeron and something happens there that connects the whole thing?

Hey guys you remember how you wanted a beautiful autumn forest filled with sun-warmed cats? Welcome to New Tirisfal!

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I think you joined around the same time I did, early 2014. I definitely remember seeing you too!

I can say with pride that I hold the honor of being the very last post on the WoD hype thread. At least on my old account. /flex

Yeah I stopped visiting the official forums in favour of MMOC sometime during Mists and I think I really only started coming here at all when Mists of Pandaria's name was leaked but I was a lurker for a while before actually making an account.

Haha something to be proud of indeed =P

[deviantcultist]

Au'Ra from FFXIV.

I wish there was a race like that in WoW, to begin with. Personally, I prefer the anthropomorphic races in FFXIV as opposed to the beast-like races in WoW.

[Three Faced Goddess]

Now that I've caught up with this thread after a few hours, I'll put in my totally unasked for two cents.

I do not think/am pretty sure that the Dragonflight text leak is fake for reasons others have already stated. My main sources of contention are as follows:

The concept of micro-classes isn't an awful idea at all, but it's heavily dependent on implementation and design. The choices between which class concepts meet the criteria of micro-class as opposed to those who are reduced to class skins is odd. No offense to the concept of bards and chronomancers or those that like them, but they're not as popularly requested as necromancers and dark rangers who could easily be a fourth spec or micro-class. That isn't to say that these couldn't/shouldn't be micro-classes either, because both could just as easily be a forth spec/mini-class. It would make more sense to make all the class concepts mentioned in the leak to mini-classes if that's the best option going forward from now on.

My next issue is specific to Minstrel which seems to be a healing only mc with a weapon unique to it and only it. Why would Blizzard design a mc around weapon that only one class with one spec could use in the entire game? While it is true that glaives are only useable by DH, they have two specs as opposed to the Minstrel's one. A healing only class while not impossible to level would be pain in the ass to do so.

Tinkers are easily able to fill out three specs as are Dragonsworn. I could see Dark Ranger pulling off two, maybe three with a stealthy ranged bow wielding shadow spec and a healing spec based on banshee abilities. Definitely not impossible to separate from hunters.

With the recent datamining I am more inclined to think that the Dark Rangers will fall under a possibly neutral Darkfallen allied race. I am by no means against getting a class skin for Dark Rangers, but I feel it'd be extremely reductive and unappealing to the fantasy I and others have. I could see us getting a Darkfallen race with the spooky racials and then getting the class skin to perfect it. I'd hope that humans, forsaken, nelves, and belves would all be able to use the skin.

PS: The textures claimed to be part of the new Alex look seem to have a phoenix emblem and are more likely unrelated.

[Villager720]

Note I said any form!

Dragonkin exist. Your dragon form can be something like this:



They could transform between a Dragonkin form and a humanoid form based off the current playable race but with draconian appearances. Horns, scales, tails: think Au'Ra from FFXIV.

Fair enough - though picking a faction for dragon(kin)s would be somewhat lore comical.

I think my biggest reservation for that form is …boy howdy worgen and tauren helmets are going to look like the statue of David in comparison to the future mutilations done by drakonoid helms.