1. #36181
    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    A cinematic without a single action scene would be really lame. Other cinematics have also established the antagonist pretty clearly, whereas this tells us pretty much nothing about who we're going to be dealing with.
    Having it be an inversion of Cataclysm is neat.

    But too detailed and remembers too much. Some details like the "familiar Warcraft theme" amuse me - Legends of Azeroth? Call to Arms? Seasons of War? Warcraft doesn't have one specific theme! These are just statements designed to sound cool.

    They're not doing a Tyrande render for a few seconds long shot.

  2. #36182
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    "I only saw it once".

    Recalls its exact duration and every line that was said.

    I mean, it sounds basic enough to be real, but also extremely forgettable.



    As far as I understand, Murozond was always meant to happen, even in the best of outcomes. We saw him die in End Time, but that may also be him at his weakest, so we could see him being "born" and have to defeat him in his prime as a raid boss.
    Are you trying to say you don't have a timer on hand for every event you witness so you can figure out to the second how long they are?

    I guess you could stretch and say the leaker saw the video file with the duration on it, but that is a stretch when I still struggle to see how he could remember such a specific detail.
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  3. #36183
    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    Doesn't necessarily need to have a battle. WOTLK was all narration and we just saw the Lich King doing Lich King stuff.
    We also saw Sindragosa breaking the ice. Besides, it was Arthas, Blizzard knew they didn't have to go too hard with him to get people hyped. Alexstrasza and Tyrande are not that popular.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Are you trying to say you don't have a timer on hand for every event you witness so you can figure out to the second how long they are?

    I guess you could stretch and say the leaker saw the video file with the duration on it, but that is a stretch when I still struggle to see how he could remember such a specific detail.
    Maybe it's someone in charge of making sure the upload to YouTube went well, and in the report had to write the exact duration once uploaded. But that's me making stuff up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post


    A cinematic without a single action scene would be really lame. Other cinematics have also established the antagonist pretty clearly, whereas this tells us pretty much nothing about who we're going to be dealing with.
    Tbh I would loooove that cinematic. Yes, the BfA one was prolly the best cinematic they ever did (which is sad as BFA is pretty much the worst expansion), and Shadowlands was cool but the Sylvanas vs. Bolvar cinematic did nothing to show anything from the Shadowlands, it was just a story set up. This leak would be a great overview for the new Expansion and set the tone for it quite well. Also I had tears in my eyes reading it so that's defo Blizzard style of writing lol.

  5. #36185
    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    Doesn't necessarily need to have a battle. WOTLK was all narration and we just saw the Lich King doing Lich King stuff and is still one of the best cinematics they've done yet.
    The WotLK cinematic still had action though, just not combat. The whole dragon resurrection took the place of what would normally be an action scene.
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  6. #36186
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    We also saw Sindragosa breaking the ice. Besides, it was Arthas, Blizzard knew they didn't have to go too hard with him to get people hyped. Alexstrasza and Tyrande are not that popular
    Too bad they are killing and shelving all the interesting/main characters and leaving soy boys like Thrall and Baine around who are honestly disgusting to watch.

  7. #36187
    Quote Originally Posted by Feali View Post
    There's no way Tyrande is shown crying after what we've seen in the Sylvanas' Judgement cinematic.
    She hasn't had a chance to really mourn her people. She was the nightwarrior and unable to feel anything besides rage and hate for a long time. Now having made sure the souls get saved and sylvanas is punished it seems fitting she returns as tyrande to teldrassil and mourn what was lost.

    But i still don't think its real. I honestly doubt they would give tyrande a spot in a cgi trailer.

  8. #36188
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Tbh I would loooove that cinematic. Yes, the BfA one was prolly the best cinematic they ever did (which is sad as BFA is pretty much the worst expansion), and Shadowlands was cool but the Sylvanas vs. Bolvar cinematic did nothing to show anything from the Shadowlands, it was just a story set up. This leak would be a great overview for the new Expansion and set the tone for it quite well. Also I had tears in my eyes reading it so that's defo Blizzard style of writing lol.
    I thought the SL was brilliant actually. Not necessarily as great in writing. But the way it used light and colors just worked so well, from how you see Sylvanas arrive at the throne at dawn with that army of ghouls, the light hitting Bolvar just right on his throne, and in general how it really had a distinct colour scheme throughout.
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  9. #36189
    Quote Originally Posted by Foolicious View Post
    She hasn't had a chance to really mourn her people.
    She can go visit them. In fact she already has. Good to know the existential boondocks of the Shadowlands doesn't prevent Tyrande from having a pity party.

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    I mean, think folks are ignoring what the biggest turn-off - personally speaking - of that cinematic is: that the new zones would be up in the sky.

    As far as I'm concerned that would feel as disconnected as SL's zones.

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    If the leak is anything to go by, it's basically what everyone and their mother guessed it would be.

    Redo of cataclysm but happy flappy with a dash of Pandaria showcase.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    I thought the SL was brilliant actually. Not necessarily as great in writing. But the way it used light and colors just worked so well, from how you see Sylvanas arrive at the throne at dawn with that army of ghouls, the light hitting Bolvar just right on his throne, and in general how it really had a distinct colour scheme throughout.
    SL cinematic was insanely hype up to the point where Bolvar stood up and looked like a badass. After that it goes downhill FAST when Sylvanas starts godmoting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deviantcultist View Post
    The fact that they are interrupting the cosmic arc in order to introduce Dragons does show that Blizz bends to the community's whims to some extent. Unless the Dragons become part of the cosmic lore which is another new perspective altogether.
    The dragons have always been a part of the cosmic lore... dating back to their literal inception. Who made them aspects?

    Also, there is wayyy likely more cosmic stuff.. Dragons will only be part of the expansion. Similar to how BFA was about warring factions.... JK old gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    I thought the SL was brilliant actually. Not necessarily as great in writing. But the way it used light and colors just worked so well, from how you see Sylvanas arrive at the throne at dawn with that army of ghouls, the light hitting Bolvar just right on his throne, and in general how it really had a distinct colour scheme throughout.
    I liked it too but it didn't show anything about the Shadowlands. In that regard the 2nd HD cinematic we got that actually showed us the Winter Queen, Kyrestia, the Sire and the Jailer was far better in terms of setting the tone for the Expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    I thought the SL was brilliant actually. Not necessarily as great in writing. But the way it used light and colors just worked so well, from how you see Sylvanas arrive at the throne at dawn with that army of ghouls, the light hitting Bolvar just right on his throne, and in general how it really had a distinct colour scheme throughout.
    Oh, nobody can say a word against the craftsmanship of any of their cinematics, they're among the best of the industry.

    But they waste that talent with subpar writing and bad choices.

  16. #36196
    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    SL cinematic was insanely hype up to the point where Bolvar stood up and looked like a badass. After that it goes downhill FAST when Sylvanas starts godmoting.
    Personally I could have down without the Sylvanas narration as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post


    A cinematic without a single action scene would be really lame. Other cinematics have also established the antagonist pretty clearly, whereas this tells us pretty much nothing about who we're going to be dealing with.
    Well the Wrath trailer had no fighting in it either. What irks me is the start. Shots of Lordaeron with sad piano music and female voice over? That's exactly the same as the BfA cinematic. Granted that was the second best one, but still.

    Also the whole stuff feels random. Yes, the worlds is healing. Here is the Dragon Isles by the way.

    What I DO like is the idea to enlist the Dragonflights to heal the world after all the beating it took. We know their blessing is vital for the new World Tree, but others could benefit from it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Also the whole stuff feels random. Yes, the worlds is healing. Here is the Dragon Isles by the way.
    Fits in perfectly with the written leak then. It's also a random mash-up of shit that makes no sense.

    Not saying either is real but it's kind of funny how both feel kind of disjointed.

  19. #36199
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold21 View Post
    I mean, think folks are ignoring what the biggest turn-off - personally speaking - of that cinematic is: that the new zones would be up in the sky.

    As far as I'm concerned that would feel as disconnected as SL's zones.
    I still think it's going to be an updated version of the first 3 continents. The Dragon Isles might exist but they'll be small, like they were in the vanilla beta: The Dragonflight already have their own homes & they're in the Highlands (Ruby) Tanaris (Bronze) Blackrock (Black) Forests (Emerald) and Northrend (Blue)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold21 View Post
    I mean, think folks are ignoring what the biggest turn-off - personally speaking - of that cinematic is: that the new zones would be up in the sky.

    As far as I'm concerned that would feel as disconnected as SL's zones.
    What??! Floating isles sound amazing.

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