Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Raetary]

So any new revelations on why we suddenly care about Dragons or are we still adrift in "here be dragons?"

Did you miss the whole expansion name, logo and promo art leak?

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Ehm, how much did you miss? What was the last thing you still knew?

Dragonsongflight is the name, there was a logo/key art leak that I'm still torn on, apparently someone "leaked" the "cinematic" but it's probably bogus, micro-class leak but that's guaranteed fake unless they're taking all "endgame systems" and making them account-wide.

Honestly I'm just waiting for leaks to catch up to Dragonflight enough that people start throwing in why we should care. Because we all know the Aspects aren't turning evil so why are we going to the Dragon Isles if not to kill them?

[Izalla]

Funny thing is while you say the name is highly predictable, there was no other leak with this name.

While you are technically correct that no one else made a leak with this name, someone else did guess that name in an expansion title guessing thread back in January. It is entirely possible the person who wrote the leak read that thread and picked the name they thought was most likely or that they liked the best. Or they just came up with it on their own the same way the other poster guessed it.

Sorry if this has been replied to already, I'm quite far behind on the thread right now.

[draugril]

I think they are jsut going to go for the obvious option.

I want them to go for a vague, nebulous "rebirth"-type expansion without a central threat, and I think dragons would be a good overall theme to loosely tie it all together. But I can't see the current team going for that. They need that Important Story to build everything else around with Big Twists and the like. I fully expect a narrative somersault to tie in the resolution of Shadowlands in with Dragonflight.

[Sondrelk]

Dragonsongflight is the name, there was a logo/key art leak that I'm still torn on, apparently someone "leaked" the "cinematic" but it's probably bogus, micro-class leak but that's guaranteed fake unless they're taking all "endgame systems" and making them account-wide.

Honestly I'm just waiting for leaks to catch up to Dragonflight enough that people start throwing in why we should care. Because we all know the Aspects aren't turning evil so why are we going to the Dragon Isles if not to kill them?

Probably to learn the origins of dragons and why they are so important.
Also most likely to defeat Murozond and the Infinite Dragonflight.

[Ersula]

Sorry, no. Your crusade against nelves was always an attempt to excuse Teldrassil. It's hilarious to see how you shit on them just to say "they had it coming". And watch again cinematics. Sylvi herself clearly states that she did everything with her free will and what she did was abhorrent. GL with any further mental gymnastics and reality denial when your BFF clearly contradicts what you have been peddling here since BfA.

The sheer amount of "So the jailer was a good guy?" posts over the past few weeks says something different. Sorry that Sylvanas got negged out of her agency by bad writing.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Probably to learn the origins of dragons and why they are so important.
Also most likely to defeat Murozond and the Infinite Dragonflight.

Maybe it's the years of speculation but Murozond and the Infinite feels... hollow to me.

I always assumed if we delt with them again it'd be through an Ancient Kalimdor expansion. Or, y'know, anything time-themed at all.

Could see them being involved but I don't think they're our next Jailer/Sylvanas/N'Zoth/Sargeras/Gul'dan/Garrosh...

Still, it is better than a lot of the "It's a world revamp and dragons are there because we needed a new location" leaks.

[Wangming]

Dragonsongflight is the name, there was a logo/key art leak that I'm still torn on, apparently someone "leaked" the "cinematic" but it's probably bogus, micro-class leak but that's guaranteed fake unless they're taking all "endgame systems" and making them account-wide.

Honestly I'm just waiting for leaks to catch up to Dragonflight enough that people start throwing in why we should care. Because we all know the Aspects aren't turning evil so why are we going to the Dragon Isles if not to kill them?

Oh so why do we care IN UNIVERSE? I dunno. I'm not the right person to answer that. As I explained in my rant a few hundread pages back, I find dragons dull. Too easy, too predictable, not enough drama. I doubt I will care for them even while standing in the middle of their ancestral home.

While you are technically correct that no one else made a leak with this name, someone else did guess that name in an expansion title guessing thread back in January. It is entirely possible the person who wrote the leak read that thread and picked the name they thought was most likely or that they liked the best. Or they just came up with it on their own the same way the other poster guessed it.

Sorry if this has been replied to already, I'm quite far behind on the thread right now.

Oooh I didn't know that. You are the first to mention it. And don't worry. Your comments are always appreciated.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I'll never understand the hatred for Valsharah. Both Tyrande and Malfurion are consistently strong there. Tyrande chooses her goddess over her husband. Xavius mocks them both because he hates them. Not to mention it's one of the few storylines in this game that FEELS fast because the stakes are raised with every beat.

Agreed. I think some people are put off because they don't realize that Malfurion's melodramatic dialogue is Xavius being sarcastic, too, which is a shame because it's rather blatant to me.

[Sondrelk]

I want them to go for a vague, nebulous "rebirth"-type expansion without a central threat, and I think dragons would be a good overall theme to loosely tie it all together. But I can't see the current team going for that. They need that Important Story to build everything else around with Big Twists and the like. I fully expect a narrative somersault to tie in the resolution of Shadowlands in with Dragonflight.

For my money, I just want an expansion that mostly ditches the big storylines and instead just has each patch focus on a singluar localized threat. Maybe with some vague connecting theme at the end to cap it all off.
Infinite Dragonflight shenanigans around Azeroth instigating conflict would be good, and it would be a good way to tie everything into dragons without needing a strong connection between each individual event beyond having a little nudge from the Infinite Dragonflight.

[Wangming]

Agreed. I think some people are put off because they don't realize that Malfurion's melodramatic dialogue is Xavius being sarcastic, too, which is a shame because it's rather blatant to me.

It's like the fake sounding Tidus laugh in Final Fantasy X. Poor guy can't live it down even though the entire scene it was cut from shows that the laugh was forced.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I think the VA probably chose to make it sound that way. Xavius was meant to be mocking Tyrande. I mean by the lore, he LOATHES her and Malfurion.

Quite frankly, I do think the campy and over-the-top portrayal of Xavius is a nice break from usual WoW villains. I think having a sardonic, arrogant villain like Nefarian was a good choice.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

You know as much as it'll re-open yesterday's can of worms, the idea of a third party trying to do some shit like reawaken Chromatus, or revive Galakrond, or just usurp the Dragonflights in general is a really interesting idea to me.

Plus since we don't know of any Cosmic Forces interested in the dragons it means they can make it a more grounded villain/group.

[Ersula]

Everyone's assuming the Purple dragon head is Chromatus, but does anyone think the void-touched dragons would try to form their own flight? Unionize the errant dragons.

[Sondrelk]

Agreed. I think some people are put off because they don't realize that Malfurion's melodramatic dialogue is Xavius being sarcastic, too, which is a shame because it's rather blatant to me.

On that front I think the problem isn't that Malfurion is being melodramatic, but Tyrande is too.

[Sondrelk]

It's like the fake sounding Tidus laugh in Final Fantasy X. Poor guy can't live it down even though the entire scene it was cut from shows that the laugh was forced.

The Tidus laugh isn't just misunderstood because it's deliberately awakeard though, it's also suffering from the VAs not being quite that comfortable with the character, which coupled with the stilted animations makes it doubly awkward.

[Vakir]

Night elves deserve it. They've lived for 10,000 years? Getting tortured in the maw is just paying their life tax, mama. Abominations, all of them.

Yep, no bad faith here at all.

And everyone who doesn't like this one thing is a basement dweller. How are you still here?

The Tidus laugh isn't just misunderstood because it's deliberately awakeard though, it's also suffering from the VAs not being quite that comfortable with the character, which coupled with the stilted animations makes it doubly awkward.

Get your logic and context out of here. It's perfectly fine to judge everything off the lazy gaming rhetoric equivalent of Cinema Sins.

"A character being a construct of a dreaming collective mourning their dead civilization means it's all a dream! I don't need to have played something for my hot take!"

[Makabreska]

The voice acting in that zone for Tyrande and Malfurion alone made me go from them being top tier to making me wish Blizzard would just kill them off or memoryhole both of them.

Amazing how fast trash voice acting can assassinate a character for a person.

Ye, it was horrible. But wasn't that Xavius faking Malfs voice, as he did with his body?

[Fahrad Wagner]

Ye, it was horrible. But wasn't that Xavius faking Malfs voice, as he did with his body?

It was Xavius faking Malfurion, but people don't read quests...

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Everyone's assuming the Purple dragon head is Chromatus, but does anyone think the void-touched dragons would try to form their own flight? Unionize the errant dragons.

Maybe but I've had enough tentacles after BFA for one decade.