Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Izalla]

nah not moving
getting ass blasted by FLAMING ZOMBIE DRAGONS!!!!!!

Crendor finally made another prediction

Every time someone says anything about undead dragons I just hear him screaming "ZOMBIE DRAGONS!" in the back of my head.

[Revamp Man]

Every time someone says anything about undead dragons I just hear him screaming "ZOMBIE DRAGONS!" in the back of my head.

i mean all of his suggestions for DMF have been put in now lol

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Hi, can someone kindly summarize the last 50 pages? is there any new info? thank you!

There was a 4chan thing claiming the "Microclasses" in the Dragonflight leak were Minstrel, Dragon Knight, Tinker, and a fourth one I really didn't care about. People debated on that and basically came down on the same lines as the overall Dragonflight leak.

And beyond that mostly just discussions of what the plot'll be, tier sets, and account-wide stuff.

[KainneAbsolute]

There was a 4chan thing claiming the "Microclasses" in the Dragonflight leak were Minstrel, Dragon Knight, Tinker, and a fourth one I really didn't care about. People debated on that and basically came down on the same lines as the overall Dragonflight leak.

And beyond that mostly just discussions of what the plot'll be, tier sets, and account-wide stuff.

Thank you!

[shoc]

Thoughts on the main villains of Dragonflight? I think it will be the Twilight Dragonflight, there was a ton of lore in BFA about them, re-emerging from Grim Batol, and there even being a clutch of Twilight Dragon eggs in N'zoths final boss area. If you recall, Xal'atath, is originally acquired in Grim Batol, I don't think that is entirely a coincidence. Xal'atath + the Twilight Dragons could be a deadly combination. It combines the threat into both a Dragon threat and a Void threat, I think it could be it.

Void + Dragons also gives us the best version of Galakrond.

[enak101]

Really love this delusional pick and choose shit people are doing with leaks. You either believe the leak as is or don't. This bizarre "well the parts I don't like they were probably confused on. My inane idea was probably what he meant!" Not singling you out for this, I've seen half a dozen posters doing the same shit.

To be fair, the original leak doesn't actually elaborate exactly on the implementation of the 'micro classes' system, how they are unlocked, if they are literally classes we pick in the creator (the term micro classes makes me think they are different in some way obviously) or if they are branching off of multiple other classes etc.

I don't see why there has been a huge debate around "they won't do it because more tier sets" when the original leak never specified in enough detail for us to assume they would actually require their own tier sets or not.

[huth]

Thoughts on the main villains of Dragonflight? I think it will be the Twilight Dragonflight, there was a ton of lore in BFA about them, re-emerging from Grim Batol, and there even being a clutch of Twilight Dragon eggs in N'zoths final boss area. If you recall, Xal'atath, is originally acquired in Grim Batol, I don't think that is entirely a coincidence. Xal'atath + the Twilight Dragons could be a deadly combination. It combines the threat into both a Dragon threat and a Void threat, I think it could be it.

Void + Dragons also gives us the best version of Galakrond.

[IMG]

Eh, not sold on N'krond. Looks kinda stupid imo.

[zeir]

Knowing blizzard we will only get a bunch of disconnected floating islands full of fairie dragons with pg-13 high pitched voices. A partial world revamp and multiple classes sounds too good to be true. Then again we got legion after wod.

[Zankai27]

Where does this idea come from except that leak?

Uh, yes? The discussion was ABOUT tier sets re: the supposed classes. I’m providing a reason it could work very well given a shift in the way progression works in a world with no leveling.

I’m not sure what part of that wasn’t clear.

[therumblings]

If they added 4 new classes but didn't give them tier sets, that would suck immensely. I can at least understand not giving them order halls, but no tier sets? Right after they reintroduced them?

[Syegfryed]

I will die on the hill that the leak saying microclasses is bullshit, i know current blizzard like to crap all over the game with systems and all, but this is beyond stupid and rly doesn't work in how the game is designed.

[ghernandess]

The Dalaran being updated was specifically the one in Northrend which can, again, mean that it has some application in the pre-event, perhaps related to Galakrond, not necessarily that it's a full-time hub.

Indeed, maybe some bronze dragonflight stuff, like caverns of time event or scenario related to old Dal?

[Izalla]

Uh, yes? The discussion was ABOUT tier sets re: the supposed classes. I’m providing a reason it could work very well given a shift in the way progression works in a world with no leveling.

I’m not sure what part of that wasn’t clear.

Sorry I thought you meant in a general sense not specific to that leak. I still don't agree though because like I said, "other armour" is something they are less likely to be burned out on because they have more freedom to play around with ideas. They specifically called out being limited to class specific designs and having to come up with new set bonuses each time as reasons to stop making them. Cutting out the sets they clearly preferred to make to give them more time to do more of the sets they were burned out on making does not seem like a good idea nor something they would actually bring upon themselves.

[KayRule]

I will die on the hill that the leak saying microclasses is bullshit, i know current blizzard like to crap all over the game with systems and all, but this is beyond stupid and rly doesn't work in how the game is designed.

I like how consistently this userbase takes the things that could fix the horrible design flaws the game has been suffering for decades and act like it's the worst thing that could happen to the game.

[Syegfryed]

I like how consistently this userbase takes the things that could fix the horrible design flaws the game has been suffering for decades and act like it's the worst thing that could happen to the game.

You think microclasses will "fix the horrible design flaws the game has been suffering for decades"

all right

[Izalla]

To be fair, the original leak doesn't actually elaborate exactly on the implementation of the 'micro classes' system, how they are unlocked, if they are literally classes we pick in the creator (the term micro classes makes me think they are different in some way obviously) or if they are branching off of multiple other classes etc.

I don't see why there has been a huge debate around "they won't do it because more tier sets" when the original leak never specified in enough detail for us to assume they would actually require their own tier sets or not.

The tier set argument is just one facet of the larger argument. And no one is going to be happy with their class not getting to have a tier set while all the "real" classes get them. Can you imagine doing a raid where all you get are the random knock off look alike pieces thrown together from various other class sets? Wait that wouldn't happen, because you aren't in the raid, because why the hell would anyone bring the gimped class that won't even get set bonuses and cannot compete against the properly tiered classes?

[AOL Instant Messenger]

As I said in another thread;

It's impossible it's not real at this point. This predates 9.2 coming out. Since then, 9.2.5 has come onto the PTR. The things it got right so far are;

The name World of Warcraft: Dragonflight
Dalaran update.
Lordaeron focus.
New quests in the Blood Elf lands have the zone in which the quest takes place called Quel'thalas, not Eversong Forest or the Ghostlands but both as one zone merged.
Dark Ranger stuff.

It's pure copium at this point to say it's fake.
Also it's funny how people are torn saying it's either far too much content (even though this is WAY LESS than TBC gave us) or far too little content, too mundane for Blizzard or too out there. No one can decide, they just know they don't like it.

You're being incredibly disingenuous and we all know you're going to pretend to have believed it after it's revealed like every other time (MoP trademark, WoD content leak, etc).

I've given some of my opinions on this expansion before, and there's a lot of things that I think ought to somewhat invalidate the leak entirely. It gets some things correct, but a Lordaeron/Quel'Thalas revamp is something a lot of people expected for a long while, including myself. The merging of Quel'Thalas and Lordaeron zones seems predictable since Blizzard does fewer, larger zones lately anyway. Dark Rangers have been on the table for years as fanservice and "Dragonflight" isn't hard to guess since it's a single hyphenated compound word connected to a very prominent idea in the lore.

[Lahis]

They certainly can be, Blizz retcons shit for breakfast, it would just be very dumb to choose to do that.

Dragons dont need to all powerful like Titans/Eternal Ones/First Ones/Second Ones/First Twos/Etc ad nauseum. They can just be pretty powerful aspects of the earth and it's even better.

However it wouldn't be "We don't have the full picture" it would be 100% retcon if they decide to turn them into being that level. We have receipts for their power level and place in the grand scheme of thing.

Dragons speak the language of life apparently so they can easily say the dragons arr more important than we thought.

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Sorry, not to distract from the awesome speculation and excitement for the new expansion, but does anyone think we'll see Zandalari, Kultiran, dark iron, maghar customization coming like we got for lightforged, highmountain, nightborne? I'd assume it'd be in the 9.2.5 patch no?

No more customization coming. Allied Races weren't supposed to get any in the first place.

[uikolertekopoku]

I am sure we wil see many dragon related retcons

[Lahis]

Don’t see how; it offers variety and hype when they need it. What is it lacking? Flexibility? That could be baked into the singular spec design. Design philosophies change over time anyway.

You can't make a 5 man party with two tanks or healers. That's why every class needs to have atleast two specs for two roles.