Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[draugril]

Actually the opposite
Twisting nether is the faster one so it was possibly tens of thousands of years

Do we have confirmation that the time disparity only works in one direction?

Regardless, even if it's only relatively faster, it would still be great if Brox was stuck cleaving demons for potentially hundreds of thousands of years, given how time dilated with Turalyon and Alleria. Never finding that warrior's death until we give him the opportunity to go round two with Sargeras or an Avator or Argus or whatever. He's the apotheosis of Orc culture - moreso than Thrall or Garrosh or Durotan or whoever else. Solid character, even as much as Knaak grated on me.

[Revamp Man]

And given it is the Northrend version, more likely to be involved in some pre-expansion event than to have it move or something.

Like he says it could be nothing

I think it would be prepatch event where either we have a flashback or it gets destroyed

In b4 we get back to Azeroth and discover we have to travel back in time to the time of galakrond to help the aspects because we need them at full power and the infinite is created when we succeed

[Syegfryed]

https://twitter.com/craig_amai/statu...86887876120577

It was a contender, but they ultimately decided that it was too nature-themed for Warriors and gave us a generic sword instead. Wrong call, IMO.

"nature theme isn't for warriors, lets make a shit ass sword with void theme, that will totally fits warriors" -Blizzard

Its funny how they focusing on "class fantasy" is when they made those shit statements/changes.

[Nymrohd]

Its more like we if we went to time travel, Thura would not lost her axe, it woudl exist two in this world.



Gorehowl isn't any magical, people can already have it, so isn't unique, and it would be awful to have it in alliance hands, just like it is with doomhammer, imagine the hammer killed hundreds of draeneis and a draenei using, comedy gold.

Gorehowl contains the hearts of six gronn. That makes it magical enough. Also you can have a troll warrior with Strom'kar . . .

[Revamp Man]

Do we have confirmation that the time disparity only works in one direction?

Regardless, even if it's only relatively faster, it would still be great if Brox was stuck cleaving demons for potentially hundreds of thousands of years, given how time dilated with Turalyon and Alleria. Never finding that warrior's death until we give him the opportunity to go round two with Sargeras or an Avator or Argus or whatever. He's the apotheosis of Orc culture - moreso than Thrall or Garrosh or Durotan or whoever else. Solid character, even as much as Knaak grated on me.

We have nothing suggesting it is distorted
As far as what has been described 1,000 years passed in the time T&V were gone and Brox was gone long long long ago

I think that an Easter egg would have been perfect for him

[Syegfryed]

Gorehowl contains the hearts of six gronn. That makes it magical enough.

gronns aren't magical creatures though, it prob only makes the steel harder.

Also you can have a troll warrior with Strom'kar . . .

thats why some weapons were just bad picks, and legion lore was a mess, like making Maghata your follower in the shaman class hall when most horde people would kill her instead.

[Nymrohd]

Absolutely. Like, this is one slight pickle with the Order Halls and the Artiface weapons. Some people get lucky and get some very lore heavy shit like: Become the leader of the Silver Hand and wield the fucking Ashbringer. For others its just: "Come join this team we just made up and get this weapon we just made up." It was very uneven. It worked for some, like Knaifu, the new best weapon in game, but less so for others. And while I understand that 12 orders and 36 weapons are impossible to make super memorable and established, it could have been more balanced.

Honestly, I think they needed more time. Visually a lot of them were great. And many of the weapons that had absolutely no lore before Legion got amazing lore. Maw of the Damned, Ulthaless, Aldrachi Warblades, G'hanir, T'uure, obviously Xal'atath, Fist of Ra'den and Skull of Man'ari; any of them got lore that puts it now on par with something like the Ashbringer. And yeah, many others are just boring. Many of the order halls also felt like after thoughts? Monks, priests and hunters should have gotten a full redesign (hall AND campaign). Paladin probably needed a hall that made sense (why is it Underground???). And Warrior while not bad had nothing to do with warriors and should just have been a max level storyline we did for Odyn in 7.1

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groms aren't magic creatures though, it prob only makes the steel harder.

Eh, Gronn manipulate earth and are just one step below the Magnaron. But yeah, there are MANY options for warrior weapons. And most importantly, they should have made a greater effort to have diversity in the sources of the weapons. Far too many come from human lore. I think it probably had to do with them trying to minimize the number of artifact weapon scenarios required.

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We have nothing suggesting it is distorted
As far as what has been described 1,000 years passed in the time T&V were gone and Brox was gone long long long ago

I think that an Easter egg would have been perfect for him

Argus lies between the Nether and the Great Dark Beyond. So it should share the Nether's timeless quality. Which would mean that Brox, if he survived that attack would not have aged. You could have had the Krokul save him.
Heck you could have had the Army of the Light save him. Army of the Light desperately needed more diversity; adding an orc or two would have worked. Heck you could have had Ethereals, Arakkoa, perhaps some repurposed Botani model . . . it should have been diverse.

[Wangming]

Honestly, I think they needed more time. Visually a lot of them were great. And many of the weapons that had absolutely no lore before Legion got amazing lore. Maw of the Damned, Ulthaless, Aldrachi Warblades, G'hanir, T'uure, obviously Xal'atath, Fist of Ra'den and Skull of Man'ari; any of them got lore that puts it now on par with something like the Ashbringer. And yeah, many others are just boring. Many of the order halls also felt like after thoughts? Monks, priests and hunters should have gotten a full redesign (hall AND campaign). Paladin probably needed a hall that made sense (why is it Underground???). And Warrior while not bad had nothing to do with warriors and should just have been a max level storyline we did for Odyn in 7.1

Agreed. It is clear that WoD also hurt Legion as they had to scrap the expansion quickly which gave them less time to make all that they wanted to. An expansion the size of Legion needs a lot of time and forward thinking. Question is, what does that tell us of SL and Dragonflight?

[Revamp Man]

So after seeing towellie respond to the art leak…who is saying the pics are from a printing area??

Tinfoil theory: he denied it so hard because it is true so he needed to take the most insane premise from chat and use it to try and debunk it

https://t.co/igr8EaY1eZ

Definitely agree it’s deliberately being done so often

[Fahrad Wagner]

*coming back into the thread after days fighting for r/place*

Have I missed anything?

[Hitei]

So after seeing towellie respond to the art leak…who is saying the pics are from a printing area??

Tinfoil theory: he denied it so hard because it is true so he needed to take the most insane premise from chat and use it to try and debunk it

https://t.co/igr8EaY1eZ

Definitely agree it’s deliberately being done so often

>17 minute untimestamped video
If you're going to do this shit, at least summarize whatever dumb 10 second point is buried in there.

*coming back into the thread after days fighting for r/place*

Have I missed anything?

Did you miss the entire confirmed Dragonflight thing?
If so, the warcraft/blizzard site was found to have preorder data for a "Dragonflight" and an image with a hypothetical logo and key art corresponding to the same title showed up on twitter about the same time. People are linking it to a leak thread from a couple months ago with the same name, though there's not much to indicate that.

[Revamp Man]

*coming back into the thread after days fighting for r/place*

Have I missed anything?

Speculation about dal
Brox love
Talk about the high points of past expansions

[Dragons Are Bad Mkay]

My guess of how the map will look given the leak and the datamined info that supports it;

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[Fahrad Wagner]

My guess of how the map will look given the leak and the datamined info that supports it;

i.imgur . com oLGdsEL.png

Fixed that for you buddy I agree aside from Dalaran, which I think would go back to its crater, and Balor which is supposed to be much smaller

>17 minute untimestamped video
If you're going to do this shit, at least summarize whatever dumb 10 second point is buried in there.

Did you miss the entire confirmed Dragonflight thing?
If so, the warcraft/blizzard site was found to have preorder data for a "Dragonflight" and an image with a hypothetical logo and key art corresponding to the same title showed up on twitter about the same time. People are linking it to a leak thread from a couple months ago with the same name, though there's not much to indicate that.

Nah I saw all that!

Speculation about dal
Brox love
Talk about the high points of past expansions

Oki cool so I haven't missed much, thanks guys! ♥

[draugril]

So if that Dragonflight "leak" proves true (which I severely doubt), it will be ~9 weeks from leak to official announcement. Would that be the earliest leak we've had? Most I recall only came in the direct lead up to the announcement, less than a week beforehand. But I could be misremembering.

[Dragons Are Bad Mkay]

Fixed that for you buddy I agree aside from Dalaran, which I think would go back to its crater, and Balor which is supposed to be much smaller

Thank you!

I'd argue Balor will likely be the same size as any other zone in the expansion. Keep in mind Kul Tiras, the Broken Isles, Pandaria and Zandalar were all miraculously turned into entire continents because it fit the content they were adding. And yeah, Dalaran in Hillsbrad might make sense since they messed with Hillsbrad's skybox, just seems odd not to have Dalaran at the center like in WotLK and Legion.

[Sondrelk]

Out of curiosity, why are we assuming Lordaeron and Quel'thalas are going to be part of the next expansion, but not Blackrock Mountain?

Surely they are equally important in 9.2.5 given they are just done for a single questline.

[draugril]

Thank you!

I'd argue Balor will likely be the same size as any other zone in the expansion. Keep in mind Kul Tiras, the Broken Isles, Pandaria and Zandalar were all miraculously turned into entire continents because it fit the content they were adding. And yeah, Dalaran in Hillsbrad might make sense since they messed with Hillsbrad's skybox, just seems odd not to have Dalaran at the center like in WotLK and Legion.

The strange part is that they could have simply shown them as smaller on the map, even if larger in implementation. I think most players are smart enough to understand that the in-game world is merely a representation of the "real" Azeroth for the purposes of gameplay.

[Syegfryed]

Sheesh, i hope dragon isles is not besides easter kingdom, seems like all places are there, its becoming bloated, kalindor side of the ocean is too empty

[Chickat]

This is why an elective spec system would make more sense. If the one spec was something you chose to add to your classes' selection. A few general abilities but for the most part all abilities are locked to the spec: A Death Knight Minstrel & A Mage Minstrel would have the same rotations, but the Mage Minstrel has Time Warp & the Death Knight Minstrel has a battle rez. Etc.

Because a bard, minstrel or tinker would actually be something totally new. Just like Demon Hunter & Death Knight & Monk were very new & iconic. Dark Ranger is extremely close to hunter, especially after giving them undead taming. Necromancer is extremely similar to any of the casters, especially after giving them necrolord customization. Warden are just militant elves. etc. The game feels like it needs new Healers & Tanks, not new dps specs.

You're most likely correct, which I already explained in my post. So thanks for replying in the nastiest way possible.

There was nothing nasty about my reply.