Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Wangming]

Hello everyone! I’ve been following the thread closely and, given how positive the reception has been, I thought I’d pop in just to confirm that Dragonflight is indeed the title of the next expansion! However, I would also encourage everyone to rein back their expectations a little, especially concerning the “leak thread” that coincidentally guessed the title. We do have ambitious plans, but not in the same direction.

Hey an LARP-er who can totally confirm what was 140% confirmable but can't say anything else. Cool

[ZyntosAran]

Hello everyone! I’ve been following the thread closely and, given how positive the reception has been, I thought I’d pop in just to confirm that Dragonflight is indeed the title of the next expansion! However, I would also encourage everyone to rein back their expectations a little, especially concerning the “leak thread” that coincidentally guessed the title. We do have ambitious plans, but not in the same direction.

Kekw /10char

[Vakir]

Something I miss about WoW at launch is purposeless zones. They were fun to just explore and speculate about. They were the promise of future content, made manifest. And they made the rest of the world feel larger simply by existing - there were areas that weren't all that relevant to anything, like Winterspring, Deadwind Pass, the Blasted Lands and so on. They exist because they built the world first instead of having the needs of the gameplay determine the very geology of the world.

Agreed. It indirectly makes the world appear smaller. Everything existing for a specific purpose ends up feeling utilitarian and it turns more into a Polly Pocket playset instead of a planet/dimension.

I get why they have to, WoW is a huge fucking game with a voracious player base, it's just something we left behind.

[Arcinatoss]

what if they pull a sneaky one on us and put the dragon isles on the right of the eastern kingdom, thus confirming the other side of azeroth.

[Dioporco]

Hello everyone! I’ve been following the thread closely and, given how positive the reception has been, I thought I’d pop in just to confirm that Dragonflight is indeed the title of the next expansion! However, I would also encourage everyone to rein back their expectations a little, especially concerning the “leak thread” that coincidentally guessed the title. We do have ambitious plans, but not in the same direction.

But in a previous post you said Housing was coming and he got Housing too but you didnt say he got that too.


strange

[Nightshade711]

The dragon isles being close to the Eastern Kingdoms, Lordaeron, and/or Northrend doesn’t make sense.

With the Kalimdor book they’re probably a good bit west of Kalimdor/ Azuremyst isle. And/or on the other side of Azeroth that’s still shrouded in storms/mists.

[Vakir]

But in a previous post you said Housing was coming and he got Housing too but you didnt say he got that too.

strange

He didn't say he didn't get anything else either!

It's all horseshit larping anyway.

[Lahis]

And given it is the Northrend version, more likely to be involved in some pre-expansion event than to have it move or something.

Northrend Dalaran wouldn't make sense for any pre-expansion event. Lorewise it doesn't even exists.

[draugril]

Agreed. It indirectly makes the world appear smaller. Everything existing for a specific purpose ends up feeling utilitarian and it turns more into a Polly Pocket playset instead of a planet/dimension.

I get why they have to, WoW is a huge fucking game with a voracious player base, it's just something we left behind.

I would love to see Winterspring revisited someday. It captures a very specific aesthetic of "winter-meets-twilight" with its slight pink and purple hues that nothing else really captures, especially if you know what those early morning hours look when the sun scatters itself across a field of snow.

[Vakir]

Northrend Dalaran wouldn't make sense for any pre-expansion event. Lorewise it doesn't even exists.

Galakrond. Proximity to Wyrmrest.

"We moved it again." Ez.

Besides, textures, maps, etc. get internal changes sometimes for totally unrelated reasons.

Remember Medivh's Birthday Bash? How about the Galakrond changes pre-9.0 that didn't materialize at all in that expac? Dev Island? Some things are prototypes or passion projects.

[Nightshade711]

Northrend Dalaran wouldn't make sense for any pre-expansion event. Lorewise it doesn't even exists.

The city could easily move back to Northrend.
Hell in Legion we saw it go from Northrend to Karazhan to the Broken Isles in one questline.

[huth]

[IMG]


This should be the most "plausible" azeroth map with proper scaling

with island expedition islands @Wangming

That scale is completely off. Northrend is less than half the size. Lordaeron would be incredibly huge, especially for it's supposed type of government. Arthas would have had to travel for weeks to get places, not days. All the expedition islands, as well as Zandalar and Kul Tiras, are also excessively large.

Looks like the creator just went with what "sounds right" without actually checking how big that would really be. Like G. R. R. Martins 700 foot wall. Lordaeron is nearly the size of the US on that map. Dalaran would be over 50 miles diameter.

[draugril]

But in a previous post you said Housing was coming and he got Housing too but you didnt say he got that too.


strange

The thing with leaks is... either they're 100% false or 100% true. They're real, or they're not. Even a leak that guesses 100% correctly would still be false. It's a pet peeve of mine when people see leaks in hindsight and imply that it was "half legitimate" and the like. As if they inserted misinformation. No, they just guessed wrong along with guessing right. Guessed aren't legitimate at all, no matter how accurate they wind up being.

[Sondrelk]

Agreed. It indirectly makes the world appear smaller. Everything existing for a specific purpose ends up feeling utilitarian and it turns more into a Polly Pocket playset instead of a planet/dimension.

I get why they have to, WoW is a huge fucking game with a voracious player base, it's just something we left behind.

I think it has more to do with shifting expectations to WoW.
It used to be much more exploration focused, and things like doing raids were considered a reward for completing everything leading up to it.
Places like Deadwind pass worked because you had to run past it on the ground, which added a sense of scale to the game.

The playerbase now instead wants a much faster experience where being in any way inconvenienced and being forced to actually play the game is seen as the developers being actively malicious.

A slower more contemplative experience has essentially been made obsolete by the playstyle that WotLK pushed. That of quickly levelling mostly to make players commit to a class before going into raiding, the true WoW experience.
All the other stuff is just there to feed into raiding, as opposed to Vanilla where everything is much less focused, but in return much more varied.

[AngerFork]

Hello everyone! I’ve been following the thread closely and, given how positive the reception has been, I thought I’d pop in just to confirm that Dragonflight is indeed the title of the next expansion! However, I would also encourage everyone to rein back their expectations a little, especially concerning the “leak thread” that coincidentally guessed the title. We do have ambitious plans, but not in the same direction.

I feel like I might believe this a bit more had you ever given any sort of leak or other info that made you seem believable as a dev. As is, this strikes me more as someone cosplaying as a dev rather than actually being a dev. What can you tell us to show that you aren't just a fake & bake dev?

Also, any sort of dev I've known has always been overexcited for what they've made & surprised when it didn't hit that level, not telling people to rein their expectations back before anything is even announced. If you are an actual dev (which I don't buy atm), then that tells me you don't have a ton of confidence in the game to come.

[Nyel]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

all classes get the 4 micro classes and you can swap like a FF job.

I'd say not all classes, but all armor types.

Dragon Knight for Plate
Tinker for Mail
Minstrel for Leather
Chronomancer for Cloth

It could easily work this way. With Mage / Warlock / Priest you can unlock Chronomancer. With Shaman and Hunter you unlock Tinker etc.

[pacotaco]

It would be interesting to get a full overworld map with even expedition islands included. Sure they aren't big, but they do occupy space.

If Azeroth map was at scale, some islands already on it would be barely visible.
https://worldofmapcraft.com/

And that's how they are in-game, where scales are already warped.

[Wangming]

The thing with leaks is... either they're 100% false or 100% true. They're real, or they're not. Even a leak that guesses 100% correctly would still be false. It's a pet peeve of mine when people see leaks in hindsight and imply that it was "half legitimate" and the like. As if they inserted misinformation. No, they just guessed wrong along with guessing right. Guessed aren't legitimate at all, no matter how accurate they wind up being.

But Larper boy did say that plans are not in "that direction" That doesn't sound like some of it is right, some of it is wrong.

[Raetary]

Yeah, and they will know the stories of the variety of ethnicities races of the horde, not the enemy, lmao.

Tauren have had neutral and up to friendly relations with the nelves for ages, Trolls and belves are direct cousin races.
There will be enough stories to go around, regardless of whether they are true, false, antagonizing or inspiring.

How can they fill the blanks if they don't know? why they would know night elves myths and tales? lol

They would fill in the blanks with the information they do know.
Just like Rexxar told them about a story that he knows about.

You are acting as if the book made it out to be that those children are being indoctrinated by the evil nelf gang.
They visited a place, Rexxar knew things about that place, he told them what he knew about that place, that's all there is to it.

sure, Rexxar learn ancient night elf writing

Ah yes, because that's the only possible way Rexxar could've possibly gotten that story.
Not by exchanging information, not by conversing, but by finding old nelf texts and studying ancient darnassian!

Surely i don't have to explain how dumb that point is, do i?

Whatever, i'm done with this shit.

[draugril]

But Larper boy did say that plans are not in "that direction" That doesn't sound like some of it is right, some of it is wrong.

My assumption would be the classes? Larps McGee said we'd be getting no classes, but here we are (as a community) getting hyped for four-plus-change new classes. I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to believe.