1. #36761
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Or people saw them, knew about them and just didn't have any reason to go there. Like Kul Tiras. Everybody knew where it was. They just didn't go there.
    Didn’t the quest you get from island expeditions that first mentioned the dragon isles in game say that Wrathion was looking for them? In other words the location was unknown. Though I guess they could retcon that.

  2. #36762
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Or people saw them, knew about them and just didn't have any reason to go there. Like Kul Tiras. Everybody knew where it was. They just didn't go there.
    Kul Tiras, was a nation like Gilneas that still was doing commerce with Stormwind and other alliance cities.

    Is not a MYTH "hey did you heard about the legendary land of Kul Tiras? Isnt a Legend?" Jaina be like °what????°

  3. #36763
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    What?

    Is impossible that dragon isle where there, we literally ship from Stormwind to Northrend and nobody saw them near the coast?


    Having some Lordaeron shields update, which werent even in the live build at launch of 9.2 ndr, doesnt really tell us that are there.


    At best tells us that they revamped some Lordaeron stuff, and if we want to believe is a Lordaeron revamp which is the same stuff the leak suggested, but the leak itself said floating between Northrend and Broken Shore


    Which seems more plausible since is closer to Wyrmrest Temple
    Dragon Isles were off the coast of Tirisfal in the early version of the map. They were later removed. And with any island they could decide to move them anywhere for game play purposes but if you were going to guess, near Lordaeron would be a safest bet at this point in time.

    The shields were datamined along with Exile's Reach stuff.

    https://www.wowhead.com/news/exiles-...-318546?page=2

  4. #36764
    Quote Originally Posted by Rae888 View Post
    Didn’t the quest you get from island expeditions that first mentioned the dragon isles in game say that Wrathion was looking for them? In other words the location was unknown. Though I guess they could retcon that.
    Plus this, thanks.

  5. #36765
    Quote Originally Posted by Rae888 View Post
    Didn’t the quest you get from island expeditions that first mentioned the dragon isles in game say that Wrathion was looking for them? In other words the location was unknown. Though I guess they could retcon that.
    Unknown can also mean that the location of the islands is known, but not what they are. So Wrathion would still have to search because they aren't mapped as "Dragon Isles" but just "dangerous place, don't go" or something.

  6. #36766
    Also wait why would Balor be up there? I went to look to remind myself of Balor (as I don't even remember it) and wowpedia says its supposed to be off the coast of Stormwind.

    I know things change location from time to time, partly due to story reasons, but that's kind of a big move. And it was historically part of the Kingdom of Azeroth (aka Stormwind).

  7. #36767
    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Dragon Isles were off the coast of Tirisfal in the early version of the map. They were later removed. And with any island they could decide to move them anywhere for game play purposes but if you were going to guess, near Lordaeron would be a safest bet at this point in time.

    The shields were datamined along with Exile's Reach stuff.

    https://www.wowhead.com/news/exiles-...-318546?page=2
    1. Which map?

    2. those shields are not even in the game and exile reach is 2 years ago, at best the only dragon thing is that the Ogre Mage was trying to resurrect Undead Dragons.

  8. #36768
    Here’s the quest text:

    Hello, I was told to expect you. Kindly hand over the scale.

    We will, of course, compensate you.

    First in information. Have you heard of the Dragon Isles? Few have, and fewer have been there.

    We have not found others of the master's kin... forthcoming in information.

    Should you uncover anything further in your travels, we will be awaiting a visit, with payment in kind.

    And second, in this Azerite you are seeking. Here, a hefty sum for your troubles.

    Until we meet again.
    I guess it doesn’t exactly say the location is unknown, just that few have heard of them or been there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Who will even teach then? people don't grow up hearing tales of other people unless they themselves tell then, especially if its myths
    Children absolutely grow up hearing tales of other people if the group they are apart of consists of a variety of ethnicities and races.
    Groups like *gasp* the Horde!

    I'm sure if Billy'jin asks "What is that big white tower a bit into the forest?" some Troll, Tauren, Belf, etc. can jump in to fill the blanks.
    Especially if those storytellers are travelers like Rexxar, who are bound to know quite a few things about the places they travel around.


    Formerly known as Arafal

  10. #36770
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Unknown can also mean that the location of the islands is known, but not what they are. So Wrathion would still have to search because they aren't mapped as "Dragon Isles" but just "dangerous place, don't go" or something.
    Or maybe because are floating?

    Also he could have literally asked to : Sabellian or Ebyssian or even to the Aspects.

  11. #36771
    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    Or maybe because are floating?

    Also he could have literally asked to : Sabellian or Ebyssian or even to the Aspects.
    Flying islands would be rather noticeable, unless the area is perpetually overcast... which would itself be noticeable.

    Wrathion isn't exactly the most trusted dragon in the world, either. Blacks in general have trust issues anyway.

  12. #36772
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    If they added 4 new classes but didn't give them tier sets, that would suck immensely. I can at least understand not giving them order halls, but no tier sets? Right after they reintroduced them?
    Unless you do it like this:



    Warrior, Paladin, Death Knight get Dragon Knight 4th spec
    Hunter gets Tinker 4th spec
    Rogue and Monk get Minstrel 4th spec
    Mage and Priest get Chronomancer 4th spec

    Then...
    Hunters get Dark Ranger skin
    Shaman get Dragonsworn / Earthwarden style skin
    Demon Hunter get Warden
    Druid get Nightmare
    and Warlock get Necromancer (I assume they will do something similar to in my sig)

    You achieve these things:
    - You ADD to existing classes with new cosmetics and 4th spec options
    - You don't need to add more base classes at all and worry about maintaining them forever into the future
    - You still only have to do 12 tier sets
    - Everyone gets a bunch of flavors added to the game, to their existing characters, and sate a lot of long-time fan requests

    I hope that post is the real leak, if it isn't I'll be disappointed honestly.

  13. #36773
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Flying islands would be rather noticeable, unless the area is perpetually overcast... which would itself be noticeable.

    Wrathion isn't exactly the most trusted dragon in the world, either. Blacks in general have trust issues anyway.
    Yea flying island (between Northrend and Broken Isle) would be noticeable just like gigantic continents off the shore of lordaeron



    also with the defeat of Nefarian and Neltharion, is pretty much false to assume nobody trust black dragons, when literally we had a black dragon rappresentative at wyrmrest temple, they know about him and he was even there with Alexstraza at the Garrosh trial


    He is the one that doesnt want to get along with the Aspects, not viceversa.

  14. #36774
    Some interesting Azeroth size discussions in this old thread:

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...big-is-Azeroth

  15. #36775
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Unless you do it like this:



    Warrior, Paladin, Death Knight get Dragon Knight 4th spec
    Hunter gets Tinker 4th spec
    Rogue and Monk get Minstrel 4th spec
    Mage and Priest get Chronomancer 4th spec

    Then...
    Hunters get Dark Ranger skin
    Shaman get Dragonsworn / Earthwarden style skin
    Demon Hunter get Warden
    Druid get Nightmare
    and Warlock get Necromancer (I assume they will do something similar to in my sig)

    You achieve these things:
    - You ADD to existing classes with new cosmetics and 4th spec options
    - You don't need to add more base classes at all and worry about maintaining them forever into the future
    - You still only have to do 12 tier sets
    - Everyone gets a bunch of flavors added to the game, to their existing characters, and sate a lot of long-time fan requests

    I hope that post is the real leak, if it isn't I'll be disappointed honestly.


    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

    all classes get the 4 micro classes and you can swap like a FF job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

    all classes get the 4 micro classes and you can swap like a FF job.
    You lost me at “like FF”
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Chen isn't a Monk

  17. #36777
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Unless you do it like this:



    Warrior, Paladin, Death Knight get Dragon Knight 4th spec
    Hunter gets Tinker 4th spec
    Rogue and Monk get Minstrel 4th spec
    Mage and Priest get Chronomancer 4th spec

    Then...
    Hunters get Dark Ranger skin
    Shaman get Dragonsworn / Earthwarden style skin
    Demon Hunter get Warden
    Druid get Nightmare
    and Warlock get Necromancer (I assume they will do something similar to in my sig)

    You achieve these things:
    - You ADD to existing classes with new cosmetics and 4th spec options
    - You don't need to add more base classes at all and worry about maintaining them forever into the future
    - You still only have to do 12 tier sets
    - Everyone gets a bunch of flavors added to the game, to their existing characters, and sate a lot of long-time fan requests

    I hope that post is the real leak, if it isn't I'll be disappointed honestly.
    Giving all of these classes a 4th spec before DH gets a 3rd spec is crazy, but its on par with what they have done to DH this whole expansion so wouldn't shock me.

  18. #36778
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    You lost me at “like FF”
    Just like WoW lost subs to them with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioporco View Post
    Assuming this is 90% similar to what blizzard will deliver





    1. How the fuck alliance ship never saw that during the Undercity siege?

    2. How didnt Jaina saw it neither?

    Cause the isles aren't this big. Jesus, christ, they were on the map for years.



    See those barely noticable three specs of land above Tirisfal? That is where they itended to place the Dragon Isles back when Vanilla was developed.



    Not to be confused with the much bigger northern islands.

    According to wowpedia:

    The islands do resemble the Broken Isles from Warcraft III, however, the Broken Isles are very close to the Maelstrom while the northern islands are further away. Moreover, they may have been shown as different things on at least one very early concept map.

    In Wrath of the Lich King, these isles were removed from the overworld map, as they occupied the same area as Northrend, albeit, they are still present in the cosmic map, which also includes the northern continent. It is possible that they were simply there to help fill an empty map, but their former consistency was notable.

    As of Legion, it seems that the Broken Isles indeed match the former location of these islands. However, the northern islands and the islands that the RPG called the Broken Isles have seemingly been on the map at the same time since Warcraft III, though that island may be Balor or the Darkspear Islands instead.

    In Shadowlands, an archipelago known as the Exile's Reach appears roughly in a position where the northern islands once were.

    EDIT: Eff these moronic screenshoting rules:

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wo...20070519171221

    The three small ones are the Dragon isles
    Last edited by Wangming; 2022-04-05 at 03:27 PM.

  20. #36780
    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Cause the isles aren't this big. Jesus, christ, they were on the map for years.



    See those barely noticable three specs of land above Tirisfal? That is where they itended to place the Dragon Isles back when Vanilla was developed.



    Not to be confused with the much bigger northern islands.

    According to wowpedia:

    The islands do resemble the Broken Isles from Warcraft III, however, the Broken Isles are very close to the Maelstrom while the northern islands are further away. Moreover, they may have been shown as different things on at least one very early concept map.

    In Wrath of the Lich King, these isles were removed from the overworld map, as they occupied the same area as Northrend, albeit, they are still present in the cosmic map, which also includes the northern continent. It is possible that they were simply there to help fill an empty map, but their former consistency was notable.

    As of Legion, it seems that the Broken Isles indeed match the former location of these islands. However, the northern islands and the islands that the RPG called the Broken Isles have seemingly been on the map at the same time since Warcraft III, though that island may be Balor or the Darkspear Islands instead.

    In Shadowlands, an archipelago known as the Exile's Reach appears roughly in a position where the northern islands once were.
    *back when vanilla was developed*

    doesnt really says nothing?


    Blizzard had this map too



    uhh zandalar a bit off the chart isnt?

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