Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nymrohd]

What gigantic continents? You're treating the map as if it was to scale. It's not. It only denotes the general location, not the actual space taken up by it.

A bunch of small islands off Lordaeron wouldn't be all that noticeable. Sure, they would look large in-game, but that's because Lordaeron itself is only the size of a small island there. Liechtenstein is larger than all Azerothian landmasses in game together, and it's tiny.

And really, flying islands could be above permanent cloud cover.

[Khaza-R]

Alpha Build and Maps are archaic.

Dire Maul was in Eastern Kingdom and went to Kalimdor...so I mean alpha vanilla was just an idea and by logic after finding Pandaria roaming the seas, we miss underground continent and or flying continent.


Keeping finding islands out of nowhere is getting a bit ridicolous.

They could just keep the map obscure or fogged out. That's partially their own fault for making everything appear to look found then turning around and being like "jk, not really" every other expansion.

Oh that would explain some things. Interesting!

That's quite the relocation though, all the same.

I am pretty sure a lot of the vanilla dungeons and raids just started as very generic concepts like "naga raid" or "ogre dungeon" and then later fleshed them out as they world built. An ogre dungeon in Alterac isn't that crazy.

[Dioporco]

What gigantic continents? You're treating the map as if it was to scale. It's not. It only denotes the general location, not the actual space taken up by it.

A bunch of small islands off Lordaeron wouldn't be all that noticeable. Sure, they would look large in-game, but that's because Lordaeron itself is only the size of a small island there. Liechtenstein is larger than all Azerothian landmasses in game together, and it's tiny.

Doesnt matter the scale, since is based upon the Alpha Map, hence is literally off the shore not 300 nautic miles away, hence are tiny or not because should be pretty fucking clear to see them there.

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And really, flying islands could be above permanent cloud cover.

Skypeia from One Piece, floating island on the clouds, nobody ever saw them while sailing.


ez

[Wangming]

This should be the most "plausible" azeroth map with proper scaling

with island expedition islands @Wangming

Oooh. Thank you kindly

[Dioporco]

They wouldn't do that I think because of the armor proficiencies. If you were a plate wearer and had minstrel, you would need to carry around a set of leather armor and roll on 2 sets of gear. Plus whatever weapons that are different. It would create a bunch of unnecessary complications.

Or when you swap to the °mono class° your gear changes proficency so it becomes leather from plate and it retains the stats.

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So according to ALPHA MAP and LEAK the plausible Dragon Isle location are these



Between Northrend and Broken Isle the sea enough wide to be and actual island or it could be a floating island, regarding miles away from tirisfal shore, it can be that closer and must be the other line, otherwise Silvermoon pre destruction should have known.

[MoFubuki13]

Hello everyone! I’ve been following the thread closely and, given how positive the reception has been, I thought I’d pop in just to confirm that Dragonflight is indeed the title of the next expansion! However, I would also encourage everyone to rein back their expectations a little, especially concerning the “leak thread” that coincidentally guessed the title. We do have ambitious plans, but not in the same direction.

[Wangming]

I am pretty sure a lot of the vanilla dungeons and raids just started as very generic concepts like "naga raid" or "ogre dungeon" and then later fleshed them out as they world built. An ogre dungeon in Alterac isn't that crazy.

Which explains the name "Dragon isles". Any chance we will learn a fancier more official name for them in the expansion?

[Wangming]

Hello everyone! I’ve been following the thread closely and, given how positive the reception has been, I thought I’d pop in just to confirm that Dragonflight is indeed the title of the next expansion! However, I would also encourage everyone to rein back their expectations a little, especially concerning the “leak thread” that coincidentally guessed the title. We do have ambitious plans, but not in the same direction.

Hey an LARP-er who can totally confirm what was 140% confirmable but can't say anything else. Cool

[ZyntosAran]

Hello everyone! I’ve been following the thread closely and, given how positive the reception has been, I thought I’d pop in just to confirm that Dragonflight is indeed the title of the next expansion! However, I would also encourage everyone to rein back their expectations a little, especially concerning the “leak thread” that coincidentally guessed the title. We do have ambitious plans, but not in the same direction.

Kekw /10char

[Vakir]

Something I miss about WoW at launch is purposeless zones. They were fun to just explore and speculate about. They were the promise of future content, made manifest. And they made the rest of the world feel larger simply by existing - there were areas that weren't all that relevant to anything, like Winterspring, Deadwind Pass, the Blasted Lands and so on. They exist because they built the world first instead of having the needs of the gameplay determine the very geology of the world.

Agreed. It indirectly makes the world appear smaller. Everything existing for a specific purpose ends up feeling utilitarian and it turns more into a Polly Pocket playset instead of a planet/dimension.

I get why they have to, WoW is a huge fucking game with a voracious player base, it's just something we left behind.

[Arcinatoss]

what if they pull a sneaky one on us and put the dragon isles on the right of the eastern kingdom, thus confirming the other side of azeroth.

[Dioporco]

Hello everyone! I’ve been following the thread closely and, given how positive the reception has been, I thought I’d pop in just to confirm that Dragonflight is indeed the title of the next expansion! However, I would also encourage everyone to rein back their expectations a little, especially concerning the “leak thread” that coincidentally guessed the title. We do have ambitious plans, but not in the same direction.

But in a previous post you said Housing was coming and he got Housing too but you didnt say he got that too.


strange

[Nightshade711]

The dragon isles being close to the Eastern Kingdoms, Lordaeron, and/or Northrend doesn’t make sense.

With the Kalimdor book they’re probably a good bit west of Kalimdor/ Azuremyst isle. And/or on the other side of Azeroth that’s still shrouded in storms/mists.

[Vakir]

But in a previous post you said Housing was coming and he got Housing too but you didnt say he got that too.

strange

He didn't say he didn't get anything else either!

It's all horseshit larping anyway.

[Lahis]

And given it is the Northrend version, more likely to be involved in some pre-expansion event than to have it move or something.

Northrend Dalaran wouldn't make sense for any pre-expansion event. Lorewise it doesn't even exists.

[draugril]

Agreed. It indirectly makes the world appear smaller. Everything existing for a specific purpose ends up feeling utilitarian and it turns more into a Polly Pocket playset instead of a planet/dimension.

I get why they have to, WoW is a huge fucking game with a voracious player base, it's just something we left behind.

I would love to see Winterspring revisited someday. It captures a very specific aesthetic of "winter-meets-twilight" with its slight pink and purple hues that nothing else really captures, especially if you know what those early morning hours look when the sun scatters itself across a field of snow.

[Vakir]

Northrend Dalaran wouldn't make sense for any pre-expansion event. Lorewise it doesn't even exists.

Galakrond. Proximity to Wyrmrest.

"We moved it again." Ez.

Besides, textures, maps, etc. get internal changes sometimes for totally unrelated reasons.

Remember Medivh's Birthday Bash? How about the Galakrond changes pre-9.0 that didn't materialize at all in that expac? Dev Island? Some things are prototypes or passion projects.

[Nightshade711]

Northrend Dalaran wouldn't make sense for any pre-expansion event. Lorewise it doesn't even exists.

The city could easily move back to Northrend.
Hell in Legion we saw it go from Northrend to Karazhan to the Broken Isles in one questline.

[huth]

[IMG]


This should be the most "plausible" azeroth map with proper scaling

with island expedition islands @Wangming

That scale is completely off. Northrend is less than half the size. Lordaeron would be incredibly huge, especially for it's supposed type of government. Arthas would have had to travel for weeks to get places, not days. All the expedition islands, as well as Zandalar and Kul Tiras, are also excessively large.

Looks like the creator just went with what "sounds right" without actually checking how big that would really be. Like G. R. R. Martins 700 foot wall. Lordaeron is nearly the size of the US on that map. Dalaran would be over 50 miles diameter.

[draugril]

But in a previous post you said Housing was coming and he got Housing too but you didnt say he got that too.


strange

The thing with leaks is... either they're 100% false or 100% true. They're real, or they're not. Even a leak that guesses 100% correctly would still be false. It's a pet peeve of mine when people see leaks in hindsight and imply that it was "half legitimate" and the like. As if they inserted misinformation. No, they just guessed wrong along with guessing right. Guessed aren't legitimate at all, no matter how accurate they wind up being.