1. #36961
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsirk View Post
    Could you imagine that we start getting WQ/Dailies popping up all over Azeroth that end up culminating into a huge battle/assault that Alliance and Horde both join to save the area. I think that would be fun. Toss in some transmogs and I'm sold!
    Moreover... I want world content that has a lose condition. Not enough people defend the zone? It's overrun for a day or two while WQs spawn there to clear it out.

  2. #36962
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Notice how the devs said the second Hearthstone expansion for 2022 had to do with something specific to what was going on in World of Warcraft right now & now the Year of the Hydra video conspicuously lacks the visual teaser for the other two expansions that's become a staple of these videos? Nothing to see here.
    I noticed the lack of teasers as well. But we did dragons so, so very recently. They also didn't say that about it being current-WoW related explicitly. But even then, wouldn't that mean Shadowlands more likely? That's a theme that's ripe that we haven't touched (imagine Covenant decks, MTG style) whereas Dragons are a thing basically every Core set and then some.

    My ears perked at Hydra too as I pointed out but I feel like now people are getting ahead of themselves.

  3. #36963
    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    Moreover... I want world content that has a lose condition. Not enough people defend the zone? It's overrun for a day or two while WQs spawn there to clear it out.
    I actually thought about that when I was typing it out, but you can almost hear the screams on the forums from people not able to fly into their flight path for a day.

  4. #36964
    Praying we’ll get new race/class combinations. I want my Night Elf Shaman T_T

  5. #36965
    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    Moreover... I want world content that has a lose condition. Not enough people defend the zone? It's overrun for a day or two while WQs spawn there to clear it out.
    As much as this is an interesting idea I think it will just end up the same as Nazjatar with the minibosses.they start out as complete stomps where failure is almost impossible. Then there is a brief moment where they work as intended. Then eventually it becomes something that noone does, and which eventually becomes close to impossible to do for anyone unfortunate enough to kiss out on the starting rush.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  6. #36966
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsirk View Post
    I actually thought about that when I was typing it out, but you can almost hear the screams on the forums from people not able to fly into their flight path for a day.
    Agreed. Unfortunately, the best ideas can become impediments to the daily grind.

  7. #36967
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsirk View Post
    I actually thought about that when I was typing it out, but you can almost hear the screams on the forums from people not able to fly into their flight path for a day.
    Good! The world should feel like a world, not a video game lobby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Agreed. Unfortunately, the best ideas can become impediments to the daily grind.
    Is the daily grind worthy of the pedestal it has been placed upon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    As much as this is an interesting idea I think it will just end up the same as Nazjatar with the minibosses.they start out as complete stomps where failure is almost impossible. Then there is a brief moment where they work as intended. Then eventually it becomes something that noone does, and which eventually becomes close to impossible to do for anyone unfortunate enough to kiss out on the starting rush.
    This is a fair point. But WoW does have a ton of adaptive scaling technology at their command these days...

  8. #36968
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    As much as this is an interesting idea I think it will just end up the same as Nazjatar with the minibosses.they start out as complete stomps where failure is almost impossible. Then there is a brief moment where they work as intended. Then eventually it becomes something that noone does, and which eventually becomes close to impossible to do for anyone unfortunate enough to kiss out on the starting rush.
    How about once you beat them back so far it opens up a warfront that everyone can join. Upon winning/losing the warfront it either takes back some of the land/progress or makes it more difficult? I want repercussions for losing. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    I really don't see Bards happening anytime soon, either. They simply seem out-of-place in Warcraft lore. It's too alien to the setting and would seem too awkward next to other classes.
    Yeah let's keep the setting with space boars from a different timeline and space goats saved from demonic corruption by glowing chinese text grounded and don't introduce common fantasy classes to dilute it.

  10. #36970
    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    My chief issue is that Bard is associated as heavily with the Support role as Priest is with the Healer role. You can bastardize the class and make it something else, but you lose the core gameplay identity of the class in the process. As WoW does not have a support role, I don't want to see the Bard class contorted into a mockery of what it could be.
    I had this amazing vision where Bard was made a profession and you increase your skill by going to Inns. At the Inn is a place to play that is structured just like the sausage eating contest at BrewFest. People wait their turn, hop onto available stools, and mash buttons to play songs with other players. Maybe provide an +XP buff that stacks over time for all patrons listening like the summer maypole XP buff; +1 for each player in the band. Play in Inns or outdoor stages across Azeroth to increase your profession skill and gain Achievements and Titles.

    It's more entertainment than dancing on mailboxes, right?

    TLDR: bard profession not class

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    I really don't see Bards happening anytime soon, either. They simply seem out-of-place in Warcraft lore. It's too alien to the setting and would seem too awkward next to other classes.
    I dunno about out of place but I have opposed and will continue to oppose it because I do not trust Blizzard to not either turn it into the D&D Meme Bard, or the Guitar Hero April Fools from Wrath.
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  12. #36972
    I wonder if we'll get a small time skip. I'd like like a 2-5 year one personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yusefstrasza View Post
    Praying we’ll get new race/class combinations. I want my Night Elf Shaman T_T
    I want that and nelf pally the most. (the latter for my wife who's been rping her nelf warrior as a paladin since 2005 and would happily spend some cash on some race/name changes to swap her warrior and paladin lol)

  13. #36973
    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    Is the daily grind worthy of the pedestal it has been placed upon?
    Not at all. If it were up to me, I'd go for this idea wholeheartedly. However, Blizzard has to keep in mind that most players tend to prefer something mindless, which is very problematic for players like me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yusefstrasza View Post
    Praying we’ll get new race/class combinations. I want my Night Elf Shaman T_T
    Shinto priests? Sign me up.

  15. #36975
    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Yeah let's keep the setting with space boars from a different timeline and space goats saved from demonic corruption by glowing chinese text grounded and don't introduce common fantasy classes to dilute it.
    Yes but unironically. Introducing a class to a setting in which it doesn't belong would be a terrible idea to me. A "common fantasy class" isn't sufficient to justify it. WoW isn't meant to be a "common fantasy setting". Bards don't fit.

    I'd also add that it can't really sell an expansion. Unless we get an expansion that explicitly and transparently connects to it thematically, we can't have it. See: Demon Hunters for Legion, Death Knights for WotLK, Monks for MoP. I don't see any expansion in which a Bard would be the immediate and self-evident response to its themes, and consequently no expansion which would justify Bards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Shinto priests? Sign me up.
    This just reminds me how much I'd love to see Blizz actually lean into a Japanese Ripoff Continent, no matter how much it'd make the same people who haven't played since Pandaria because of "Kung Fu Panda LUL" angry.
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  17. #36977
    Quote Originally Posted by Futhark View Post
    I had this amazing vision where Bard was made a profession and you increase your skill by going to Inns. At the Inn is a place to play that is structured just like the sausage eating contest at BrewFest. People wait their turn, hop onto available stools, and mash buttons to play songs with other players. Maybe provide an +XP buff that stacks over time for all patrons listening like the summer maypole XP buff; +1 for each player in the band. Play in Inns or outdoor stages across Azeroth to increase your profession skill and gain Achievements and Titles.

    It's more entertainment than dancing on mailboxes, right?

    TLDR: bard profession not class
    SW:G flashbacks right there...

  18. #36978
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Option 2.) A set of Elective specs
    I like this one the best, but to match the expansion theme, you can swear yourself to the respective Dragon Flights and pick up an extended role to add more flexibility to max level classes you already have:

    Black-Flight Tank Spec: Shaman, Warlock, Rogue
    Red-Flight Healer Spec: Mage, Hunter, Warrior(?)
    Blue-Flight Caster Spec: Monk, Paladin, DK, DH

    I would play a Black-Flight Shaman Tank all day.

  19. #36979
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    I dunno about out of place but I have opposed and will continue to oppose it because I do not trust Blizzard to not either turn it into the D&D Meme Bard, or the Guitar Hero April Fools from Wrath.
    Agreed. I could see Bards as being an interesting subset of a "Dashing Swashbuckler" archetype, but this is the type of Bard people seem to be leaning towards. I'm all for a Bard who may have one or two enchanted instruments and is mainly a sort of Jack Sparrow archetype (this could work as a Rogue specialization, actually), but I think the idea of a purely-musical, buff-based Bard is a terrible idea. I also think that we'll never get a class that doesn't have an explicit and transparent connection to an expansion theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Futhark View Post
    TLDR: bard profession not class
    Agreed. Your idea seems interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Not at all. If it were up to me, I'd go for this idea wholeheartedly. However, Blizzard has to keep in mind that most players tend to prefer something mindless, which is very problematic for players like me.
    forced dailies are casual unfriendly relics of the past that will hopefully disappear. The system shoud allow you to accumulate five days worth of dailies and do them in one go if you are so inclined.

    It would work for people who can only play a few hours every day as they can just do their dailies and be done with it.
    It would work for people who can't play at all on weekdays but are more than happy to no life the game on their weekend.

    Sure those who can no life it every day can't fit the game to their pace, but honestly those would clear a patch in a day and whine about nothing to do for the next five months so their oppinion doesn't matter. And frankly I quite doubt there are too many of those people anyway.

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