Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Catastrophy349]

https://twitter.com/jeffliu/status/1...jAXUQ3EIwk-HOw

I wonder what's coming

[Hypester]

It's weird the amount of twisting people are doing with the Dragonflight leak. Like, turning the classes into specs per armor type and whatnot. For me, I'd find it best to temper expectations, or you're going to be massively upset and start roleplaying how Gnolls are the savior of Azeroth or something.

I think that one poster who tried to tie it to classes had their mind in the right place but was misguided. There really are not that many problems with one spec classes, besides the fact that some people will be sad it doesn't have more specs. In which case I wonder if there is data on how many people multi-spec or not (and if Legion is any indication I bet it's not the majority of players)

[draugril]

https://twitter.com/jeffliu/status/1...jAXUQ3EIwk-HOw

I wonder what's coming

Senior UI Designer on World of Warcraft @ Blizzard — I designed WoW's character creation, auction house, Transmog system, and premade group finder

Interesting credentials...

[Black Rider]

Interesting credentials...

Maybe some UI overhaul?
Achievements definitely need it

[Kiivar86]

Could be any number of things but the Character Creation part is eyebrow raising, to be sure.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Interesting credentials...

If it's related to the prior jobs he did, probably a major transmog redesign.

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Could be any number of things but the Character Creation part is eyebrow raising, to be sure.

I doubt they'd redo creation after htey just redid creation.

[Arcinatoss]

Housing confirmed!!!!!!!!!! /s

I'd really like housing though so pls mr Jeff.

[Kiivar86]

I doubt they'd redo creation after htey just redid creation.

Was thinking more adding onto it.

Maybe with a new race that makes extensive use of customization.

[Hypester]

A UI revamp ties into the idea of 10.0 being a soft reboot IMO. Not like it needed to be tied to one but the Dragon theming for a Cata feel + other things kind of point to a "refresh" in many aspects.

Stuff like the Shadowlands character creation screen, Exiles Reach and cross-faction just came out a little earlier.

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I doubt they'd redo creation after htey just redid creation.

They will have to update the Cata-era backgrounds eventually.

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

I think that one poster who tried to tie it to classes had their mind in the right place but was misguided. There really are not that many problems with one spec classes, besides the fact that some people will be sad it doesn't have more specs. In which case I wonder if there is data on how many people multi-spec or not (and if Legion is any indication I bet it's not the majority of players)

And speculating them making new specs is fine. The problem lies with people trying to take a leak and build up more than what was given. If we are going with the leak being real, then I assume it would say new specs for classes instead of new classes. I mean, it separated class skins from new classes. If new specs were the intent, it would have said so.

Granted, I could be wrong or plans have changed and the new classes are now attached to other classes as specs, but until we get something that definitively says otherwise I feel it's best to temper expectations.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Was thinking more adding onto it.

Maybe with a new race that makes extensive use of customization.

New features wouldn't probably require a UI rework, though. That's the art team, Liu is on the UI team.

[Archmage Xaxxas]

Transmog overhaul?

Could be opening some restrictions, making Common and Uncommon appearances moggable?

We do need those Vanilla/Cata starting gears returned ingame as they 'promised'.

[Hypester]

And speculating them making new specs is fine. The problem lies with people trying to take a leak and build up more than what was given. If we are going with the leak being real, then I assume it would say new specs for classes instead of new classes. I mean, it separated class skins from new classes. If new specs were the intent, it would have said so.

Granted, I could be wrong or plans have changed and the new classes are now attached to other classes as specs, but until we get something that definitively says otherwise I feel it's best to temper expectations.

My point was that four one-spec classes are really not that crazy out of the question after Demon Hunters came out. The biggest damning thing is that "lol too much effort" and the argument is that they crapped out a filler expac to give them more time + no new class for 4 years.

Another argument is four extra class sets per tier, and they really may just not make them for those classes. Maybe they will add a "heritage set" for them.

[ercarp]

https://twitter.com/jeffliu/status/1...jAXUQ3EIwk-HOw

I wonder what's coming

Could be almost anything...

- General UI rework/improvements? (Please rework the Guild UI because the "improvements" of BfA only made it worse imo.)
- Housing interface? (Doubt...)
- More changes to character creation UI?
- A better Group Finder interface? (Would be about time because imo it looks dated.)
- UI elements for applying class skins? (This is pure hopium, but you never know.)

It has to be a pretty big thing with a lot of UI elements because I don't imagine Jeff would make a tweet hyping everybody up for a small rework of something relatively simple.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Interesting credentials...

Interesting. Seems like there's a new "service" with a unique UI, then—that, or a new system for character creation.

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Could be almost anything...

- General UI rework/improvements? (Please rework the Guild UI because the "improvements" of BfA only made it worse imo.)
- Housing interface? (Doubt...)
- More changes to character creation UI?
- A better Group Finder interface? (Would be about time because imo it looks dated.)

It has to be a pretty big thing with a lot of UI elements because I don't imagine Jeff would make a tweet hyping everybody up for a small rework of something relatively simple.

Indeed. I don't think they're just changing up the character creation UI again or anything—now, conversely, some kind of major change to character creation (the addition of, say, a subclass system—though i do maintain that it would have to be something like Allied Races, instead, and would be a "Prestige Class" system) or a new service seems reasonable. I'm thinking it's a "service" like Transmogrification, the Auction House or vendors, at least.

The need to hype it up makes it seem like something major. A housing interface would actually be a good possibility, I think. It has to be something very big if it warrants a comment from such a prominent and seemingly long-term figure.

[Hypester]

Could he not just be referring to the class skin option, if the text leak is correct?

[ercarp]

Also... His tweet has a cat emote! The implications behind this subtle hint are MEOWSIVE!



I hate that I typed this.

[Sondrelk]

Transmog overhaul?

Could be opening some restrictions, making Common and Uncommon appearances moggable?

We do need those Vanilla/Cata starting gears returned ingame as they 'promised'.

I just want to be able to transmog everything. (within reason of course, no two-handed axe as a dagger.)
There is simply no good reason why I cannot transmog leather pieces onto my hunter when cosmetic sets exist, or for that matter Blizzard itself refuses to adhere to the same principles when it comes to NPC design.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I just want to be able to transmog everything. (within reason of course, no two-handed axe as a dagger.)
There is simply no good reason why I cannot transmog leather pieces onto my hunter when cosmetic sets exist, or for that matter Blizzard itself refuses to adhere to the same principles when it comes to NPC design.

The thing that is important to note here is that it apparently took him, a lead UI designer, "several months" to do this. I don't think it will be anything simple at all. It has to be a serious overhaul or a whole new service system.

[Sondrelk]

Seems like we will be hitting 2000 pages by the time the announcement is here. Who would have thought all the way back in 9.1 when the page count was not even close to 1000...