Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Hypester]

Found something cool on twitter. Someone zoomed in on the Brill map on 9.2.5...

t witter.com/keyboardturn/status/1511076990316548102/photo/1

The middle structure is the old inn model, but the right structure seems to have HD textures for the wood paneling and ceiling that's being built.

Revamp for Forsaken stuff incoming?

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

As long as we get a new class and maybe a new race that is not some dogshit ass cringe garbage furry / scaley shit, we good

Now I desperately hope for playable dragonkin.

Found something cool on twitter. Someone zoomed in on the Brill map on 9.2.5...

t witter.com/keyboardturn/status/1511076990316548102/photo/1

The middle structure is the old inn model, but the right structure seems to have HD textures for the wood paneling and ceiling that's being built.

Revamp for Forsaken stuff incoming?

Very interesting find! If there's indeed a Lordaeron revamp in Dragonflight, that'd reasonably come with HD Forsaken buildings.

[Hyrja]

Lordaeron HD - Alliance Hub
Quel'Thalas HD - Horde Hub

would be cool

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

Lordaeron HD - Alliance Hub
Quel'Thalas HD - Horde Hub

would be cool

Hoping the rumors of Dalaran returning only to get sacked is true, and Quel'thalas/Lordaeron are our gateways into the Isles with new hub cities.

[Hypester]

Lordaeron HD - Alliance Hub
Quel'Thalas HD - Horde Hub

would be cool

They would have to be neutral, wouldn't they? That would be pretty rough for the Forsaken.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Btw I got no response to this concept I posted from earlier.
What if we got a class that is also a race? Wrathion helps a batch of Chromatic whelps hatch, a leftover experiment by Nefarian. You can play a whelp, shift between multiple forms (your chosen humanoid form, an HD whelp or small drake form and a hybrid combat form like the one Hearthstone Mercenaries created for Wrathion). You can also tap into your Chromatic heritage to shift between colors and tap into different powers. Your race is also your class, you have a combination of powers tied to the dragonflights with physical dragon powers though most powers depend on your active color (think stance dancing). SO you could have some powers that are very specific to your active flight while others are always active and some just are modified (so you can only use time abilities when Bronze, wing buffet with every spec, while breath is available to all but has a different damage type and secondary effect).
Multiple specs (could have as many as four tbh to cover all roles).

That's how I've always envisioned Dragons being made playable, certainly, though I'd always maintained it would have to just be Black Dragons.

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

It's weird the amount of twisting people are doing with the Dragonflight leak. Like, turning the classes into specs per armor type and whatnot. For me, I'd find it best to temper expectations, or you're going to be massively upset and start roleplaying how Gnolls are the savior of Azeroth or something.

If we're going off the Dragonflight leak, then it could mean two things: 1.) the leak is real and we need to take everything, the skins and one spec classes included, at face value until we are shown something that proves otherwise. or 2.) the leak got lucky with some things but is ultimately fake.

If 2 is the case, then it's great to use as a "wishlist" sort of thing. I'm personally leaning towards 1 at the moment due to the lore pieces lining up with the upcoming patch. That means, I would need to accept that necromancers end up resigned to a skin instead of a class onto itself. Hopefully, the next PTR drop will give us more insight.

[Sondrelk]

Well yeah. It should have been as advertised
This is the biggest issue with WoW. Features should keep being iterated upon until they work. Then they should be kept and maintained. Instead often they are just retired either without ever really making an effort to make them work or even worse, they are actually made functional or even good and then retired anyway.

The problem here is that it's sometimes difficult to figure out when a feature is changed, given a rethink, or mostly removed with only pieces left behind.

Is Torghast a continuation of Islands for instance? It's similarly based around RNG, with mostly randomized enemies and RNG abilities.
Or further still, is the Withered Training scenario something that became warfronts given it's focus on large amounts of minions?

M+ is a continuation of challenge mode dungeons for sure, but the way they function, as well as what rewards they give is very different. Is it then correct to say that Blizzard iterated on challenge mode dungeons until they became "perfect" with M+, or that they took the ideas that worked with challenge mode, ditched the ones that didnt, and then made something else with them?


And of course, sometimes a feature just flat out doesnt work. Azerite being a good example of something that was supposed to be an iteration on Tier sets with fewer downsides, but ended up being a creative dead-end when the systems surrounding it became obnoxious, which meant we eventually ended up back at Tier sets classic in the current patch.


I would say the important thing is that Blizzard doesnt make the same mistake twice. Or if they did that they at least made a valiant effort to solve the problem by going at it from a different angle. Azerite again being a good example. They tried to make it work with Artifacts and it failed. Then they tried again with Azerite and it still failed. So in SL they instead pretty much ditched the idea and instead tried to just make external talent trees work.

[Catastrophy349]

https://twitter.com/jeffliu/status/1...jAXUQ3EIwk-HOw

I wonder what's coming

[Hypester]

It's weird the amount of twisting people are doing with the Dragonflight leak. Like, turning the classes into specs per armor type and whatnot. For me, I'd find it best to temper expectations, or you're going to be massively upset and start roleplaying how Gnolls are the savior of Azeroth or something.

I think that one poster who tried to tie it to classes had their mind in the right place but was misguided. There really are not that many problems with one spec classes, besides the fact that some people will be sad it doesn't have more specs. In which case I wonder if there is data on how many people multi-spec or not (and if Legion is any indication I bet it's not the majority of players)

[draugril]

https://twitter.com/jeffliu/status/1...jAXUQ3EIwk-HOw

I wonder what's coming

Senior UI Designer on World of Warcraft @ Blizzard — I designed WoW's character creation, auction house, Transmog system, and premade group finder

Interesting credentials...

[Black Rider]

Interesting credentials...

Maybe some UI overhaul?
Achievements definitely need it

[Kiivar86]

Could be any number of things but the Character Creation part is eyebrow raising, to be sure.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Interesting credentials...

If it's related to the prior jobs he did, probably a major transmog redesign.

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Could be any number of things but the Character Creation part is eyebrow raising, to be sure.

I doubt they'd redo creation after htey just redid creation.

[Arcinatoss]

Housing confirmed!!!!!!!!!! /s

I'd really like housing though so pls mr Jeff.

[Kiivar86]

I doubt they'd redo creation after htey just redid creation.

Was thinking more adding onto it.

Maybe with a new race that makes extensive use of customization.

[Hypester]

A UI revamp ties into the idea of 10.0 being a soft reboot IMO. Not like it needed to be tied to one but the Dragon theming for a Cata feel + other things kind of point to a "refresh" in many aspects.

Stuff like the Shadowlands character creation screen, Exiles Reach and cross-faction just came out a little earlier.

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I doubt they'd redo creation after htey just redid creation.

They will have to update the Cata-era backgrounds eventually.

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

I think that one poster who tried to tie it to classes had their mind in the right place but was misguided. There really are not that many problems with one spec classes, besides the fact that some people will be sad it doesn't have more specs. In which case I wonder if there is data on how many people multi-spec or not (and if Legion is any indication I bet it's not the majority of players)

And speculating them making new specs is fine. The problem lies with people trying to take a leak and build up more than what was given. If we are going with the leak being real, then I assume it would say new specs for classes instead of new classes. I mean, it separated class skins from new classes. If new specs were the intent, it would have said so.

Granted, I could be wrong or plans have changed and the new classes are now attached to other classes as specs, but until we get something that definitively says otherwise I feel it's best to temper expectations.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Was thinking more adding onto it.

Maybe with a new race that makes extensive use of customization.

New features wouldn't probably require a UI rework, though. That's the art team, Liu is on the UI team.

[Archmage Xaxxas]

Transmog overhaul?

Could be opening some restrictions, making Common and Uncommon appearances moggable?

We do need those Vanilla/Cata starting gears returned ingame as they 'promised'.