Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Chickat]

Tbh if I had a choice for a timewalking campaign in Azeroth's past, my only choice is Troll vs Aqir war. We know much less about everyone involved, possibly all of the Aqir races involved, we'd have the Hunt for Kith'ix, the Siege of Ahn'qiraj and the Conquest of Zul'drak, possibly other races having to deal with the fallout as well

And still think the three Cata dungeons from 4.3 should just have been part of the raid. Cut some of the weaker bosses in Dragon Soul and add insane faction leaders, Murozond, Azshara, Mannoroth, Benedictus? Yes please.

Should have only been 2 dungeons. Cut 2 of the weaker bosses in Dragon Soul. 5 boss Well of Eternity Raid.

[Revamp Man]

I'm not entirely up to speed with the lore, but weren't there many theories that Brokers were just Ethereals who underwent a slightly different transformation? Like, maybe Ethereals were alive when the Void stuff hit them and Brokers died first, but their spirits were hit by these energies before they could be claimed by the Shadowlands, which would explain why we haven't met them before coming here. Or the Brokers were those who actually got devoured by Dimensius. Something like that.

It seems like, according to in game hints and story, the brokers got away before their planet got messed up and created what we now know as ethereals

Think of it like Jurassic park
One group left the island and the others didn’t and died

[Das Thora]

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A few revamped zones with dragon isle zones


Now if I was designing it I would have leveling take place in 4 revamped zones and dragon isles the max level zones with more zones unlocked there with patches

Which zones do you think are getting revamped?

[Wangming]

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A few revamped zones with dragon isle zones


Now if I was designing it I would have leveling take place in 4 revamped zones and dragon isles the max level zones with more zones unlocked there with patches

I know I kinda speak against myself as I was the one who pointed out how small the original Dragon Isles are, but if they are indeed doing it, I hope they are the size of Pandaria or close to it.
Give me:
- A more serious version of Ul'dum
- A partially submerged zone with the temples for the OG Dragon isles concept.
- A primordial wild jungle like Un'goro on steroids.
- A creepy marshland
- An Emerald Dream esque enchanted forest
- An icy highland
- A fiery field of ash at the foot of an active volcano
- An Ulduar sized working, not hostile Titan facility.

As for revamps? Lordaeron, Gilneas and Quel'Thas. They really need it.

[Dracullus]

I seriously doubt about revamp now. Imo it would be only landmass of expac and I can't imagine Dragonflight without Dragon Isles as full continent.

Unless whole revamp will be just changing textures and models without touching quests. In that case sure why not.

[Super Dickmann]

Tbh if I had a choice for a timewalking campaign in Azeroth's past, my only choice is Troll vs Aqir war. We know much less about everyone involved, possibly all of the Aqir races involved, we'd have the Hunt for Kith'ix, the Siege of Ahn'qiraj and the Conquest of Zul'drak, possibly other races having to deal with the fallout as well

And still think the three Cata dungeons from 4.3 should just have been part of the raid. Cut some of the weaker bosses in Dragon Soul and add insane faction leaders, Murozond, Azshara, Mannoroth, Benedictus? Yes please.

It's uncanny that the end raid of the expansion is a pile of reused assets, some reused twice given they were also in that Thrall dungeon, and half-considered boss concepts while Well of Eternity and Endtime both have at least reskins if not outright unique assets.

[Luck4]

I seriously doubt about revamp now. Imo it would be only landmass of expac and I can't imagine Dragonflight without Dragon Isles as full continent.

Unless whole revamp will be just changing textures and models without touching quests. In that case sure why not.

Tbf, I also believe that a full world revamp isn't coming, but I'm hoping for at least a full revamp of the north segment of the Eastern Kingdoms (everything that's above Wetlands).

[Dracullus]

Tbf, I also believe that a full world revamp isn't coming, but I'm hoping for at least a full revamp of the north segment of the Eastern Kingdoms (everything that's above Wetlands).

I still believe for revamp some day, I just don't think it will be now with that name leak.

And yeah, with SL leveling changes their hands are not tied, any part of world could be revamped, old version would be just another option for Chromie.

[Zergin8r]

Ok so... if the next expansion is about dragons, what role exactly will they be playing since they lost their powers, and ability to reproduce after Cata to empower the Dragon Soul for the final raid.
I guess Blizz forgot about that though since they keep popping up and still have powers....

[ExiHext]

Now that we're near the end of the leak season what do you guys think:

1. Dragonflight is a mainland expansion with Dragon Isles being the central continent;
2. Dragonflight is a revamp expansion like Cataclysm, and Dragon Isles is just a zone like Twilight Highlands;
3. Dragonflight is something new, maybe a mix of the two options above;
4. Dragonflight is not the next expansion!

Personally, I'm hoping for option 2... for obvious reasons.

It's either 1. or 3.
And knowing how lazy Blizzard is it's going to be 1. I still don't see the benefit of revamping the old world besides some people in this thread (me included) really wanting it. A revamp is pointless if it is only for levelling from 1-50 (people stay merely hours in this level range) and I absolutely don't see them revamping the whole levelling process and making old world content (even if it is newly created for the revamp) being relevant at max level. Historically only max level content counts and this will probably completely be on the Dragon Isles.
That said, this is of course my personal opinion but as someone waiting for a revamp I wouldn't set my hopes too high. Perhaps they change some buildings and/or mobs to those with higher resolution but that's all I can see happening.

[Revamp Man]

Which zones do you think are getting revamped?

Personally I would make sure they are zones that can set up story

Lordaeron for the scarlet crusade

Quelthalas for a story about the void flight or maybe infinite

Dragonblight for galakrond

Then twilight highlands for chromatus getting revived

Dragon isles with two zones at launch
1 for the finale of leveling and the new hub city
1 for endgame stuff

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Ok so... if the next expansion is about dragons, what role exactly will they be playing since they lost their powers, and ability to reproduce after Cata to empower the Dragon Soul for the final raid.
I guess Blizz forgot about that though since they keep popping up and still have powers....

I imagine they can make a story about the next generation of dragons getting empowered by Azeroth

[Wangming]

Ok so... if the next expansion is about dragons, what role exactly will they be playing since they lost their powers, and ability to reproduce after Cata to empower the Dragon Soul for the final raid.
I guess Blizz forgot about that though since they keep popping up and still have powers....

Honestly? The most like scenario is that the story will focus on us undoing the end of Cataclysm so that the Dragon Aspects can guard us from whatever extra cosmic BS the Jailer was afraid of.

[Alanar]

Personally I would make sure they are zones that can set up story

Lordaeron for the scarlet crusade

Quelthalas for a story about the void flight or maybe infinite

Dragonblight for galakrond

Then twilight highlands for chromatus getting revived

Dragon isles with two zones at launch
1 for the finale of leveling and the new hub city
1 for endgame stuff

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I imagine they can make a story about the next generation of dragons getting empowered by Azeroth

To protect Azeroth ONCE MORE!!!!
This is gonna be such a cringe story, but who knew!

[Shadochi]

Honestly? The most like scenario is that the story will focus on us undoing the end of Cataclysm so that the Dragon Aspects can guard us from whatever extra cosmic BS the Jailer was afraid of.

At this point I am more surprised that the dragons havent done anything yet, seeing how we have the Pillars. But yeah even if they cant reproduce no more atm, there are still dragon eggs left over for the time being

[Tusks r cool]

Tbh I think the dragons are the link to some Life realm due to the fact that some Oracle in ZM talked several languages:
-demonic
-void language (can't remember the name)
-draconic (which can be interpreted as life language?)

[Sondrelk]

Now that we're near the end of the leak season what do you guys think:

1. Dragonflight is a mainland expansion with Dragon Isles being the central continent;
2. Dragonflight is a revamp expansion like Cataclysm, and Dragon Isles is just a zone like Twilight Highlands;
3. Dragonflight is something new, maybe a mix of the two options above;
4. Dragonflight is not the next expansion!

Personally, I'm hoping for option 2... for obvious reasons.

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Had a long think about this, and I guess it comes down to what the Dragon Isles look like.
If it's just another island then I would definitely want a focus on a world revamp instead. We have enough normal islands at this point. We might as well just reuse older areas instead.

If the Dragon isles are floating and generally more high-concept, then I would definitely prefer just the Dragon isles with maybe a couple of revamped zones instead so Blizzard could focus on making the zones good instead of just having lots of them, which is the mistake Cataclysm did.

[Jekyll]

This is definitely for the red dragon zone.

Or maybe its to replace the lynx model in Quel'thalas lamo

It's going to be the Halfling race's racial mount.

[Nyel]

Could that launch November, or too soon?

WotLK Classic for sure will launch around its 14-year-anniversary mid November.

By the way, halflings in WoW? This sounds so bad.

[Wangming]

WotLK Classic for sure will launch around its 14-year-anniversary mid November.

By the way, halflings in WoW? This sounds so bad.

I can totally see that. Launch Wrath Classic this year so they can again talk about how strong the game is doing despite being a non-expansion year.

As for Halflings....my only problem is that we already have dwarves, gnomes, and goblins. How many variations of midget do we need in a setting?

[Nymrohd]

How exactly am i doing that? By disagreeing?

Are you so used to people agreeing with you that you treat anything else as people being hostile and toxic?

Have you never had to argue your case?

Eh, you are calling them sheep. What argument can be made when your initial position is "People who like this playstyle are incapable of critical thinking" You do it in multiple spots; the people who prefer solo play are decorated with any number of devaluing descriptors by you, without argument as to why. So yeah, you are not someone worth arguing with because you do not form statements but rather attack people's preferences.