Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[therumblings]

Yeah. The Broken Isles was just irrelevant. We knew where it was, we just had no reason to go there.

That being said, as much as I loved finally exploring the Broken Isles and BFA zones, I'd love for an expansion on the other side of Azeroth with a bunch of new continents that were not known before, like Pandaria. It could give us literal years worth of expansions and new lore and zones to explore.

[ClassicPeon]

You appear not to realize the difference between availability and quality. Of course, everybody likes and desires water. However, nobody wants to drink water that is full of waste. Festering water is the concern, not the water in itself.

There is nothing inherently wrong with the group content. Its just that if offered sheep will always take the path of least resistance.

[Nymrohd]

There is nothing inherently wrong with the group content. Its just that if offered sheep will always take the path of least resistance.

Yeah, when you keep devaluing every person who likes to play the game in a different way than you, your opinion automatically becomes worthless.

[ClassicPeon]

Yeah, when you keep devaluing every person who likes to play the game in a different way than you, your opinion automatically becomes worthless.

How exactly am i doing that? By disagreeing?

Are you so used to people agreeing with you that you treat anything else as people being hostile and toxic?

Have you never had to argue your case?

[Revamp Man]

interesting thing im not sure many have noticed but the neck from xymox taht teleports you has story implications

for example cartel Xy had a ship on draenor before it became outland at least if you go by the wrecked ship and assume it was there before the big boom

then theres also the broker chick that we find early in haven when her beloved is talking to her she was a member of cartel Ai but apparently left/ it was wiped out i dont remember if it was touched upon

now if we knew the hierarchy of these cartels we could figure out how important xymox was and their planet was destroyed so we might be able to assume based on their portal tech that they are from the same planet as the ethereals

[Wangming]

That being said, as much as I loved finally exploring the Broken Isles and BFA zones, I'd love for an expansion on the other side of Azeroth with a bunch of new continents that were not known before, like Pandaria. It could give us literal years worth of expansions and new lore and zones to explore.

Vanilla, Wrath, Cata, MoP, Legion, and BfA were all set on Azeroth and we still didn't explore all of this side. If we assume that the other side is just as big it could give us 12-14 years of exploration.

Fuck, there should be a southern side here as well.

[Luck4]

Now that we're near the end of the leak season what do you guys think:

1. Dragonflight is a mainland expansion with Dragon Isles being the central continent;
2. Dragonflight is a revamp expansion like Cataclysm, and Dragon Isles is just a zone like Twilight Highlands;
3. Dragonflight is something new, maybe a mix of the two options above;
4. Dragonflight is not the next expansion!

Personally, I'm hoping for option 2... for obvious reasons.

[Soulwind]

now if we knew the hierarchy of these cartels we could figure out how important xymox was and their planet was destroyed so we might be able to assume based on their portal tech that they are from the same planet as the ethereals

I'm not entirely up to speed with the lore, but weren't there many theories that Brokers were just Ethereals who underwent a slightly different transformation? Like, maybe Ethereals were alive when the Void stuff hit them and Brokers died first, but their spirits were hit by these energies before they could be claimed by the Shadowlands, which would explain why we haven't met them before coming here. Or the Brokers were those who actually got devoured by Dimensius. Something like that.

[Revamp Man]

Now that we're near the end of the leak season what do you guys think:

1. Dragonflight is a mainland expansion with Dragon Isles being the central continent;
2. Dragonflight is a revamp expansion like Cataclysm, and Dragon Isles is just a zone like Twilight Highlands;
3. Dragonflight is something new, maybe a mix of the two options above;
4. Dragonflight is not the next expansion!

Personally, I'm hoping for option 2... for obvious reasons.

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A few revamped zones with dragon isle zones


Now if I was designing it I would have leveling take place in 4 revamped zones and dragon isles the max level zones with more zones unlocked there with patches

[Chickat]

Tbh if I had a choice for a timewalking campaign in Azeroth's past, my only choice is Troll vs Aqir war. We know much less about everyone involved, possibly all of the Aqir races involved, we'd have the Hunt for Kith'ix, the Siege of Ahn'qiraj and the Conquest of Zul'drak, possibly other races having to deal with the fallout as well

And still think the three Cata dungeons from 4.3 should just have been part of the raid. Cut some of the weaker bosses in Dragon Soul and add insane faction leaders, Murozond, Azshara, Mannoroth, Benedictus? Yes please.

Should have only been 2 dungeons. Cut 2 of the weaker bosses in Dragon Soul. 5 boss Well of Eternity Raid.

[Revamp Man]

I'm not entirely up to speed with the lore, but weren't there many theories that Brokers were just Ethereals who underwent a slightly different transformation? Like, maybe Ethereals were alive when the Void stuff hit them and Brokers died first, but their spirits were hit by these energies before they could be claimed by the Shadowlands, which would explain why we haven't met them before coming here. Or the Brokers were those who actually got devoured by Dimensius. Something like that.

It seems like, according to in game hints and story, the brokers got away before their planet got messed up and created what we now know as ethereals

Think of it like Jurassic park
One group left the island and the others didn’t and died

[Das Thora]

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A few revamped zones with dragon isle zones


Now if I was designing it I would have leveling take place in 4 revamped zones and dragon isles the max level zones with more zones unlocked there with patches

Which zones do you think are getting revamped?

[Wangming]

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A few revamped zones with dragon isle zones


Now if I was designing it I would have leveling take place in 4 revamped zones and dragon isles the max level zones with more zones unlocked there with patches

I know I kinda speak against myself as I was the one who pointed out how small the original Dragon Isles are, but if they are indeed doing it, I hope they are the size of Pandaria or close to it.
Give me:
- A more serious version of Ul'dum
- A partially submerged zone with the temples for the OG Dragon isles concept.
- A primordial wild jungle like Un'goro on steroids.
- A creepy marshland
- An Emerald Dream esque enchanted forest
- An icy highland
- A fiery field of ash at the foot of an active volcano
- An Ulduar sized working, not hostile Titan facility.

As for revamps? Lordaeron, Gilneas and Quel'Thas. They really need it.

[Dracullus]

I seriously doubt about revamp now. Imo it would be only landmass of expac and I can't imagine Dragonflight without Dragon Isles as full continent.

Unless whole revamp will be just changing textures and models without touching quests. In that case sure why not.

[Super Dickmann]

Tbh if I had a choice for a timewalking campaign in Azeroth's past, my only choice is Troll vs Aqir war. We know much less about everyone involved, possibly all of the Aqir races involved, we'd have the Hunt for Kith'ix, the Siege of Ahn'qiraj and the Conquest of Zul'drak, possibly other races having to deal with the fallout as well

And still think the three Cata dungeons from 4.3 should just have been part of the raid. Cut some of the weaker bosses in Dragon Soul and add insane faction leaders, Murozond, Azshara, Mannoroth, Benedictus? Yes please.

It's uncanny that the end raid of the expansion is a pile of reused assets, some reused twice given they were also in that Thrall dungeon, and half-considered boss concepts while Well of Eternity and Endtime both have at least reskins if not outright unique assets.

[Luck4]

I seriously doubt about revamp now. Imo it would be only landmass of expac and I can't imagine Dragonflight without Dragon Isles as full continent.

Unless whole revamp will be just changing textures and models without touching quests. In that case sure why not.

Tbf, I also believe that a full world revamp isn't coming, but I'm hoping for at least a full revamp of the north segment of the Eastern Kingdoms (everything that's above Wetlands).

[Dracullus]

Tbf, I also believe that a full world revamp isn't coming, but I'm hoping for at least a full revamp of the north segment of the Eastern Kingdoms (everything that's above Wetlands).

I still believe for revamp some day, I just don't think it will be now with that name leak.

And yeah, with SL leveling changes their hands are not tied, any part of world could be revamped, old version would be just another option for Chromie.

[Zergin8r]

Ok so... if the next expansion is about dragons, what role exactly will they be playing since they lost their powers, and ability to reproduce after Cata to empower the Dragon Soul for the final raid.
I guess Blizz forgot about that though since they keep popping up and still have powers....

[ExiHext]

Now that we're near the end of the leak season what do you guys think:

1. Dragonflight is a mainland expansion with Dragon Isles being the central continent;
2. Dragonflight is a revamp expansion like Cataclysm, and Dragon Isles is just a zone like Twilight Highlands;
3. Dragonflight is something new, maybe a mix of the two options above;
4. Dragonflight is not the next expansion!

Personally, I'm hoping for option 2... for obvious reasons.

It's either 1. or 3.
And knowing how lazy Blizzard is it's going to be 1. I still don't see the benefit of revamping the old world besides some people in this thread (me included) really wanting it. A revamp is pointless if it is only for levelling from 1-50 (people stay merely hours in this level range) and I absolutely don't see them revamping the whole levelling process and making old world content (even if it is newly created for the revamp) being relevant at max level. Historically only max level content counts and this will probably completely be on the Dragon Isles.
That said, this is of course my personal opinion but as someone waiting for a revamp I wouldn't set my hopes too high. Perhaps they change some buildings and/or mobs to those with higher resolution but that's all I can see happening.

[Revamp Man]

Which zones do you think are getting revamped?

Personally I would make sure they are zones that can set up story

Lordaeron for the scarlet crusade

Quelthalas for a story about the void flight or maybe infinite

Dragonblight for galakrond

Then twilight highlands for chromatus getting revived

Dragon isles with two zones at launch
1 for the finale of leveling and the new hub city
1 for endgame stuff

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Ok so... if the next expansion is about dragons, what role exactly will they be playing since they lost their powers, and ability to reproduce after Cata to empower the Dragon Soul for the final raid.
I guess Blizz forgot about that though since they keep popping up and still have powers....

I imagine they can make a story about the next generation of dragons getting empowered by Azeroth