Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Hypester]

No. I think he's being silent because he found something void related...

A ren’dorei taking over SMC flag????

[Kiivar86]

Also the ghost harbor bullshit leak was way before we saw the Shadowlands logo, Bolvar CGI, Kyrian flier, etc. Everyone was already predicting the Shadowlands.

As I recall from the google doc with all the "leaks", there were like 11 "Shadowlands" ones prior to the reveal, so yeah, lot of them tried at it.

[Nymrohd]

lol, so great.

the „much-anticipated mobile game“

1)
before 2022 noone
- has ever heart of it
- has never asked for it

2)
yeah, ppl love mobile games. especially the Blittard crowd! and Diablo Immortal was super welcome on Blizzcon. lol

People have been asking for a mobile game to do pet battles for years now.

[Vakir]

I remember people shitting on the leaks because Blue Bolvar, Kyrians and Bastion “didn’t make sense” with what we knew about the Shadowlands (namely that it was black and white opposite world)

Hope we know better now!

Nobody is really omitting anything from the Dragonflight leak because of stuff like that, though.

Pretty much all we have is a name. The rest is proposed 90% of the time. I just think people shouldn't set such high expectations.

[Hypester]

Nobody is really omitting anything from the Dragonflight leak because of stuff like that, though.

Pretty much all we have is a name. The rest is proposed 90% of the time. I just think people shouldn't set such high expectations.

It’s not as pronounced as back then, no, but there has been some discourse about how the name doesn’t make sense because the leak doesn’t include much about Dragons.

Although it’s very similar to launch Legion.

[Ersula]

...the one in question is from early February. Well before the name leak. It helps to know what you're talking about.

You know Dragonflight is an established WoW term, right, far more than any previous expansion's title? How about the concept of a "lucky guess"?

[SniperCT]

Yeah, because removing leveling from an MMO sounds so amazing and game saving. I can't wait to not gain any levels going through the zones because it just feels so good when my character doesn't progress. And then you have four incomplete classes (that they would spin into "micro classes") and housing that's going to eat up all of Blizzard's resources so the rest of the expansion will be shit and devoid of content. Sounds great.



Could be. I hope that's it.

Neither GW2 or ESO raise the level cap with their expansions but players can still progress and it still feels pretty good. EQ alternates between level caps raises and non raises (the non raising expansion uses an alternate advancement system, which is what I want WoW to have, though closer to ESO's system, which works wonderfully)

Microclasses are stupid though.

[Vakir]

You know Dragonflight is an established WoW term, right, far more than any previous expansion's title? How about the concept of a "lucky guess"?

I am in agreement. But you said that it came from after the name leak when it didn't.

Quote,

C'mon you guys have to be smarter than this: You're giving credibility to a leak just because of the name AFTER it was confirmed?

Take the damn L. Literally for once. "Whoops, I messed up, my bad."

It’s not as pronounced as back then, no, but there has been some discourse about how the name doesn’t make sense because the leak doesn’t include much about Dragons.

Although it’s very similar to launch Legion.

If you think for two seconds about what goes into a new class, even a single one, this is far beyond Legion.

If I'm wrong it will be a pleasant surprise. Stuff sounds dope even if I'm sure it'll be a balancing nightmare, but isn't everything.

[Hypester]

“Dragonflight? That’s dumb... which one?!”

Its probably the hardest to guess name since Cata.

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If you think for two seconds about what goes into a new class, even a single one, this is far beyond Legion.

The lack of focus on the box/title theme at launch is what I am referring to with Legion and Dragonflight.

[Vakir]

The lack of focus on the box/title theme at launch is what I am referring to with Legion and Dragonflight.

Oh, that. My bad.

Yeah that's good with me though. The Legion was the most boring part of Legion. Hyperfocused expansions blow. SL practically may as well not happened. Some of the best stuff in Mists or Wrath were B and C stories wholly unrelated to the base theme.

[Raetary]

It’s not as pronounced as back then, no, but there has been some discourse about how the name doesn’t make sense because the leak doesn’t include much about Dragons.

Although it’s very similar to launch Legion.

No?
Legion centered almost entirely around the legion invasion from beginning to end, whereas these leaks speak of the dragons being a subplot.

[Marlamin]

I bet you a couple robux that Marl found something Dark Ranger related.

No. I think he's being silent because he found something void related...

1) That's a made up currency by a scummy company
2) No, y'all trying to find hype where there isn't any, calm down

[Dracullus]

I think it's pretty clear that only narrative purpose for Anduin staying in SL is to delay conflict with Turalyon. And that will for sure start some "Light as villain" arc.

[bullseyed]

Transmog is one of the most popular things in the game, people love dressing up and customizing their stuff.

Mounts and transmogs are status-symbols, not dress up.

That's why "rare" titles, "unique" mounts and the "best" appearances are restricted to mythic raiding.

The concept of "welfare epics" has led to including a lot more of these at a lot of other levels of content, which is why as a whole they are less valued than ever before. Like how the KSM mount is used for like 1 week and then half the players have it so no one cares anymore.

[Lady Atia]

Yeah, because removing leveling from an MMO sounds so amazing and game saving. I can't wait to not gain any levels going through the zones because it just feels so good when my character doesn't progress. And then you have four incomplete classes (that they would spin into "micro classes") and housing that's going to eat up all of Blizzard's resources so the rest of the expansion will be shit and devoid of content. Sounds great.



Could be. I hope that's it.

My gf told me that GW2 has no new leveling content for it's expansions and they are doing just fine. You will still get the same story campaign you would do anyways, just without the hassle of new levels and you will prolly be able to skip the campaign on alts for quicker endgame play. Sounds good to me. (And for the record, I love leveling and that part isn't something I'm wanting but it would be worth it if we get the micro classes, class skins aswell as housing).

And leveling four new classes ontop of housing is the opposite of "devoid of content" in my eyes, especially as we still would get 8 dungeons for m+ and prolly a 10 boss raid for season 1.

[deviantcultist]

“Dragonflight? That’s dumb... which one?!”

Its probably the hardest to guess name since Cata.

Sounds like "united in a single Dragonflight" kind of shenanigans.

[Lady Atia]

Mounts and transmogs are status-symbols, not dress up.

That's why "rare" titles, "unique" mounts and the "best" appearances are restricted to mythic raiding.

The concept of "welfare epics" has led to including a lot more of these at a lot of other levels of content, which is why as a whole they are less valued than ever before. Like how the KSM mount is used for like 1 week and then half the players have it so no one cares anymore.

If you only use a mount, transmog or title because you wanna brag - well you do you but looks like you have to compensate for something. The time were mounts are status-symbols are long gone, that was during tbc/wotlk/cata where you only had a handful of skins - these days there are tons of awesome mounts, titles and transmogs and yes, most normal people use that stuff for dress up, not for posing.

Edit: And yes, there are currently tons of mounts that are awesome and you can get without doing any mythic or elite content.

[Vakir]

No?
Legion centered almost entirely around the legion invasion from beginning to end, whereas these leaks speak of the dragons being a subplot.

Hard disagree. The dragons in Aszuna and the Withered were side plots compared to the first leg of the zone but they took the majority of the duration. The Nightmare had way more presence than the Legion in Val'sharah, though obviously there is somewhat of an alliance happening. The Drogbar and Maela's deal are more the focus of Highmountain story than the Feltotem, and while Stormheim leans on the predication that Skovald is working with the Legion, it's themed way more strongly around Vrykul culture and Helya.

Suramar is about the Nightborne leadership making a deal with the Legion...but up until the Inquisition developments in 7.1, it's largely about their culture and addiction rather than just "lol demons."

The Legion is seeded into all of it, but it's not just a big green fucking shitmark all over every zone and crams itself into every corner. Just like Northrend or Pandaria had diverse threats that weren't just Arthas or the Sha/Garrosh plot. The big bad focus strengthened over time to avoid burnout (or had a break in the Thunder King's case).

Theoretically, the best version of Dragonflight will have dragons take a bit of a side seat until the later patches that ramp it up. Or else it gets tiresome over 2 years.

[Niwes]

It was confirmed that they're working on 2 mobile games last year in February, and we assumed as much even before that due to job postings and dev quotes at BlizzCon.

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People have been asking for a mobile game to do pet battles for years now.

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the reality is: mobile games make better revenues. more profit. perfect for greedy comapnies. because you can way better grab ppls money by smart cash grab systems. mobile gaming is only there, as a transport medium for smart cash grab systems. look at hearthsone and others. how do you think Blizz made money with it? and how high do you think, the development costs of a game like HS is? in comparison to WoW or maybe Overwatch ?

do a poll. ask 10.000 wow players if they wanna either a) a better wow pc game (a well done xpac) or b) a warcraft mobile game. i pay you 100 pizzas, when you get better results than 85/15…

[shoc]

If we get Dragon Isles I hope it stays true to the WC2 iteration. The whole expansion takes place on the body of a continent-sized dragon.