Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Hypester]

- Slyvanas, main protagonist of the last 2,5 xpacs.
- Throw Sylvanas into the maw, for a long long time.
- Half the playerbae hates Sylvanas, after that shit story.
- „We close a chapter now“ (S. Danuser).

Sylvanus is the main character of new xpac !!!!

doesnt this make sense ?

It took 4 IRL years for Sylvanas to get punished. People got mindbroken into being slobbering morons by Blizzards dumbass choice to do a four year story arc without satisfying midpoints.

I think they vastly underestimated how sensitive their playerbase is. Nathanos was meant to be the first half antagonist, hence why he bullied the players, but people treated it like they were getting abused by the devs themselves.

[Vakir]

Nope, just going to be talking about some datamining methods I utilitize that aren't generally known and allow for finding a bit more information than what is currently out there about these and other encrypted things (but nothing spoilery) in the hopes of Blizzard fixing these as we got into 10.0 (and hopefully making it harder to datamining spoilers in the future).

You're very white hat about this. I admire and appreciate it. As juicy as datamining is, in an ideal world we won't know fuck all until we experience it in game outside class changes and tuning. It really does fuck with and color experiences before they happen, so things that are authentically well done get to be experienced as intended (like if Sargeras' sword wasn't totally ruined, or Pelagos Arbiter that was at least better with context) while things that are genuinely shit still get criticized as they're seen rather than via knee jerk impressions (like the Anduin and Jailer endings).

[Hypester]

I bet you a couple robux that Marl found something Dark Ranger related.

[Ersula]

Weird hard to guess name (yes, singular Dragonflight is weird), guessed things that 9.2.5 seems to foreshadow a month later, and it’s not something obvious like “lol dragon islands dragon covenants dragon race and dragon class” so it’s interesting.

The third point is why I believe it. MMOC really wants me to believe that we’ll get an expansion that pigeonholed into a single theme? When Shadowlands did literally everything to make “lol death world” varied? Unless they thematically change every dragonflight they are quite literally palette swaps that sometimes hang out in different themed areas.

C'mon you guys have to be smarter than this: You're giving credibility to a leak just because of the name AFTER it was confirmed? Don't you remember the week of fake shadowlands leaks after the name was confirmed? That Xenos map? The fake cgi stormwind docks cinematic? The microclasses leak is the same level as the "Sylvanas bombs stormwind & everyone dies, goes to the shadowlands" week you were all convinced was real because it was titled "Shadowlands leak"

[Niwes]

What else YouTubers are gonna do during these final weeks before release? It's just bread and butter for them. Them YouTubers are sometimes annoying with their clickbaity titles and thumbnails, but some websites still take the cake:

lol, so great.

the „much-anticipated mobile game“

1)
before 2022 noone
- has ever heart of it
- has never asked for it

2)
yeah, ppl love mobile games. especially the Blittard crowd! and Diablo Immortal was super welcome on Blizzcon. lol

[Kiivar86]

Much anticipated can also mean "a lot of people were expecting this thing to happen" too.

Which I think is the more likely definition at play here.

[Hypester]

C'mon you guys have to be smarter than this: You're giving credibility to a leak just because of the name AFTER it was confirmed? Don't you remember the week of fake shadowlands leaks after the name was confirmed? That Xenos map? The fake cgi stormwind docks cinematic? The microclasses leak is the same level as the "Sylvanas bombs stormwind & everyone dies, goes to the shadowlands" week you were all convinced was real because it was titled "Shadowlands leak"

There was only a single leak thread for Dragonflight (singular) and it was two months before the name confirmation.

It really is not a common name for the leak. Lots of people were expecting a large name.

[Vakir]

C'mon you guys have to be smarter than this: You're giving credibility to a leak just because of the name AFTER it was confirmed? Don't you remember the week of fake shadowlands leaks after the name was confirmed? That Xenos map? The fake cgi stormwind docks cinematic? The microclasses leak is the same level as the "Sylvanas bombs stormwind & everyone dies, goes to the shadowlands" week you were all convinced was real because it was titled "Shadowlands leak"

...the one in question is from early February. Well before the name leak. It helps to know what you're talking about.

For the record, though, I don't believe it either, but this is such a (usual) misfire of an argument.

Also the ghost harbor bullshit leak was way before we saw the Shadowlands logo, Bolvar CGI, Kyrian flier, etc. Everyone was already predicting the Shadowlands.

[Hypester]

Also the ghost harbor bullshit leak was way before we saw Shadowlands, Bolvar CGI, Kyrian flier, etc. Everyone was already predicting the Shadowlands.

I remember people shitting on the leaks because Blue Bolvar, Kyrians and Bastion “didn’t make sense” with what we knew about the Shadowlands (namely that it was black and white opposite world)

Hope we know better now!

[micwini]

I bet you a couple robux that Marl found something Dark Ranger related.

No. I think he's being silent because he found something void related...

[Hypester]

No. I think he's being silent because he found something void related...

A ren’dorei taking over SMC flag????

[Kiivar86]

Also the ghost harbor bullshit leak was way before we saw the Shadowlands logo, Bolvar CGI, Kyrian flier, etc. Everyone was already predicting the Shadowlands.

As I recall from the google doc with all the "leaks", there were like 11 "Shadowlands" ones prior to the reveal, so yeah, lot of them tried at it.

[Nymrohd]

lol, so great.

the „much-anticipated mobile game“

1)
before 2022 noone
- has ever heart of it
- has never asked for it

2)
yeah, ppl love mobile games. especially the Blittard crowd! and Diablo Immortal was super welcome on Blizzcon. lol

People have been asking for a mobile game to do pet battles for years now.

[Vakir]

I remember people shitting on the leaks because Blue Bolvar, Kyrians and Bastion “didn’t make sense” with what we knew about the Shadowlands (namely that it was black and white opposite world)

Hope we know better now!

Nobody is really omitting anything from the Dragonflight leak because of stuff like that, though.

Pretty much all we have is a name. The rest is proposed 90% of the time. I just think people shouldn't set such high expectations.

[Hypester]

Nobody is really omitting anything from the Dragonflight leak because of stuff like that, though.

Pretty much all we have is a name. The rest is proposed 90% of the time. I just think people shouldn't set such high expectations.

It’s not as pronounced as back then, no, but there has been some discourse about how the name doesn’t make sense because the leak doesn’t include much about Dragons.

Although it’s very similar to launch Legion.

[Ersula]

...the one in question is from early February. Well before the name leak. It helps to know what you're talking about.

You know Dragonflight is an established WoW term, right, far more than any previous expansion's title? How about the concept of a "lucky guess"?

[SniperCT]

Yeah, because removing leveling from an MMO sounds so amazing and game saving. I can't wait to not gain any levels going through the zones because it just feels so good when my character doesn't progress. And then you have four incomplete classes (that they would spin into "micro classes") and housing that's going to eat up all of Blizzard's resources so the rest of the expansion will be shit and devoid of content. Sounds great.



Could be. I hope that's it.

Neither GW2 or ESO raise the level cap with their expansions but players can still progress and it still feels pretty good. EQ alternates between level caps raises and non raises (the non raising expansion uses an alternate advancement system, which is what I want WoW to have, though closer to ESO's system, which works wonderfully)

Microclasses are stupid though.

[Vakir]

You know Dragonflight is an established WoW term, right, far more than any previous expansion's title? How about the concept of a "lucky guess"?

I am in agreement. But you said that it came from after the name leak when it didn't.

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C'mon you guys have to be smarter than this: You're giving credibility to a leak just because of the name AFTER it was confirmed?

Take the damn L. Literally for once. "Whoops, I messed up, my bad."

It’s not as pronounced as back then, no, but there has been some discourse about how the name doesn’t make sense because the leak doesn’t include much about Dragons.

Although it’s very similar to launch Legion.

If you think for two seconds about what goes into a new class, even a single one, this is far beyond Legion.

If I'm wrong it will be a pleasant surprise. Stuff sounds dope even if I'm sure it'll be a balancing nightmare, but isn't everything.

[Hypester]

“Dragonflight? That’s dumb... which one?!”

Its probably the hardest to guess name since Cata.

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If you think for two seconds about what goes into a new class, even a single one, this is far beyond Legion.

The lack of focus on the box/title theme at launch is what I am referring to with Legion and Dragonflight.

[Vakir]

The lack of focus on the box/title theme at launch is what I am referring to with Legion and Dragonflight.

Oh, that. My bad.

Yeah that's good with me though. The Legion was the most boring part of Legion. Hyperfocused expansions blow. SL practically may as well not happened. Some of the best stuff in Mists or Wrath were B and C stories wholly unrelated to the base theme.