Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[therumblings]

the elements have gone nuts again?

When did this happen?

[Fahrad Wagner]

When did this happen?

Island expeditions clues

[therumblings]

Island expeditions clues

I forgot all about them, wasn't one of them the first canonical mention of the Dragon Isles?

[Fahrad Wagner]

I forgot all about them, wasn't one of them the first canonical mention of the Dragon Isles?

Yes exactly, that, Drakkari trolls fleeing Northrend, Elementals gone mad, resurgence of some past "lesser" villains, etc.

[therumblings]

Yes exactly, that, Drakkari trolls fleeing Northrend, Elementals gone mad, resurgence of some past "lesser" villains, etc.

Speaking of that, I'm surprised Wrathion isn't on the art and Alexstrasza is, assuming it's real. The Island quest made it seem like Wrathion would be one of the main characters, which, he probably is going to be anyway, but then again Bolvar did pretty much nothing in Shadowlands so maybe Alex will have the same role.

[Fiercelord]

As much as I want Wrathion to be on the art, I guess they put Alexstrazsa for obvious marketing plans
Wrathion is one of my favorite WoW characters.

[Fahrad Wagner]

As much as I want Wrathion to be on the art, I guess they put Alexstrazsa for obvious marketing plans
Wrathion is one of my favorite WoW characters.

Same here! Although, Alex deserves the spotlight on a dragon expansion, so I'm fine with that

[therumblings]

It will be pretty interesting if DF ends up being an Alexstrasza expansion the same way Shadowlands was a Sylvanas expansion (minus the bad lore, of course ) I honestly wasn't expecting an Alex focus so it will be a nice surprise if it actually ends up being a good addition to the lore.

[Nachtigal]

It would be neat but I just don't see a world revamp happening until after we've dealt with the Void Lords. I think revamping Azeroth after the Cosmic Saga has been closed off will make the most sense as then we can return to more humble worldbuilding without worrying about the threat of a Purple Space God In Space™.

I'm hoping they just shut the game down after the void lords are dealt with. Shut it down to allow them to begin developing single player RPGs Elder Scrolls style. Get us to explore the new world/universe after defending Azeroth from the very last threat. Get some really nice graphics in there to revitalize the wonderous adventures we had when the game was fresh. Deal with relatively smaller, non-world destroying threats. Something similar to preventing Arthas from killing off the planet, killing him atop Icecrown Citadel. You know, still dire circumstances, but not Sargeras thrusting a sword into the planet. All with fancy shiny graphics available with today's tech.

[Yus atath]

I hope the devs come up with something else instead of another artifact power/covenant system. PLEASE come up with something new and FRESH. Same sh* since Legion.

Like c’mon Bliz step your game UP.

[Nyel]

It will be pretty interesting if DF ends up being an Alexstrasza expansion the same way Shadowlands was a Sylvanas expansion (minus the bad lore, of course ) I honestly wasn't expecting an Alex focus so it will be a nice surprise if it actually ends up being a good addition to the lore.

Honestly, we don't need yet another female poster girl.

BfA was all about Sylvanas, Azshara and Jaina. Shadowlands was all about Sylvanas. I think Wrathion - maybe in tandem with Alexstrasza - would work way better than just another female lead. Wrathion's human model is the sickest of all the Dragons anyway.

[therumblings]

Honestly, we don't need yet another female poster girl.

BfA was all about Sylvanas, Azshara and Jaina. Shadowlands was all about Sylvanas. I think Wrathion - maybe in tandem with Alexstrasza - would work way better than just another female lead. Wrathion's human model is the sickest of all the Dragons anyway.

Yeah his new model really suits his character, I hope we see a lot more with him than what we had before, which was more or less just a legendary quest giver.

[Mace]

I truly do not understand, why are people here ignoring the fact that the "Thalassian Conflict" plotline, so to say, is one of the longest and oldest in the game? Already in Classic we had High elves who remained loyal to the Alliance while the rest of the country was closed-off and left the Alliance at the end of the Second War. In TBC the Sin'dorei joined the Horde, In WotLk the Silver Covenant are introduced as the main militant faction of the Alliance elves, their rivalry continues in Cataclysm at the gates of Zul'aman, and culminates in bloodshed at the Purge of Dalaran. But two events have changed everything.

The Return of Alleria Windrunner has changed everything, the legendary hero of Quel'Thalas and eldest sibling of the Windrunners, always looked up by her countrymen, she has charisma, popularity, and strength that Vereesa could never hope to match, giving rekindled hope to the Alliance elves.

The Rise of the Ren'dorei, the "Children of the Void" led by Magister Umbric, who were cast out and exiled, but turned defeat into victory by finding a source of great power. For the first time, we have a faction of Thalassian elves in the Alliance who have grown so much in numbers and strength as to become playable and encompassing many Quel'dorei scholars and Sin'dorei travellers. The Silver Covenant could never match the Ren'dorei in numbers, resources, and strength, which is why they were never made playable.

Now the storyline started all the way back in Classic will soon reach the culmination as the Alliance will march on Quel'Thalas and reclaim it for the Alliance, as it should have been done long ago, when Lor'themar Theron plotted to rejoin the Alliance.

Because fan bias.. basically most of the horde fanbase care about blood elves, so like to pretend void elves and high elves don't exist and in their faction bias, miss their intrinsic value to their part of the story. THe alliance fanbase is much smaller and a bit all of the place, maybe void elves being too new for most ot he newr fans to think of them faction minded?

[Wangming]

It's weird how the leak from an actually official source, the Dragonflight name, inadvertently killed a lot of the discussion.

Since most of the other leaks had names, the name alone basically debunked 99% of the other leaks, however, the name alone also doesn't really give us anything new to talk about. If the name we got was something wild like "The Mongrel Horde" it might have led to a ton of new speculation, but we've already exhausted the dragon guesses.

Well WoW doesn't really use abstract titles. Catacylsm was perhaps the most ambiguos. Mists of Pandaria and Warlords of Draenor raise a lot of questions, but show an established setting clearly.

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Honestly, we don't need yet another female poster girl.

So what would you prefer? A male poster girl, or a female poster boy?

Jokes aside I have no problem with poster girls. Provided they change regularly. Sylvanas in the CGI trailer three times in a row was a bit too much.

[Raetary]

The poster child for Shadowlands was Bolvar, not Sylvanas.

[Wangming]

I hope the devs come up with something else instead of another artifact power/covenant system. PLEASE come up with something new and FRESH. Same sh* since Legion.

Like c’mon Bliz step your game UP.

We have been grinding AP since Legion. Artifact Power, Azeryte Power, Anima Power. Next is Alexstrasza Power.

Hey, what if instead of a new weapon or trinket or something we get a pet dragon? Like instead of a dragon race or class, the "borrowed power" is a dragon that we level up and train across the isles? You pick a flight and go all how to train your dragon on them. At various stages the dragon increases in size. And as a max level reward you get them as a mount. I would prefer no borrowed power personally, but this would fit the setting and I could see as a followup of Zereth Mortis.

[Cherry123]

This is why I disliked when I learned that Anduin was going to join Sylvanas in the Maw because this essentially leaves the precedent for her coming back to Azeroth with him sooner...

-Sylvanas' story is over, she won't return.
-Anduin didn't follow Sylvanas, the book talks about Nathanos. The quest "Stay and Listen" states that Anduin will not return to Stormwind. This does not mean he will rest in the shadowlands, this is not a place to rest, his arc has not begun yet, he was a foil for Sylvanas in the shadowlands.

[Wangming]

Anduin didn't follow Sylvanas, the book talks about Nathanos. The quest "Stay and Listen" states that Anduin will not return to Stormwind. This does not mean he will rest in the shadowlands, this is not a place to rest, his arc has not begun yet, he was a foil for Sylvanas in the shadowlands.

Hopefully he is going back to Pandaria.

[Sondrelk]

I hope the devs come up with something else instead of another artifact power/covenant system. PLEASE come up with something new and FRESH. Same sh* since Legion.

Like c’mon Bliz step your game UP.

How are the two in any way similar? Is it just because the acquisition of Azerite and Anima is similar? That makes as much sense as claiming PvP is the same as battle pets dungeons since both can be heavily influenced by raid drops.

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We have been grinding AP since Legion. Artifact Power, Azeryte Power, Anima Power. Next is Alexstrasza Power.

Hey, what if instead of a new weapon or trinket or something we get a pet dragon? Like instead of a dragon race or class, the "borrowed power" is a dragon that we level up and train across the isles? You pick a flight and go all how to train your dragon on them. At various stages the dragon increases in size. And as a max level reward you get them as a mount. I would prefer no borrowed power personally, but this would fit the setting and I could see as a followup of Zereth Mortis.

I have yet to hear why Artifact power and Azerite are similar to Anima though.
Is it really just that they drop from similar sources that makes players dislike it?

[ercarp]

"they never listen" is just brainless take

By all means continue defending the decisions of this multi-billion dollar company because the last two expansions have been so fucking great and amazing and totally didn't make almost everyone unsubscribe. You do you lmao.