Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Khaza-R]

Galakrond is the most likely imo, but I wonder if he's thematically a bit too closely tied to Death, given that we're just wrapping up an expansion with the same theme.

Doesn't Galakrond change based on whatever he consumes? Like if he ate naaru wouldn't he become a light dragon?

[Grimbold21]

Man we came a long way from last month, here's hoping to hitting at least 2100 before the announcement, maybe 2500 if we're lucky Nothing can stop us with the thread energy!

That's a lot of useless back and forth.

[micwini]

That's a lot of useless back and forth.

Oh it's not that hard. You just have to rally a few people. Let's summon them together:
- Tinkers, mechs, gnomes, goblins, undermine
- Void, Old Gods, N'zoth, Ren'dorei.

[Raetary]

Doesn't Galakrond change based on whatever he consumes? Like if he ate naaru wouldn't he become a light dragon?

That's a hearthstone mechanic, not anything actually established.

[Veluren]

Doesn't Galakrond change based on whatever he consumes? Like if he ate naaru wouldn't he become a light dragon?

That's a Hearthstone thing, which the mainline WoW devs try to keep a step separated from Hearthstone besides minor cameos (for better or for worse because they've had some fun ideas and given us some unique art that'd be sick in WoW like the female Dragonkin, ethereals and redone Wolvar)

[Glorious Leader]

Some of the content was hard. I hold a grudge for this. This is officially a personal insult to me and they don't value me as a customer because they sell something I don't like. Sure, the supermarket may sell apples and I want apples, but they also sell oranges and I hate oranges. I could just not buy the oranges, but I will instead blame the orange-buyers and the selling of oranges for why people have stopped coming to the store. It is the fault of oranges. If they sell oranges, I cannot buy apples. They need to stop selling oranges NOW.

And in fact they should continue the shop at that super market to subsidize the apples i like.

[LalaGamer]

Doesn't Galakrond change based on whatever he consumes? Like if he ate naaru wouldn't he become a light dragon?

Any source for that or picture ??

[Grimbold21]

Oh it's not that hard. You just have to rally a few people. Let's summon them together:
- Tinkers, mechs, gnomes, goblins, undermine
- Void, Old Gods, N'zoth, Ren'dorei.

As I said, useless.

[draugril]

Chromatus, ehh, doubt it. I have a feeling Blizzard doesn't even remember he exists.

Murozond was already dealt with so him appearing now makes no sense.

Galakrond is the most likely imo, but I wonder if he's thematically a bit too closely tied to Death, given that we're just wrapping up an expansion with the same theme.

Alternatively, we have a completely new and original dragon - the Prime Aspect - who has been leading the dragonflights from the shadows all these years but has actually been orchestrating their downfall for no discernible reason. Now that Wrathion is trying to undo that whole fertility thing, she reveals herself and her involvement in everything from the empowerment of the Aspects to the creation of the Dragon Soul to Alexstrasza’s captivity to the corruption of Neltharion!

The Prime Aspect’s name?

Elunaria.

[huth]

That's some logic, though. Galakrond is super dead and was also definitely "dealt with", so why he is the likeliest of the three?

He's also wrong on Murozond. Yes, we killed him... so Nozdormu now has to fall or we'll have a paradox. He actually needs to appear, storywise.

[draugril]

That's some logic, though. Galakrond is super dead and was also definitely "dealt with", so why he is the likeliest of the three?

Because Shadowlands is tied to death, we’ve seen plots to resurrect him before, and that culminating seems like an easy segue into dragon lore.

But that also presumes that the writers want a logical segue, when precedent says they believe logical progression of a narrative is a failing.

[draugril]

But the next expansion isn't Shadowlands.

Exactly. It’s a segue out of death and into dragons. Narrative connective tissue. That thing that good storytellers use when telling ongoing long form narratives.

[Nymrohd]

He's also wrong on Murozond. Yes, we killed him... so Nozdormu now has to fall or we'll have a paradox. He actually needs to appear, storywise.

Can you really kill a four-dimensional entity?

[boyzma]

And here comes 2000

[Raetary]

Can you really kill a four-dimensional entity?

You trap it in a time loop and make your past self kill it.

[Revamp Man]

I would not put my money on Murozond, they've already shown that they are incapable of doing time travel shit and now that they have to clean up their story more than ever, my money is on Chromatus

We also just dealt with a Death expansion so I highly doubt we'll see another undead final boss, even though it would be pretty fucking dope to fight Galakrond

I mean galakrond is probably a world boss at least because he is kinda the cause of the creation of the aspects

Also apparently Elune has a part in creating aspects because it requires the two moons to cross paths so I’m wondering if we might get an actual aspect of death via galakrond

[Nymrohd]

My main issue with Galakrond and Chromatus remains that Blizzard sucks at making huge raid bosses feel fun. Really, very few games ever manage that. Maybe Shadow of the Collosus and Monster Hunter.

[Niwes]

While I agree that overall the contribution of leveling to endgame is miniscule if you look at the expansion as a whole, there is ceraintly a not insignificant portion of the playerbase that very much cares about it and bases a $40-$70 purchase on it. A massive amount of resources are also used for the leveling content each expansion, even though they have become "better" at reusing parts of it for endgame systems (dungeons, quests becoming wold quests, reoptainable treasures etc.).

Even then, there are massive parts, especially when it comes to story and discovery, that are burned through just to get to endgame. So a discussion is warranted if the current implementation is actually a good use of those afore mentioned resources, especially from a developer's point of view, which in turn is what we use to extrapolate what Blizzard might do in the future and estimate the veracity of "leaks".

yep, agree. especially CAUSE of what i said, Blizz should not even invest that much into it at all, in the first place. its a bad trade. lots of investment vs 10 hours of playtime. maybe what i said should not be directed to the playerbase or the post(s) i quoted, maybe it should be directed to Blizz, because they do a bad „time invest vs gain“ trade. lets say the design of leveling costs a full .1 or .2 patch. if no leveling exists and instead we get the content of a full .1 patch in endgame, it’s a worth tradeoff.

so yes, you are right. i just saw the uselessness of discussing 10hours more or less in a xpac. while i should saw the uselessness of investing much effort into 10 hours of a xpac. so, from that PoV now, i say ppl going like „remove leveling and do better endgame content“ are 100% correct imo. invest all that effort in a longterm „leveling inside endgame“ or ANY longliving endgame content, instead of burning it in the first 10 hours of a xpac, noone has much gain of, longterm, is a way better use of that investment.

thx for adjusting my PoV.

[Revamp Man]

You trap it in a time loop and make your past self kill it.

And the Titans created the loop

Moruzond is definitely coming because Nozdormu is absent since Cata with Chromie taking up the role of representing the bronze

[TheAceofHearth]

2000 page when?