1. #38861
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Everyone assumes Galakrond would be a villain, but what if we bring him back but his corruption doesn't?
    He'd be his benevolent self.
    Oh what if Galakrond IS the Dragon Isles.

  2. #38862
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    You trap it in a time loop and make your past self kill it.
    how to set the trap in an environment, you are part of ?

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    I never understand where this "but Murozond HAS to come back!" thing is coming from.

    We killed him, and even then, the event that made Nozdormu turn into him never occurred in our universe.

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  6. #38866
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwes View Post
    how to set the trap in an environment, you are part of ?
    I'm assuming its a reference to some time traveling fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I never understand where this "but Murozond HAS to come back!" thing is coming from.

    We killed him, and even then, the event that made Nozdormu turn into him never occurred in our universe.
    Or it will occur during the xpac. Maybe it's Soridormi dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I never understand where this "but Murozond HAS to come back!" thing is coming from.

    We killed him, and even then, the event that made Nozdormu turn into him never occurred in our universe.
    I think it was a comment made by Nozdormu that he will always turn into Murozond at some point, it was his destiny basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwes View Post
    how to set the trap in an environment, you are part of ?
    He'd be stuck in the time loop, not us.


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  9. #38869
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I'm assuming its a reference to some time traveling fiction.

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    Or it will occur during the xpac. Maybe it's Soridormi dying.
    Nozdormu turned Murozond because the Titans showed him his death which freaked him out, and then the Old Gods (probably N'zoth) manipulated him into turning. That Murozond then started fucking with the timeways.

    Our Nozdormu will not turn because the main reason (i.e. the Old Gods) are dead, and the other Murozond we killed.


    Honestly, the entire Nozdormu plotline is stupid as fuck, and I hope they do not explore it. It's just a minefield of terrible writing and cliches.

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    Can't wait to play my Dragon Knight tank!

  11. #38871
    'At last it has come to pass. The moment of my demise. The loop is closed. My future self will cause no more harm. Still, in time, I will... fall to madness. And you, heroes... will vanquish me.'

    Quoting Nozdormu

    EDIT: It is also stated in Chronicles 3 that his fate is inescapable, even if the Old Gods are dead.
    Last edited by Fartlas; 2022-04-10 at 02:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Nozdormu turned Murozond because the Titans showed him his death which freaked him out, and then the Old Gods (probably N'zoth) manipulated him into turning. That Murozond then started fucking with the timeways.

    Our Nozdormu will not turn because the main reason (i.e. the Old Gods) are dead, and the other Murozond we killed.


    Honestly, the entire Nozdormu plotline is stupid as fuck, and I hope they do not explore it. It's just a minefield of terrible writing and cliches.
    There is no "other" Nozdormu. That was part of Aman'thul's blessing.

  13. #38873
    For all the Dr Who nerds

    Moruzond is River Song killing the doctor
    The day was always coming
    It’s inevitable
    There’s always the spaceman in the lake
    It’s a fixed point in time

    Details might change but the result will always be Moruzond
    It always ends with us killing moruzond
    It always starts with Nozdormu interfering with his death

    Doesn’t matter if it’s him stopping a falling boulder or if it’s him not triggering an explosion

    It will happen and the existence of the infinite flight in our current time shows it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Nozdormu turned Murozond because the Titans showed him his death which freaked him out, and then the Old Gods (probably N'zoth) manipulated him into turning. That Murozond then started fucking with the timeways.

    Our Nozdormu will not turn because the main reason (i.e. the Old Gods) are dead, and the other Murozond we killed.


    Honestly, the entire Nozdormu plotline is stupid as fuck, and I hope they do not explore it. It's just a minefield of terrible writing and cliches.
    We haven’t seen nozdormu since MoP?

    How do you know he hasn’t already turned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Nozdormu turned Murozond because the Titans showed him his death which freaked him out, and then the Old Gods (probably N'zoth) manipulated him into turning. That Murozond then started fucking with the timeways.

    Our Nozdormu will not turn because the main reason (i.e. the Old Gods) are dead, and the other Murozond we killed.
    The Void is still very much a threat and Xal'atath is still around.


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  15. #38875
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    The Void is still very much a threat and Xal'atath is still around.
    Maybe Xal's Old God body is somewhere and she can eventually rez.

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    Except the whole Murozond plotline doesnt really make sense unless it is Nzoth.

  17. #38877
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Maybe Xal's Old God body is somewhere and she can eventually rez.
    Maybe her body is the one in the dragon isles concept art

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fartlas View Post
    I think it was a comment made by Nozdormu that he will always turn into Murozond at some point, it was his destiny basically.
    Which is boring. Telegraphing such thing 6 expansions in advance and then following through and talking about it's "inevitability" is boring. Would appreciate if he somehow managed to change his destiny, in w/e way. This entire ancient Greece concept of how you can't fight your destiny is crap, and I am fairly sure we did overcome our fate few times already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    The Void is still very much a threat and Xal'atath is still around.
    Yo, careful! Else you will summon Voidboi back to this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    This entire ancient Greec concept of how you can;t fight your destiny is crap
    It works--it's a prime source of interpersonal drama, after all--but the writers have to decide how time travel works in their setting and actually stick to it.
    It became clear that it wasn’t realistic to try to get the audience back to being more hardcore, as it had been in the past. -- Tom Chilton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blayze View Post
    It works--it's a prime source of interpersonal drama, after all--but the writers have to decide how time travel works in their setting and actually stick to it.
    Of course it works, but it's still boring. Someone learns his fate, struggles to change it but we all know that in the end he will fail.
    Sometimes, the light of the moon is a key to other spaces. I've found a place where, for a night or two, the streets curve in unfamiliar ways. If I walk here, I might find insight, or I might be touched by madness.

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