1. #38881
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Do people hate Chromie now?

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    Because they'd never add a temporal paradox as an allied race, right?
    Nothing in particular against the character itself, they're pretty one note with nothing extraordinary or noteworthy about them. They're pretty neutral in terms of impact, and characterisation.

    My issue is with the fascination with the character that a portion of the player base seem to have with Chromie. It comes across as borderline simping at times, and I find that pretty unsettling when the character has both the appearance and the personality of a child.

    I'd rather have Nozdormu and his son as the main prominent Bronze Dragonflight characters next expansion. Soridormi too, give some of the more neglected characters the spotlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    One can only hope that Chromie won't be a prominent character in Dragonflight.
    She's the ambassador of the Bronze Dragonflight.
    If the bronze are involved, she will show up.

    Besides, what's the issue?
    Chromie is fun and likable.

    Is it because she's a gnome? Are people really still stuck on the hating gnomes thing?



  3. #38883
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    She's the ambassador of the Bronze Dragonflight.
    If the bronze are involved, she will show up.

    Besides, what's the issue?
    Chromie is fun and likable.

    Is it because she's a gnome? Are people really still stuck on the hating gnomes thing?
    Nothing wrong with Chromie being a Gnome. Some Gnome's are fun characters, like Mekkatorque etc. Kelsey is pretty cool too.

    I just think there's a fascination with Chromie as a character, that comes across on the forums, reddit, in game etc as a bit dodgy is all.

    Also, being the ambassador for that flight doesn't mean they must make an appearance. We never saw Ignatius(Green Dragonflight ambassador) and some of the other amabassadors for the their respective flights since they were present at Wyrmrest in Wrath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    She's the ambassador of the Bronze Dragonflight.
    If the bronze are involved, she will show up.

    Besides, what's the issue?
    Chromie is fun and likable.

    Is it because she's a gnome? Are people really still stuck on the hating gnomes thing?
    Chromie is like the one gnome I *don't* want to punt on sight.

  5. #38885
    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    While I share your disdain for Chromie as a character, you can bet on her showing up in a prominent role in a dragon related expansion. And I'm not convinced she is a pure, benevolent character.
    Sadly, I too see her showing up. I wouldn't say I'm particularly disdainful of the character, just moreso find a certain portion of the fanbases fascination with the character as a bit suspect.

    Hard disagree on her not being a benevolent character though. She's sort of rammed down our throat compared to other Dragon characters, and she's tied to the revamped levelling - so I don't see her being hit with the villain bat.

  6. #38886
    Chromie will 100% be relevant if the story Deaths of Chromie scenario is at all relevant. Ion said in an interview with Jesse Cox/Wowcrendor way back when it came out that it was a hint for a future expac.

    I personally dislike gnomes (or uh, characters that have a gnome as their preferred humanoid form) and haven't seen any of this weird Chromie fanbase but maybe I don't go to the right corners of the internet

  7. #38887
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilithvia View Post
    Chromie is like the one gnome I *don't* want to punt on sight.
    It's because she is not a gnome!

  8. #38888
    Quote Originally Posted by TomatoBisque View Post
    Chromie will 100% be relevant if the story Deaths of Chromie scenario is at all relevant. Ion said in an interview with Jesse Cox/Wowcrendor way back when it came out that it was a hint for a future expac.

    I personally dislike gnomes (or uh, characters that have a gnome as their preferred humanoid form) and haven't seen any of this weird Chromie fanbase but maybe I don't go to the right corners of the internet
    Just recently there was a post on the WoW subreddit about simping for Alextrasza and Tyrande's delts. One of the top voted comments was preferring to simp for Chromie instead. Unfortunately, they exist.

  9. #38889
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Is it because she's a gnome? Are people really still stuck on the hating gnomes thing?
    I love how we try to pretend that we don't know why people hate Chromie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I love how we try to pretend that we don't know why people hate Chromie
    Exactly. I've had my day ruined just reading through the blatant *reason* plastered all over comment sections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    Just recently there was a post on the WoW subreddit about simping for Alextrasza and Tyrande's delts. One of the top voted comments was preferring to simp for Chromie instead. Unfortunately, they exist.
    yikes

    another reason to avoid that place like the plague

    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I love how we try to pretend that we don't know why people hate Chromie
    same as with pelagos (although pelagos wasn't a flawless character and suffered from screentime issues having to do with how the covenant stories worked)

  12. #38892
    Chromie is cool. Just wish they gave Anachronos, the heir of Nozdormu, actual spotlight time too. Was weird he wasn't the one who showed up during BfA when Ysera's heir Merithra also showed up and instead Chromie was the representative.

  13. #38893
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I love how we try to pretend that we don't know why people hate Chromie
    I mean, what's the reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    I mean, what's the reason?
    Obnoxiously high-pitched voice and overly cutsey personality (which is more a symptom of having a gnome form.) Are my guesses.
    Honorary member of the Baine Fanclub, the only member really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therougetitan View Post
    Chromie is cool. Just wish they gave Anachronos, the heir of Nozdormu, actual spotlight time too. Was weird he wasn't the one who showed up during BfA when Ysera's heir Merithra also showed up and instead Chromie was the representative.
    Most people don't even remember who Anachronos is unless they are a lore buff like most of the folks in this thread

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    It's me. I'm the resident Chromie simp.

    If the next expansion is about dragons, it's pretty obvious that she's going to feature as a major character for at least a large chunk of the questing experience. And I'm all for it. I'd love to see the ramifications of the Deaths of Chromie come into play and more story on her in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharby View Post
    Obnoxiously high-pitched voice and overly cutsey personality (which is more a symptom of having a gnome form.) Are my guesses.
    No, something we should probably be moving away from discussing so mods don't pop in and start laying down thread warnings. Like, we should move away from discussing this thing *right now*

    new topic: has anyone ever heard the tragedy of leeroy jenkins the wise

  18. #38898
    I'm genuinely confused as to what's going on.

    Edit- if someone could PM me, as whatever it is seems to not be a subject for the thread.
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  19. #38899
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Indeed, the Horde fanbase, and in particular the Blood elf fanbase, hate Alleria Windrunner because she chose Family over Country and because she endangered the Sunwell (while ignoring how, for example, Warchief Sylvanas had blackmailed the Blood elves during the campaign in Northrend and completely ignored their pleas).
    Yes, I understand it partly, taking the view of the side you support, but I was surprised how many people in blaming Alleria for endangering the Sunwell, fail to recognise that she saves it too. What if Alleria hadn't been there? The encounter shows us the Ethereals didn't just appear in the void zone of the area when she was there, they'd been planning it for a while, , while it is possible her presence put it at risk, it is also possible that her presence pre-empted an early attack, they seemed to be surprised, then took advantage of the opening her presence gave - in other words, another way of looking at it is that Alleria's presence exposed their plans early, giving the elves valuable time they would not have had if the ethereals had launched their attack in surprise, and done it without Alleria and her special expertise being there.

    It is is bias that blinds the horde playerbase, who are the majority from seeing the other possibilities. Blizzard tends to write these things with two perspectives in mind. Sometimes the playerbase can forget to see what they are shown because one point of view is spoken out loud and all attention switches to it and failure to notice what else is going on.

    Alleria doesn't even bother to argue, to explain what she had actually done nor toot her horn, in this case she recognises her kin aren't willing to listen to anything she says and leaves.

    We are left to view the situation from several angles, not just the one of the blood elves.





    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    I think the problem with the Void elves is that they might be too "complex" of a race.

    Think about it, humans, dwarves, night elves, gnomes, they are all pretty generic and bland fantasy stereotypical races.

    But Void elves? They are unprecedented, no other franchise has this kind of race. And so, as with all unprecedented things, it might be that most people simply do not understand the complexity of the Void elves, who are NOT just "Dark elves", since they are not evil and sadistic.

    It might be that they are too "ambitious" conceptually, so to say, but I am sure that once they get the spotlight, people will finally realize what gem of a race they have been ignoring for years.

    People, after all, gravitate towards what they understand; but if something is too complex or "elusive", how can you expect people to care? That's fine though, as I said the Ren'dorei will play a major role in 10.0 so people will be made to care.
    It is a valid point, and it is why the void elves need more exposure and more time on them. If you are keen enough, you would probably have clicked on Magister Umbric during BFA and got a good idea of what character of the void elves were, you'd have probably read Alleria's story and paid close attention to actually grasp what blizzard are trying to do there with this group and what it means to resist the whispers.

    However this is only a few people, most people won't. you have to bring those things up over and over again, in scenes that every body partakes in, like the Suramar questline, where tyour faced with the void elf character, in the face of the darkness of the void to get how you can get what they do ,and be who they are in the face of such a force.

    It also forces you the developer to expand people's understanding of the light and void, giving an approach to the void that was not seen previously. Previously you saw the void only through religious fanatics, i.e. cultists, swept up in worship of an evil force, heart and soul given to it. So you thought that was all there was tot he void. Then entre the void elves and you see the void from a sceientific/pragrammatic magical force perspective - treated in a similar way to how the elves treat the arcane - understanding it's focus, it's influence it's essence and how these guys handle it that make them able to cope and not are not religious zealots over it - not because they can't be religious or zealous, but because they are committed to saving their world, and this is their driving force, kinda like what enabled the DHs to withstand the corruptive influences of fel was their desire to protect their world by destroying the Legion with their own power. Except the void elves don't come by this through vengeance and the pain of those elves who saw their empire destroyed .. they have their convictions and motivations.

    however if most people don't pay extra close attention or only came across the info once and only briefly in a cameo quest... that's nothing like a 2 patch campaign like Suramar to get you into the nitty gritty, and even that wasn't enough for people to grasp what the Nightborne really were from the discussions I had with some.

  20. #38900
    New aspects will be:

    Baine - Black Aspect
    Jaina - Blue Aspect
    Sylvanas - Red Aspect
    Tyrande - Green Aspect
    Chromie - Bronze Aspect

    Wrathion is the one that will be impaled on Wyrmrest temple in the true End Times.

    Book it.

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