Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Raetary]

Watch as Wow has its own TVA to stop us changing the time line!

That's literally what the Bronze Dragonflight is.

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the purple maw?

When does the Maw become purple?

[huth]

There's Agthia's Repose in Bastion, still dotted by ruins from a Void invasion, and while you do mention Z'raali, there is the whole Ember Ward.

There may be others I'm not recalling but I feel that's it. Definitely not major enough (though the Ember Ward stuff is pretty big) but more than you say too.

What do you think i meant by "old battles"? They're not particularly noteworthy, either. We know the cosmic forces are in conflict, and the Shadowlands have an entire realm dedicated to running a standing army.

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Jesus, no one is gonna drop expansion name or exact theme in side quest in Revendreth for you.

Sure, but these aren't really a bigger deal than the Void presence in Mac'aree. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

[Lady Atia]

There's Agthia's Repose in Bastion, still dotted by ruins from a Void invasion, and while you do mention Z'raali, there is the whole Ember Ward.

There may be others I'm not recalling but I feel that's it. Definitely not major enough (though the Ember Ward stuff is pretty big) but more than you say too.

Maldraxxus also had a Legion invasion according to 9.1.

[TheFirstOnes]

Dragons would work perfectly with a time based theme imo. Gotta craft that story to drag Yrel into our timeline for Light/Void theme first.

We tried time travel...

Time travel can be a basis of Light and Shadow. Just have the Dragon Isles and the first raid specifically be focused on the Chromatic and Infinite flights, with the final boss being the Tiamat Chromatus.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

We tried time travel...

Time travel can be a basis of Light and Shadow. Just have the Dragon Isles and the first raid specifically be focused on the Chromatic and Infinite flights, with the final boss being the Tiamat Chromatus.

Folks gotta stop trying to ham-fist everything into Light/Shadow. Seriously.

A Light/Shadow expansion is about Light/Shadow. It's not about Time Travel, it's not about the Faction War (though it probably will be and that's on Blizz's bad writers), it's not about the First Ones or whatever WoWHead datamined that managed to get Azeroth trending on twitter from the outrage.

[Teriz]

The main villain of 10.0:



You heard it here first.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

We tried time travel...

Time travel can be a basis of Light and Shadow. Just have the Dragon Isles and the first raid specifically be focused on the Chromatic and Infinite flights, with the final boss being the Tiamat Chromatus.

WoD wasn't Time travel based, it was just used as a plot device and then dropped immediately. In early dev, there was probably more but what we got was like little to no time travel.

[Lady Atia]

WoD wasn't Time travel based, it was just used as a plot device and then dropped immediately. In early dev, there was probably more but what we got was like little to no time travel.

Yeah - WoD actually ended up as Multiverse Story. Quite similiar to the Loki series.

[therumblings]

WoD wasn't Time travel based

Just like Legion wasn't legion invasion based and BFA wasn't faction war based.

[TheFirstOnes]

WoD wasn't Time travel based, it was just used as a plot device and then dropped immediately. In early dev, there was probably more but what we got was like little to no time travel.

It was. Time Travel was the basis of how we did shit. And even then, you can do Time Travel and not force it as a main expansion plot. The Caverns of Time are a PERFECT example of that.

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Folks gotta stop trying to ham-fist everything into Light/Shadow. Seriously.

A Light/Shadow expansion is about Light/Shadow. It's not about Time Travel, it's not about the Faction War (though it probably will be and that's on Blizz's bad writers), it's not about the First Ones or whatever WoWHead datamined that managed to get Azeroth trending on twitter from the outrage.

I want you to read up on the Infinite Flight real quick. You'll soon learn just how wrong you are. https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Infinite_dragonflight

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Maldraxxus also had a Legion invasion according to 9.1.

Yes, but also need to realize just how massive the Light and Shadow shit is. From Il'gynoth's whispers, to N'Zoth's and Alleria's void whispers on Death being the main enemy to the Void, to Lothraxion and the current Dreadlord plot in SL (Which is also heavily linked with the Light), to Anduin, etc, Light and Shadow have a MASSIVE forefront on this expansion.

Life and Death just happen to be the priority focus of it. But reminder that every expansion is heavily linked with one another. Much of Legion was setting up N'Zoth and Azshara (As well as the faction shit with Genn and Sylvanas), much of BFA was focused on Sylvanas and her shit, and much of SL is focused on Light and Shadow connections. It's possible the Dragon Isles and the Infinite Flight could be but a plotpoint of the expansion, much like how the Nightmare was with Legion.

You can literally make the first raid based around the Infinite Flight, the Chromatic Flight, etc with Chromatus as the last boss of that raid.

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I would NEVER imagine Blizzard passing up the opportunity of giving us a fucking TIAMAT raid boss. Never. And they fucked up WoD...

That's how much I think this boss needs to happen.

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That's literally what the Bronze Dragonflight is.

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When does the Maw become purple?

There is a datamined Maw Model where it looks Red and Purple. It's nothing crazy or anything like that. Lots of Sylvanas' Mawsworn are purple.

[Raetary]

WoD wasn't Time travel based

Time travel was the foundation of the expansion.

[BaumanKing]

Just like Legion wasn't legion invasion based and BFA wasn't faction war based.

Bad examples. WoD was based around the savage world and the Iron Horde. Aside from Kairoz and a little bit of Chromie, the bronze dragonflight was not involved in the main plot at all. Same with the infinite dragonflight. Time travel stuff in WoD was just a Mcgaffin to take us to another planet and that's it. Judging by your logic, BfA should be Void based.

[huth]

Just like Legion wasn't legion invasion based and BFA wasn't faction war based.

It was. Time Travel was the basis of how we did shit. And even then, you can do Time Travel and not force it as a main expansion plot. The Caverns of Time are a PERFECT example of that.

Time travel was the foundation of the expansion.

No, it wasn't. You could have seamlessly replaced it with Kairoz creating a replica of pre-shattering Draenor and the story would have been completely unaffected. Time travel was irrelevant to the story. We never even traveled through time, we just hijacked a portal through an existing dimensional path.

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Bad examples. WoD was based around the savage world and the Iron Horde. Aside from Kairoz and a little bit of Chromie, the bronze dragonflight was not involved in the main plot at all. Same with the infinite dragonflight. Time travel stuff in WoD was just a Mcgaffin to take us to another planet and that's it. Judging by your logic, BfA should be Void based.

It was even less than that. Just a minor plot device that had no relevance beyond the setup. It's like saying Cabin in the Woods is car based.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Bad examples. WoD was based around the savage world and the Iron Horde. Aside from Kairoz and a little bit of Chromie, the bronze dragonflight was not involved in the main plot at all. Same with the infinite dragonflight. Time travel stuff in WoD was just a Mcgaffin to take us to another planet and that's it. Judging by your logic, BfA should be Void based.

Indeed. That's the distinction, I say -- it's a plot device, not the actual plot proper. An actual expansion focused of that theme would instead focus on it consistently throughout, serving not as a plot device to reach the story, but as a driving force all throughout.

[Lady Atia]

Bad examples. WoD was based around the savage world and the Iron Horde. Aside from Kairoz and a little bit of Chromie, the bronze dragonflight was not involved in the main plot at all. Same with the infinite dragonflight. Time travel stuff in WoD was just a Mcgaffin to take us to another planet and that's it. Judging by your logic, BfA should be Void based.

But we didn't really time travel. That's the whole change they did during the Alpha. We actually travelled to an alternative universe Draenor that was like 30 years in the past of our current timeline. Our actions didn't change anything for our past, unlike for example the Caverns of Time, which made sure to tell us that the bronze dragons had to mind-wipe all witnesses after our actions there.

[Black Rider]

https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1408847661440983040
Cosmic expansion?

[Tiradon]

Well these interviews were.. lame? I mean these days I don't even read the interviews anymore and just read the bullet points.. Usually only Preach and Bel ask some decent questions.

Anyway I'm worried about the game in the long run, Shadowlands is going in a sort of BFA way. My raiders are worried about having to re craft their legendaries when they didn't knew at the time of crafting that these changes would be so impactful.

It's time for Blizzard to come down to Earth and really discuss what's happening.

[hipolnalrt]

I'm sticking with my theory of a time-based theme for next expansion based on the interviews. From the interview:

A note in Tazavesh mentions a possible seventh cosmic force. Time will tell whether the scribe has lost their mind. or if it leads to something more substaintial!

[Edward Wu]

https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1408847661440983040
Cosmic expansion?

You gotta love those replies all shitting on retail WoW's awful story. This might be the only place in existence that still gets excited for this shlock.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

You gotta love those replies all shitting on retail WoW's awful story. This might be the only place in existence that still gets excited for this shlock.

Compare that to the excellent story of TBC. Not to mention, they need to bring it back to Azeroth's traditional Gothic Fantasy routes, not like the Science Fiction-influenced High Fantasy it is now. I am glad that TBC's story was in such an excellent place and it really allowed us to see the full, traditional fantasy of Azeroth in a classically fantastical, yet down-to-earth, setting, and where the old characters were so deeply-respected.