Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Sondrelk]

I thought it would be cool if the Covenant System continued over multiple expansions: The covenent symbol could fit right next to your faction symbol on the character selection screen. But by 9.1.5 it was clear its really is just a borrowed power system. I'd be fine if the Dragonflights are our covenants in 10.0 but don't make their abilities be class specific so balancing them doesn't take up the majority of development time.

Honestly I kinda wish Blizzard had gone through with their initial idea for Covenants where there would be a hard line on them only being available in the Shadowlands. You go back to Azeroth and the ability is gone, go to an Arena and the ability is gone.
What I think this would communicate is that the ability would not funcitonally change in the next expansion, it would just stop being relevant as we left the Shadowlands. As it stands Blizzard will probably go back to that decision for when 10.0 releases, but it's definitely going to feel less natural than it otherwise might have.

[huth]

Honestly I kinda wish Blizzard had gone through with their initial idea for Covenants where there would be a hard line on them only being available in the Shadowlands. You go back to Azeroth and the ability is gone, go to an Arena and the ability is gone.
What I think this would communicate is that the ability would not funcitonally change in the next expansion, it would just stop being relevant as we left the Shadowlands. As it stands Blizzard will probably go back to that decision for when 10.0 releases, but it's definitely going to feel less natural than it otherwise might have.

I'd be interested in seeing if they're going to explain why the Heart no longer works, seeing as how we'll likely return to Azeroth.

[Varolyn]

I'd be interested in seeing if they're going to explain why the Heart no longer works, seeing as how we'll likely return to Azeroth.

They'll just say that we used up the Heart's energy to Kill N'zoth.

[huth]

They'll just say that we used up the Heart's energy to Kill N'zoth.

That would mean we killed Azeroth. Doesn't work.

[Raetary]

I'd be interested in seeing if they're going to explain why the Heart no longer works, seeing as how we'll likely return to Azeroth.

It never stopped working.
We just don't use it because it doesn't grant its powers while away from Azeroth.

[Vakir]

It never stopped working.
We just don't use it because it doesn't grant its powers while away from Azeroth.

"Champion! The Heart doesn't work on the Dragon Isles because they're too high into the atmosphere!

...and also it doesn't work in Lordaeron/Quel'thalas/Undermine/etc. because mumbles indistinctly under breath."

There, done.

[Raetary]

Speaking of, it's funny how nobody considered the idea of the return of the heart.

[Soulwind]

"Champion! The Heart doesn't work on the Dragon Isles because they're too high into the atmosphere!

...and also it doesn't work in Lordaeron/Quel'thalas/Undermine/etc. because mumbles indistinctly under breath."

There, done.

There could be a quest about us using it to undo some of the damage that was done by the Forge of Souls, similar to how we drained Artifact Weapons in Silithus.

[huth]

It never stopped working.
We just don't use it because it doesn't grant its powers while away from Azeroth.

Which is why an explanation would be needed in the first place.

[Raetary]

Which is why an explanation would be needed in the first place.

That IS the explanation, it doesn't grant us its powers while in the Shadowlands because its ties to Azeroth.
It works like it always does on Azeroth, both mechanically and narratively.

[Vakir]

There could be a quest about us using it to undo some of the damage that was done by the Forge of Souls, similar to how we drained Artifact Weapons in Silithus.

That would be hilarious and is expected.

That IS the explanation, it doesn't grant us its powers while in the Shadowlands.
It works like it always does on Azeroth, both mechanically and narratively.

I think they mean for DF. I doubt they'll bring it back.

[plz delete account]

What everyone thinks Dragonflight will be:
Dragons, and void, and light, and world revamp and allied races and no factions and-


What it will actually be

[ro9ue]

That would mean we killed Azeroth. Doesn't work.

Maybe Azeroth is supremely wounded so the heart is weakened now.

[Therougetitan]

I hope they announce the time of the announcement soon it is a bit over a week away.

I also hope they stream it on twitch or youtube instead of dropping it on youtube and having to spam refresh at the hour if you were eager to see it. (referring to 9.2 announcement)

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

What everyone thinks Dragonflight will be:
Dragons, and void, and light, and world revamp and allied races and no factions and-


What it will actually be

The Azshara log in screen joke was done a few pages ago. No need to repeat.

[plz delete account]

The Azshara log in screen joke was done a few pages ago. No need to repeat.

legend says that millenia from now the Azshara login screen will be worshipped, but nobody will know why...

[deviantcultist]

That is what im saying. Light is not good or bad, is just "lawful", a lawful force can be good, neutral or evil depending on many factors(people using it, quantity, how is used...).

And even as lawful good, it can still do evil things/commit atrocities, if they think, in their conception, is good. Thats why i think an expansion with Light as villain is totally ok.

I see wow cosmology like this

Law: Light, Death, Order
Chaos: Void, Fel, Life
Neutral: Reality

[AngerFork]

I hope they announce the time of the announcement soon it is a bit over a week away.

I also hope they stream it on twitch or youtube instead of dropping it on youtube and having to spam refresh at the hour if you were eager to see it. (referring to 9.2 announcement)

Same. The live streams are much more exciting & feel proper for an announcement like this. The 9.2 ZM reveal comparatively felt weak & like they were trying to hide it rather than really talk about it. I would've loved to have a real Q&A where they talked about why the water was actually unique rather than just watching every youtuber mock their quote as something Shamans do already.

I'm also hoping for a decently long presentation, I'd love to see it go for an hour & really go in some sort of depth for everything rather than just a 10 minute brush over without more context.

[Chickat]

I bet both my nuts that Covenant ARs will be announced as a pre-order bonus for 10.0

Can you honey roast them first?

[enak101]

There could be a quest about us using it to undo some of the damage that was done by the Forge of Souls, similar to how we drained Artifact Weapons in Silithus.

Yeah, I'd imagine it would be something like that. Involving either the forge of souls set up and repairing it or something or just the general damage the Jailer did to azeroth in the encounter causing enough issues with the heart, like he severed the connection to our amulets lol, dunno but does still technically need to be dealt with.