Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Niwes]

This is why calling extra attention to it is kind of a dick move. I'm sure they saw the picture but we're pseudo-doxxing. It tells us nothing more about the actual expansion.

Granted, the work station may not belong to the same person taking the picture.

wanna mark explicitly 2 things here:

1)
the last statement of above post. no one is that silly. it could even be a cleaning worker, taking the photo.

2)
its imo NOT the Seneca american native tribe logo (see above).

[TomatoBisque]

And then Dilbert's creator turned out to be gross and actively ignores most of the conclusions drawn from the satire in his own work. It's like the people who bitched about Rage Against the Machine being too political.

and then Tom Morello went on to become a Crypto/NFT guy

don't have heroes

[Niwes]

I found it, it's a brand of tobacco:



https://www.google.com/search?q=seneca+tobacco&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwj6p8bajY33AhXr6-AKHQS_Aw4Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=seneca+tobacco&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIECAAQEzoFCAAQgAQ6BAgAEB46CAgAEAgQHhATUKEJWI AQYIgSaABwAHgAgAFBiAHlA5IBATi YAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=JbJUYrqBMuvXgweE_o5w&bih=995&biw=1566&clien t=firefox-b-d#imgrc=lAF6JFnzOdmPDM

this shall be above logo?

https://www.google.com/search?q=sene...nt=firefox-b-d

not really sure..

edit:

if i closely compare both, its a good point. but to me they not 100% match, when watching at it closely.

edit2:

yeah, but they are VERY close.

watch: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x86okqc

have a look at 18:45-18:55

[Kohtra]

Why I don't buy the "Blizzard intentionally leaked this" theory: I can't figure out any benefit to Blizzard that couldn't have been accomplished with a teaser of some kind. Create a fake leak to throw us off? That just pisses people off and leaves us disappointed when we don't get what we were expecting. If it really is Dragonflight then the hype would build much more if they released some sort of teaser through normal channels.

[Skildar]

"barf"

Are you a fifth grader topkek



insert crying mask wojak



"If I say "triggered" and shift the burden of argumentation to the other guy, I don't have to defend my degeneracy!"

you seriously banned Le conceptuel for this? Let's not make it a long one then

[Niwes]

ok, since we now know, we are searching for a cigar smoker, which designers at Blizz are cigar smokers ?

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I found it, it's a brand of tobacco:



https://www.google.com/search?q=seneca+tobacco&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwj6p8bajY33AhXr6-AKHQS_Aw4Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=seneca+tobacco&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIECAAQEzoFCAAQgAQ6BAgAEB46CAgAEAgQHhATUKEJWI AQYIgSaABwAHgAgAFBiAHlA5IBATiYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=JbJUYrqBMuvXgw eE_o5w&bih=995&biw=1566&client=firefox-b-d#imgrc=lAF6JFnzOdmPDM

turned the picture and compared it.

you are right. its a brochure of Seneca Tobaco.

great work, good nose!

[cocomen2]

But lets cover Dragon belly button, and everyone would forget about ...that poor woman irl.

[pacotaco]

this shall be above logo?

https://www.google.com/search?q=sene...nt=firefox-b-d

not really sure..

edit:

if i closely compare both, its a good point. but to me they not 100% match, when watching at it closely.

edit2:

yeah, but they are VERY close.

watch: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x86okqc

have a look at 18:45-18:55

I'm terrible at photoshop, but...

[Syegfryed]

They basically are though? This is genuinely just arguing semantics. It's all the same universe, and the universe has a canon, a canon which they retcon and edit to an even larger degree than warcraft writers do, because they don't just change how events played out or who is responsible for them (they also do this) they change the fundamental way that magic and forces act, what entire cultures are about, what sorts of things a given species of monster can do, history itself, etc.

nope, different ediitions are basically different games, they halso have different settings all together, so its not the same thing compared to warcraft.

Lawful Neutral is neutral on the moral axis, i.e. it is neither Good nor Evil. The same way a Neutral Good character is neither Lawful nor Chaotic.

It doesn't mean what you say here at all.

then why the titans cannot be lawful neutral? it toally mean what i said

A law doesn't have to be explicitly stated, either. There's plenty of "unwritten rules". The Titans very clearly expect things to go a specific course and will resort to extreme measures when it doesn't, with it having been explicitly stated that they're perfectly willing to wipe out and rebuild planets to achieve this. That's not Neutral behaviour.

It is a neutral behaviour in their view, among the citizens? nope, thats why alignment is not universal

Also, as far as the Void is concerned, every path is true. They also explicitly have the ability to see the future, though this is of questionable use as they see all potential futures so for the most part it's just an incomprehensible jumble.

Your view is already incorrect based on the information we have now.

Yes, the void every path can be a truth, they have the ability to see the future, you can't see the future in a truly chaotic force, chaos is unpredictable.

[Niwes]

https://www.facebook.com/SenecaTobac...92210254184185

there it is. look at the table.

(the hell… i don’t get how to insert imgur shared photos here. dafuq)

[delphiskye]

hey what do you guys think about the lore books saying light was the first universe then it cracked allowing nether universe to form and that planets have alignments to either one

[Niwes]

I'm terrible at photoshop, but...

yep, here it is:

https://www.facebook.com/SenecaTobac...92210254184185

its a product brochure of Seneca Tobacco (zoom at the table).

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ok, we now know the designer likes coffee and cigarettes (or cigars, or…). now lets take a close look at all designers of Blizz (lol, we can’t). if we could get 100% proof, that none of the wow team designers smokes, we can 100% proof its fake.

[Vakir]

and then Tom Morello went on to become a Crypto/NFT guy

don't have heroes

Oh, I'm not gonna elevate him or anything. It's just hilarious how many people don't understand the intent of the thing they consume.

It wasn't even a Death of the Author thing - it was just them being stupid.

[Syegfryed]

I found it, it's a brand of tobacco:

Thats some good deduction, i remember going for a ton of different logos in the internet, including this one, but never made the association, well done

People at blizzard can actually use this to track who did the leak, if it ends up real

[Skildar]

He got banned because the black versus white debate regarding erasing white npcs and replacing them with black ones

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this is quite the horrible painting... hard to accept that we still have people that like to believe that some cultures and people are beneath their own and harder to accept that this used to be the norm for many people.

Anyway I must have missed conceptuel's racist comment

[huth]

then why the titans cannot be lawful neutral? it toally mean what i said

Now you're just contradicting yourself. You said they aren't lawful.

Yes, the void every path can be a truth, they have the ability to see the future, you can't see the future in a truly chaotic force, chaos is unpredictable.

Not "can be". Is. They can see the future, but they cannot predict which one will happen because from their point of view every one will happen.

Also, Chaos isn't necessarily unpredictable. A chaotic being doesn't act randomly. They just don't consider rules to be binding.

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ok, we now know the designer likes coffee and cigarettes (or cigars, or…). now lets take a close look at all designers of Blizz (lol, we can’t). if we could get 100% proof, that none of the wow team designers smokes, we can 100% proof its fake.

Yeah, i'm not seeing this as a meaningfull avenue.

[Syegfryed]

Now you're just contradicting yourself. You said they aren't lawful.

Nope, i said arcane, the force, would be considered a force of neutrality, Titans/pantheon would be lawful neutral

Not "can be". Is. They can see the future, but they cannot predict which one will happen because from their point of view every one will happen.

Which already goes away from the idea of being chaos

Also, Chaos isn't necessarily unpredictable. A chaotic being doesn't act randomly. They just don't consider rules to be binding.

i said is unpredictable, not acting random, meaning, you would not be able to see the future.

[huth]

The problem is today white Males getting discriminated all the time.

We see the start of genocide toward:

White Males

I suggest you read a few history books. Equality is not discrimination.

[JDBlou]

I suggest you read a few history books. Equality is not discrimination.

Don't engage, it's a burner account created to stoke racial rhetoric and conflict.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

Don't engage, it's a burner account created to stoke racial rhetoric and conflict.

Probably someone who was just recently banned too.

Don't engage.